Animation Appreciation Thread #14

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>>39
lol. I guess Yokoyama still longs for the kind of projects he used to work on with those people, even if he's now the director for a series like Photo Kano...

Anno dei

The discontinuous or tuna.

>>39
>>37
Ha ha wow.
I feel like I'me being trolled.

Being Yokoyama is suffering

>>37
>>39
I can't believe this shit....

>>44,46
You guys need to optimize!

Awesome choreography
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20579595

>>48
Q is beaten , so awesome animation and all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aqZQmXSNkA&hd=1

>>48
Mitsuo Iso, eat your heart out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7aN30-umH4E

Nana

>>48
Amazing, even Yutaka Nakamura can't pull that off.

>>52
This one is pretty good

>>48

AAAAAWWW MY SAKUGA BRAIN IS ALL FUCKED UP!!
Give me something to clean this up!!

>>55
here take this
http://youtu.be/2g8t40gxJ88

>>56
thanks my inner sakuga acknowledging self.

VIVA LA YUTAPON

I think finally animators are globally appreciating the sakuga animation style.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f85e9b70e234a571dee01cfea4b69ad9/tumblr_mlho4yuqe61qdwchqo1_500.gif

we had those two short films Kairos and Basilisk, now let it get started.
Everyone is animating with sakuga timing.

it all started with Anipages, right?
First non-japanese sakuga related place on the internet.

sakuga timing

Really? It'd be nice if you concretely define the qualities of the "sakuga" style of animation.

You're talking about nothing otherwise.

I don't understand why some people are disappointed by the rotoscoped piano scene.

I think there is one exception in rotoscoping, wich is scenes of people playing music instruments.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/d1da0c5350e6bb6b5d4cda821032e0e2/tumblr_mlu83rlI951qavd02o5_500.gif

If you want to animate people playing piano, you have to be able to play the piano and learning piano can't be done on the tight production schedule of an anime.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/5ed64e6127675bcf2185fd8d2a62bce2/tumblr_mlu83rlI951qavd02o2_500.gif

>>58
Is there anything particularly japanese about that animation style?

>>61
That's pretty cool. Is that animated on 1s?

>>61
People want to be disappointed in Evangelion

You don't get the fuckin point yet ????????

Come ON !!!

>>60

It's difficut to explain sakuga style timing in a few sentences,
but I will try to make it short.

First the casual timing, (the one we all know from disney and everywhere)
this is just an example, ok?
animating in 2s straight up, 2s on fast movements, 2s on heavy movements, 2s slow movements, 2s on everything. Just an example, it can vary but usually the timing is always very constant.

The sakuga (japanese) way of timing has a big difference, the reason why its so difference is because of the low budget and tigh schedules.
Animators there had to find new way to become faster, ways that would still show quality.
So people like Iso and Yutaka Nakamura came.

What did they do? Keep your focus on the motion, the momentum of the motion the impact, the weight, not on the fluidity.

So what they did was,
super fast moves in 1s,
casual moves a combination of 2s and 3s,
slow moves in 3s.

But it's not that simple,
Iso and Yutapon also use 3s with a combination of 1s and 2s on very fast moves.
So how does that work, how can an animation with a 3s timing not look choppy on Isos work.
The answer to that is playing the timing in the right place at the right time at the right spacing, and this is very difficult to achieve and I can't explain that to you because I'm not an Iso.

>>58
>the sakuga animation style.
>Everyone is animating with sakuga timing.

There's no such thing you fucking moron.

The nearest meaning for Sakuga is just "good animation" nothing more, nothing less.

You can have "realistic sakuga" = have good realistic animation
"That sakuga mad had good Kanada timing" = That animation video reel had good Kanada timing

The word "sakuga" is not a genre, style or timing art form. Nobody in the animation industry says "Oh this is such a sakuga scene" because to them sakuga just means 'animation' it's only (western) nerds who have elevated the word 'sakuga' to some sacred word with holy meaning, it's one of the reasons the title of this thread was changed because people say stupid shit regarding the word sakuga.

>>65
NO.
You are 100% wrong on everything.
shut the fuck up.

>>65
also I'm from russia, pardon my english.

>>67
wow thank you, you must be a really smart animator then.
Explain me the right thing please if you think I'm wrong.

>>69
What you talked about was just the differences in animation timing.
It's nothing unique to "sakuga" see also this >>66
Sakuga is not or style or a different timing rate (Different to what? Disney? Why is Disney the basis for this comparison?)

Sakuga is not a style
Typo

Kyoani announcement happening real soon

Time for a Kadokawa I.P.?

>>66
that's just your opinion bro.

>>72
I want Swimming Anime for glorious water effect animation, unless it turns out like K-On and never actually Swim.

>>66
because people say stupid shit regarding the word sakuga.

Just like you do right now.

>>70
Why is Disney the basis for this comparison?

because japanese animation approach is different from disney animation approac?
What don't you understand in that context?

One minor hangup I have is with the term "sakuga". All it really means is animation, so I don't find it particularly useful, and I think it can be needlessly confusing and ghettoizes the subject, or sounds elitist, so I'd prefer to avoid it, but that's just me.
- Ben from Ani pages

KyoAni registered iwatobi-sc on March 29, 2013.
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Say, how long have Animation Do posted that swimming art on their website?

>>77
I have to agree with Ben. It is so hard to just say good animation?

>>71
Sakuga is not or style or a different timing rate

Sorry but I clearly disagree.
Yes, originally it is not a style, but it has developed into that and you opinion won't change my.

Why do people say ANIME to it, the word anime is just a short version of "animation".
Why do people say MANGA to it, it's just another word for "comics".

But people say Manga and Anime because it defines a genre for them too.
Saying "japanese animation style" is way too long, so they make it simple and say "anime".

Just like I do here with sakuga wich only means animation.

I'm too lazy and not butthurt like you, so instead of saying this is a japanese animation style, I say sakuga because its short and simple.