>>12
>there's an anime which forces them to come face to face with the fact that they are stupid.
How about coming face to face with the fact that you're watching childrens' shows and think they're really deep? Sounds rather dumb to me.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 9:54
>>12
Elitists are some of the biggest idiots around, especially the elitists within nerd communities.
"Heh, you actually play that Grand Theft Auto bullshit? I stick with quality games like the original Metroid and Adventure Island."
"You guys are watching dubbed Outlaw Star? On a R1 DVD?! LMAO! What a bunch of n00bs! I'm gonna go home and watch the uncensored subbed version that I stole off of the net on my new laptop."
Get your head out of your ass! Maybe if you dipshits actually gave the stuff a fair chance, and weren't so obsessed with being different, you'd actually know what you were talking about, and you might see why everybody likes it so much.
That being said, maybe elitists wasn't the best word to use on these guys... mindless trolls sounds about right.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 9:56
I am elite. My refined tastes are beyond understanding for the average anime fan.
>>14
To be blunt, I agree with alot of your post but I gave dubs a try. The 90's will forever scar me.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 10:26
>>17
Its not the 90s anymore. Every now and then you'll run into throw away dubs like Love Hina or Crest of the Stars, but for the most part, dubs have gotten much better. They almost always put a good amount of effort into the voice work and script writing these days, and it shows. Some modern dubs (i.e. Berserk, Yu Yu Hakusho) even go so far as to surpass the original Japanese track.
>>18
That's very debatable. I find most english va's make my ears bleed. There are a few dubs that are done suprisingly well but I don't feel like dropping $30 for the first DVD just to find out.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 12:24
>>20
Most people who prefer subbed don't even understand/speak Japanese to a degree that would allow them to ask somebody in Tokyo for directions. Yet they claim that they can accurately assess the quality of the Japanese language track in any anime.
>>24
I don't care what is said, I go by what I think sounds better. Japanese, that is. I can not explain why I prefer Japanese as I am a student of neither audio nor linguistics.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 21:14
>>21
I never said I spoke Japanese or testified to the quality of any fansub. I said that I prefered the Japanese voiceactors, not because they are speaking Japanese or because they are Japanese, but because I find their voices better fitted to most roles and rather soothing.
And I can understand a fansub just fine. The question is, can you read too?
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Anonymous2006-06-29 21:55 (sage)
>>21
So you need to be an expert in audio/linguistics to decide what you like? I'll be damned.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 23:04 (sage)
This thread if full of niggers.
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Anonymous2006-06-30 4:28
>>26
>but because I find their voices better fitted to most roles and rather soothing.
Weird, can you give me an example? I usually find the voices (especially of girls) equally high pitched and annoying in both audio tracks.
>>27
You need to understand the language obviously. I don't know what's so absurd about that.
>>29 You need to understand the language obviously. I don't know what's so absurd about that.
I can't see your reasoning behind that.
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Anonymous2006-06-30 7:08
>>31
Otherwise there would be no point in using spoken language at all. Everything would come with subtitles and actors would make calm or excited grunt noises, depending on the mood of their character.
>>44
This reminds me of those stupid arguements that I used to hear from those retards when my old school flipped out and forced me into a school for "emotionally disturbed kids".
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~*2006-07-02 22:33
WTF? Sometimes the English VAs are better than the Japanese. It all depends on wether or not the speaking sounds natural, which, yes, you can tell if the acting is natural or not even if you can't speak that language. O.o;
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Anonymous2006-07-03 4:20
>>51
NO ENGLISH IS AN INFERIOR LANGUAGE YOU ARE WRONG. JAPANESE IS SUPERIOR
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Anonymous2006-07-03 5:13
>>51
Uh, no you can't tell if it's natural or not because you haven't perfectly mastered Japanese for 300 years, sorry.
I'd prefer listening to the actual voice actress then hearing a totally different person talking in part of the character. Yeah. I have my sets of favourite seiyuus. So dub never and will never work for me. How strange to hear some cowboy slang in a japanese anime. Cheh. I'd prefer dubs from the start I watch anime. Cos I'm disgusted by the way the americans take the anime and turn it into their own. Cheh
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Anonymous2006-07-03 9:08
>>55
Guess what, the characters are all drawn and don't really exist. There are no actual or original voices for them.
#53
i'm getting sick of people like you, typical anime fans. When you're gonna call something shit, give good valid reasons, but all you do is say 'its fucking ridiculous!'...WHY is it you moron?
#50
i agree with ya, i really don like western dubss...BUT some dubbs are really good like the ones for FINAL FANTASY VII- ADVENT CHILDREN...bu ya, haruhi dubbs sucked
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Anonymous2008-06-20 23:17
a lot of the quality difference comes from the fact that the VAs are just paid more in japan, and the animation is fitted to their voice tracks. since the american market mentality for anime is mainly to get the popular stuff out quickly, less time/money is put into making a good dub.
also, most of you don't know japanese so you don't know that some of the original VA's actually sound bad/don't fit the character.
another part of the reason we're used to thinking the original is better is because only the better shows get rawed/subbed, while the majority of the shit anime are unknown.
#55
i disagree
the quality has nothing to do with money, its the way the japanese do things, they have thier own unique skills that they dont really share with the world hence having dubbed as a 'closed industry'...
most american dubbs suck because the american culture and the way of talking is not as enthusiasctic as the japanese
>>56 most american dubbs suck because the american culture and the way of talking is not as enthusiasctic as the japanese
That's bullshit. The difference is simply that in the American entertainment industry, the focus is more on live-action, leading to dubs having low budgets and therefore shitty voice-actors. There are quite a few good American dubs and actors capable of expressing emotion, just look at The Simpsons, or other big-budget dubs with actors like Patrick Stewart and whatnot. Not to mention all the live-action shows.
Also, I think that many Mexican and German dubs of anime are very good, sometimes even better than the Japanese versions.
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Anonymous2008-06-22 0:16
I agree on the German dubs. I've found many to be better if not equal to the Japanese voice cast. Ergo Proxy is a good example of quality English dubs.
>>57
not really, if u've watched a lot of pixar animated movies, u'll see that the actors's voice acting perfectly suits the roles and is very well done, but if u put it in japanese anime, MOST ofthe time, it wont be, because anime expresses much more realism and emotions than western animated/live action film. Japanese films and anime most of the time reflect upon japanese culture,they show intimacy through emotion and realistic acting, the west show it through mindless sex scenes....the japanese culture is diffrent than the west