always wondered, what language do you multi lingual people think is the most efficient in speech or written?
excluding english
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Anonymous2006-06-12 8:46
Ruby. And if anyone says Java I'll cut your throat!!!
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Anonymous2006-06-12 10:00
not programming languages
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Anonymous2006-06-12 11:36
wapanese ^___________^;;
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Anonymous2006-06-12 11:40
spanish and latin maybe?
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Anonymous2006-06-12 11:55
Supposedly it's Esperanto.
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Anonymous2006-06-12 12:56
interesting
it probably depends on what your native language is? obviously english is more efficient to me
so spanish/latin/esperanto is either the most logical? clear? to the point? when you speak or write it?
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Anonymous2006-06-12 13:00
Oh, if you mean to learn... I wouldn't learn Esperanto. That's more a hobby than a language. I dunno, I guess Spanish? German is lexically closer to English than any other language, so maybe German.
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Anonymous2006-06-12 13:08
>>8 i wasn't thinking of learning but that's a good idea.
i'm just always curious about different languages: what language do you think in? how easy is it to convey points? (this post) there's also the question of literal translations which i don't understand
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Anonymous2006-06-12 13:29
>>9
Oh- well, I think in English. I speak English natively. I know Chinese, Japanese, and German, though. Any language is easy if you're willing to invest the time.
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Anonymous2006-06-12 13:39
>>6
Esperanto is old, several better languages have been created since then.
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Anonymous2006-06-12 13:49
>>11
Oh really? I didn't know that. What are they called? I'm curious.
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Anonymous2006-06-12 16:23
>>10 i was interested with french for a while but the change of teachers completely put me off with a different teaching style.
thanks for your replies.
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Anonymous2006-06-12 16:56
>>13
No problem. I would think French would also be pretty easy to learn for a native English speaker- Quite a bit of English originates from French.
>>1
French. Ridiculously limited vocabulary, and strict
composition in speech--all regulated by the country's
Academy. If you don't speak right, you'll be considered
a backwards hick--or worse, an Amerikkkan!
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Anonymous2006-06-12 23:03
Lojban
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Anonymous2006-06-13 1:10
J'ADORE LE FRANCAIS
at least it's kind of conventional with conjugations. english isn't so structured it seems, which is all right for me because i go by intuition, but if i were a martian i'd probably learn french instead of english
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Anonymous2006-06-13 11:07
Why are people talking about which language is the easiest to learn in a thread about the most efficient language?
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Anonymous2006-06-13 13:05
>>19
I dunno, lol. There is no "most efficient" language, because if it's still around today, it obviously works for the people who speak it. If you mean efficiency to learn, or efficient in the sense a lot of people speak it, then it would vary.
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Anonymous2006-06-13 17:45
English is basically a dialect of French, with more words and an anglo-saxon touch.
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Anonymous2006-06-13 18:37
>>21
I hope you're kidding. English comes from the Germanic family, French comes from the Romantic family. They have little to do with each other, besides some shared words.
I suggest you catch up on the history of England. Remember when the French invaded England? English is a combination of French and the old Anglo-Saxon language. French was spoken by the Royal Court for year until they began speaking English because it became an acceptable language.
Shit, I'm not even European and I know this shit.
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Anonymous2006-06-13 21:23
Sign Language?
But thats neither spoken nor written.
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Anonymous2006-06-13 21:39
>>23
Yes, dumb-fuck, but English is still classified as a Germanic language.
/r/ u lern MOAR etmology, amirite?
>>21 >>22 >>23
guyz, english is a french and german hybrid. end of argument.
so how do you mean efficient? able to express the most in the least words/fastest? that would probably be chinese. or with the least number of phonemes? that might be japanese or hawaiian. or with the least amount of grammatical 'decoration'? that might be just the casual/slang of any language. or do you just mean most consystent? that would probably be a conlang like loglan or lojban.
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Anonymous2006-06-13 23:27
>>23
Yeah, I remember it. I was fucking there. Fuckwit. Everyone who could remember it has been dead for centuries.
And by your fucking retard logic, I could say English is an Anglo-Saxon/Chinese hybrid, because ketchup comes from Chinese.
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Anonymous2006-06-14 0:36
english is an asian language. no, really.
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Anonymous2006-06-14 1:17
>>27
Wow, you fucking fail hardcore. The logic of historians everywhere, not just mine, say: France invaded England, defeated the Anglo-Saxons (which spoke germanic language), William the Conqueror proceeded to turn everything into french so everyone who was anyone spoke french. While everyone was speaking french the commonfolk would still speak their old anglo-saxon language and eventually they put anglo-saxon (germanic) language right into french and came up with ENGLISH.
Stop trying to make retarded ass analogies, I'm backing up my shit, you're doing nothing but speak of KETCHUP and CHINKS!
>>29
You said "basically a dialect of French" which is fucking wrong. 28% of English vocabulary comes from French, but 28% also comes from Latin, and 25% comes from Germanic. So why isn't English a dialect of Latin or German?
Fucking failure.
And it is classified as a Germanic language. You can throw as much history as you want at it, it's still etymologically a fucking Germanic language.
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Anonymous2006-06-14 18:27 (sage)
>>31
Cite your sources whenever you give out percentagse, you moron, then come tell me what is or what isn't. Your argument is void until you cite numbers.
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Anonymous2006-06-14 19:07 (sage)
>>32
So I have to cite resources on common knowledge, but you don't? Fuck you, you cunt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
And if you read this, you twat: http://www.m-w.com/help/faq/history.htm
you'll realize English was an established language before it had French influences.
And if I haven't said it before, you're the worst troll in history.
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Anonymous2006-06-15 7:35 (sage)
English Language.....Serious Business
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Anonymous2006-06-15 23:31
English is not efficient... so why are we discussing it?
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Anonymous2006-06-17 13:25
>>35
english is efficient in that its vocabulary often uses many less syllables than other languages. something like half of english text is composed of one syllables words. compare this to any romance language.
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Anonymous2006-06-17 15:00
The efficent language I know is made of ideograms(kanji) and phonograms(kana). Hard to learn, though.
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Anonymous2006-06-17 16:18
The most efficient language I know of is made of Chinese characters. Hard to learn, though.
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Anonymous2006-06-17 17:16
Italian, hard to learn, but very accurate
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Anonymous2006-06-17 17:49
wow, >>33 and >>32 are getting so worked up over a subject that noone really gives a shit about :/