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Large Hadron Collider

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-27 20:34

Now I'm no expert, but first the nerds built a fucking huge machine, right? I mean FUCKing huge.
Then they hook it up to the internet with poor security, for all the hackers and terrorists to tamper with. "Here's your very own city-spanning toy that deals in processes not unsimilar to detonating an H-bomb. Enjoy."
Then among the very first things they wanted to study, is how big bang occured.
Now hold the fuck up.
How the fuck do you go about studying how big bang occured without any proof or results? What are the results? A big bang. Not a contained big bang, because there ain't such a thing as a contained creation of a universe. The only possible result that would count as a success is an actual big bang, meaning bye-bye universe.

...so why are we pissing about with eachothers countries, politics, races and such shit, when we should be focusing on stopping the nerds from deliberately destroying the universe?

Name: RedCream 2008-09-28 0:59

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Doesn't matter.  If these events produced a planet-gobblin' black hole, it would be well able to gobble the remnants of a supernova (notably, the neutron star in the center of the debris cloud).  We just don't see that sort of trend in the catalog of such objects.

The point is that these events are so vanishingly rare and of such infinitesimal effect, that it's perfectly safe to conduct such experiments on Earth.  The point is that there just isn't enough MASS involved in these experiments to make a black hole with enough of a maw and lifespan to actually pose a threat to the planet.  The Collider in question commonly has about a billionth of a gram of mass coursing along the rings.  That's not enough to make ANY black hole of the required size and duration to pose a threat.

And the esoteric matter like "strangelets" wouldn't be in any sort of environment to start converting other matter into itself.  Strangelets require neutron-star pressures in order to persist.

We'd also have to propose that serious scientists don't expect such experiments to have any effect worth worrying about.  After all, they live on the same planet.  If they truly thought there was a risk of letting a matter-eater loose, they'd just be killing themselves.  Hence they wouldn't do it.

Yes, yes, we hear some claptrap about the nuclear tests in the early 1940s, and how it was proposed that the atmosphere could be "set on fire".  Rational minds knew full well that there was no chance of that.  Nuclear reactions just don't have that sort of potency; the atmosphere just isn't structured for propagating a wavefront from an ignition point; and finally, the planet has been subject to cosmic rays, asteroidal impacts, and extreme volcanism.  Obviously, the atmosphere isn't fire-able ... because if it ever was, it would be set aflame in short order from some natural event.

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