Kbuntu vs Ubuntu

Can an experienced anon tell me their thoughts on Kbuntu vs Ubuntu please.

They both suck, get yourself a real UNIX^®.

The problem with Kubuntu vs Ubuntu vs Xubuntu is that, as you know already, the only difference is the desktop environment each comes with (all allow installing each other's), and what exactly is a desktop environment is something you'll only understand after trying a few for a while. Pick either Gnome or KDE now without much thinking - look at a few screenshots if you will - and later on you can try the other one and really decide.

Also when you have picked your favorite don't forget to flame the shit out of the other one, it's our most precious tradition.

TL;DR it won't make a difference until you know what you're doing.

Kubuntu is basically like taking a good OS, and then fucking it up with Windows-esque shit.

Gnome for life, dawg.  KDE is wannabe Windows, but worse.

Their both shit!
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not someone elses

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>>5 CFLAGS kickin' in yo

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heh, well they are both the same - just diffrent desktop enviroments & a few different programs.

>>1
What >>3 said.  Especially:
>it won't make a difference until you know what you're doing.

To which I would add: "And once you know what you're doing, the difference won't matter."

People treat it like a huge, life-alter decision, but the irony is that, by the time you are moderately adept at using *nix, you will learn to HATE BOTH KDE AND GNOME.  Desktop environments exist to hold your hand.  That's fine for what it's worth, but once you learn to fend for yourself, they are big, bloated monsters that just get in your way.  Eventually you will probably find yourself looking for something lighter-weight.

So just pick one based on what catches your eye in screenshots, and use it until you tire of it, then find something else.

>>11
Just curious, what WM and utils do you use, or do you even use X?

kubuntu looks moar like windows

Speaking as a noob, KDE looks loads better than GNOME.  GNOME looks like it's stuck in the 90s.

wouldnt go for Kubuntu, has a fair few problems from when i had a muck around with it, just wasnt as stable as ubuntu for some reason.

ubuntu

>>12
I've mostly used Enlightenment in the past, and am presently learning fvwm (which is incredibly featureful, but all the options are set in config scripts - there are *no* GUI menus).  Fluxbox and Openbox are pretty popular, but I don't have much experience with them.

As for utilities, I'm a minimalist.  I still use tin for USENET, for instance.  Mail has been an ongoing issue of finding a program I'm really happy with: elm, PINE, etc., are dated, and I don't particularly like Thunderbird. I've been meaning to try out a little-known mailer called mahogany.  There are lots of options out there if you look, though - there are even some lightweight graphical file managers if you don't like Midnight Commander.  Also, remember that just because one doesn't run GNOME or KDE doesn't mean one can't install the associated libraries so that GTK- and Qt-based programs will work.  There are relatively few such programs that depend on GNOME or KDE actually running (and most of what DOES is the bloated stuff - like Evolution, for instance - that I was trying to get away from anyway).

>>17
Have you tried mutt, that along with some procmail filters works pretty well.

>>18
I haven't used mutt, though I know of it.  It doesn't seem to offer *that* much that elm ME+ and PINE don't.  Also, it's nice to have a GUI client.  Although I don't *send* HTML mail, I *get* a fair amount of it (because some people insist on sending it), and I find it a hassle with CLI clients.  Lastly, though this is a somewhat silly, personal preference and nothing more, I don't like the fact that mutt breaks the naming convention for *nix e-mail MUAs.

>>19
When you mention PINE, are you also including ALPINE as well?

There the same damn thing, fags.

1. Install Ubuntu
2. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

You know have it all

thank me later.

>>20
Yeah, though I haven't used Alpine (my last experience with PINE was in college, and that was before Alpine came along).

ubuntu..

>>21
KDE sucks

X sucks

fuck you and your xservers, command line for the win

I prefer Gubuntu.

KDE sucks, Gnome is better

Gnome sucks, KDE is better

you suck!