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NigGaStoleMyMac

Name: Pink Jumpsuit Guy 2007-04-06 15:43 ID:UlzbkifG

8:15 PM

John's Undercover-enabled MacBook Pro was stolen at his golf club, just a few miles from where he lives, somewhere in North Carolina, USA.

http://www.orbicule.com/undercover/recovery.html

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-06 15:49 ID:zxmLNnCP

but did he enjoy spending $5000 anyway ?

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-06 15:49 ID:cwWBh9Qc

Moreover, the iSight pictures are always a great incentive for the police to give the case a higher priority.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-06 18:25 ID:dISRtoqd

>>1
Is this an April Fools, or this is for real? I really can't tell.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-06 20:54 ID:i3Z6Im4f

>>4
Real, it's been around for a while. It's one of the only security apps for the Mac that isn't a retarded "LOOK I CAN MAKE A SIREN SOUND PLAY IF THE MAC IS NUDGED!!!!!" gimmick, and could probably work quite well.

Lol at black guy, however.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-06 22:39 ID:uxmdpu/+

>>5
Notice that they're getting screenshots of his desktop and any open applications. Also, they can track the location of the toy by IP. That's quite an invasion of privacy. It's nice to know that at a centralized location, someone can look at you through your computer, without your permission, and see what you're doing, again, without your permission.

No thanks. I think I'll just buy a computer that won't set me back $5000 every time I have to replace it when it gets stolen. Or just not leave it where the greedy hands of niggers can reach it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-07 1:58 ID:mnxczC+8

>>6
Paranoid freak. You realise OS X is a closed source OS, right? For all you know it might be sending every keystroke you ever typed to Apple each time you click "Software Update".

There would be a huge scandal if this software shared any significant information with the developer if it was not activated as "stolen". There isn't a huge scandal yet - if you're so sure there's a group of shady men in a dark room giggling at the 4chan threads you click on and stealing your CP, why not run a packet sniffer on the app and sue for millions?

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-07 3:17 ID:Rh5sLikD

>>5
He just HAD to be a nigger, ha ha ha. Buy your new MacBook Pro, only $4000! One minute warranty. Made in China. Hand-stolen in America by a nigger.

>>6
In a world with niggers, you have to sacrifice a bit of privacy in favour of security, because you WILL get stolen from.

Also,
>>1
The nigger deleted his data. While the security company managed to undelete it, what if they can't? To me, the data I have is far more valuable than the hardware, even if the hardware is an overpriced piece of junk such as Apple's iLifestyle iProducts.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-07 3:41 ID:3YnyyWcd

>>7
That's why I don't use Apple's products. And it's not paranoia: it's me valuing my privacy.

It's funny, if some anonymous person on the internet takes screenshots of you and your open programs, finds out your location via your IP, it's called "spyware". But if Apple does it, it's "security".

>>8
That's security for retards (Mac users). Real security is not putting your toys where nigger hands can grab them. Also, I've never been stolen from. Probably because I'm not a retarded Mac user.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-07 10:05 ID:mnxczC+8

>>8
The MacBook Pro sells for $2000 ($1800 edu) with a one year warranty. Also, you seem to be implying that this software makes it "okay" for the user to allow their laptop to be stolen, when this is not the case. The software is to help recover the computer if it is missing, though it appears the developer helps you figure out how to recover deleted info if you're a newbie.

>>9
You may not have seen my point. Do you completely avoid all closed source software on your machine, then? You know, Nvidia might be stealing your credit card info with those drivers as you read this text..

If you really honestly run Debian or something with no closed source anything, though, then I have nothing more to say to you, hippie freak.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-07 10:34 ID:3YnyyWcd

>>10
I did see your point, but I think you missed mine. I'm pointing out the obvious privacy implications of deliberately running software that allows people you don't even know to look into your computer and see what you're doing. OH EXPLOITABLE.

I hate to make an analogy to George Orwell's 1984 as it is somewhat like creating a Godwin's Law-esque situation, but the whole idea reminds me of the telescreens.

Please don't think that I'm implying that Apple is spying on people through their webcams. I'm just saying the opportunity is there. Also, it's kind of available for someone on the internet to get access to that. People keep saying security, and I keep seeing security vulnerability.

And if you say that will never happen, you have not been around software long enough.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-07 21:15 ID:mnxczC+8

>>11
Well, let's clarify that this has nothing to do with Apple - it's a third party developer. Out of the box OS X has no open services that anyone can access - not VNC, not SSH, not even file shares.

My point is that your security paranoia could apply to absolutely any closed source program as you can't really tell if it has a backdoor inside it, and that it is better to chill out and stop thinking the world is out to get your CP as it's impossible to avoid closed source software if you don't want a shitty experience operating your computer.

Undercover's FAQ has an answer about privacy: "Undercover won't transmit any information from your Mac to our servers if the Mac it is running on has not been stolen. The only thing Undercover will do is to check from time to time whether it's in the database of stolen Macs. If it is not, no data will be transfered."

The fact that they say this explicitly means that it is approximately as likely as your copy of Photoshop uploading your work to Adobe in the background - it says it won't do it, it probably doesn't do it and there would be a huge scandal if anyone ever noticed it doing it.

Don't you think the idea has some merit? I've heard of unixfags writing cron scripts that poll their home web server and initiate a vnc daemon when retrieving a certain byte value while using mplayer to sound an alarm and disabling the sleep functionality via acpi and.. blah blah blah. But effectively, this problem cannot be solved for newbies without these guys offering their servers to poll to, and this software does a great job of it. Did you read how it simulates system failure, or that you can get the computer to loudly read a custom message promising a reward for who returns it (covered by the developer) or simply that you get a refund on the software if the laptop is never recovered?

Name: Steve Jobs 2007-04-07 21:17 ID:IcS+iosH

This story is about a third party app.
Software update doesn't send all your keystrokes to Apple because you can analyze the data that is sent to Apple, for example by setting a proxy between your mac and me. Some people actually do that and would report if that kind of thing happened.

Oh, and just one more thing: $5000.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-08 4:38 ID:pEr1f1Ag

it's impossible to avoid closed source software if you don't want a shitty experience operating your computer.

This is completely false.  This is only true if you invest $0 (or any minimal amount) to obtain any form of software.  If you invest some money into sponsoring the development of software applications, the programs that you sponsor will function exactly as you have specified.  The only problem is the amount of money you'll need to invest to get everything the way you want it to be. The reason why this may be more expensive is because everyone else invests their money into closed source programs rather than open source programs.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-08 12:43 ID:GUItnpIV

>>14
Whatever, hippieconomist. Go back to designing pointless Beryl plugins and shit.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-08 18:26 ID:pEr1f1Ag

>>15
what does that mean?

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-08 19:42 ID:sbmB0NVl

Anyways, he was a nigger. And a macfag. A nigger macfag, awesome combo. Nigga stole my $5000 Mac.

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