Is it possible..

that time itself is slowing down or speeding up? Would this possible acceleration account for an extra dimension of time? Probably stupid, but I'd like to know how it would be wrong. The thing about the big bang => 98% of matter in a few minutes seems a little weird, and if time is changing, maybe that would account for it?

A variable speed of time would have NO impact on the equations that give us our timeline for the Big Bang Theory. There's nothing to "account for" except you not understanding the basic concepts at work here.

The Universe is a closed system. This means that everything is measured relative to itself. If it's time "flow" is variable, it would only matter to someone OUTSIDE of the Universe. To anyone inside that variable time "flow", Time would appear to be constant. Even if it stopped completely for a while on some sort of meta-timeline, we wouldn't even be PHYSICALLY ABLE to notice. It's like the pause button or a slow motion code in a video game: the in-game characters can't tell their timeline is being fucked with.

Now then, it's time to let you in on a secret: Time and Causality as we know them didn't even exist until AFTER the Big Bang had started. LOL WUT? Yeah. The Universe is a weird place, man. Read some books like "The Fabric of the Cosmos" for a good introduction to some of these concepts.

How would you test the proposition?  If it's not testable it's meaningless speculation.

>>2's wise beyond his years. Everything that >>2 speaks is exactly as I know it to be from my own perception for time only ceases for me from the time I fall asleep to the time I dream. The dream perceived takes place in the space of 15-20 minutes, scientists that've studied this phenomenon have stated, though to me perceiving the dream it appears as over hours. Thusly, when human external perception is cut off (sensory deprivation) the mind is the only sense of motion from one point to the next. This accounts for the differences in mechanical time perception via a watch or clock as opposed to perception of time without such mechanical clocks.
There are some people that would argue that "biological clocks" reveal an idea of interal perceptions of motion and "time" -which is the measurement of movement- through intervals of recurring events of biological functions that are performed around the same or similar times each day.
This wasn't reliable to some as choice, food intake variations, sleep and waking, habitual craving variations plays a part in differentiating periods of recurrance. For this reason an encompassing recurring events were used in the measurements and creation of mechanical time.
One question I have for those of you reading. What is encompassing our universe? Dimensions? Without perceiving this recurring event how can we really know? Thusly, wouldn't this make such unperceivable and immeasurable events much similar to religious faith and belief? What do you think about such statements?

Self-Awareness is a dangerous trait for a human to possess. Will you hide in the shadows such as the conformed have done in the past and the now? Will you stand? Will you rise? Will you stand as yourself and speak your own voice. Is your life worth the pennies you bring home to feed yourself just to go back and do the same? Does your pay go up with the price of food? And gas? And the price of bills? Taxes? Do they? What Will you do? What are you, to you?

1: So if I don't stop conforming to what I want to conform to and conform to what you want me to you will think I am a "conformist.
onoz ;-;
2: No I want to sit down.
3: I will stay seated thx.
4: I can do good impersonations but usually I use my own voice.
5: Yes, I don't want to go hungry and I know I must do my bit for the economy.
6,7, 8, 10: My salary is under 6 figures but I obtain a large amount of capital from my investments, of course most of it is tied up in stock but I know it will pay off eventually. The increase in my income exceeds the rate of inflation.
9: I take measures to evade tax where possible but tax goes up as my income increases, the proportion I pay generally decreases.
11: I will make a cup of tea next probably.
12: I am a sapient being and it seems I am of a species about 50000 generations fresh from evolving the ability to construct civilisation in a planet inhabitted by my contemporaries during a period in which our civilisation has for the most part avoided various perils and is rapidly developing it's science.

>>6
yet another layman wanna be. 'ts a shame, really.
The science of decadence is explained below, do you fit the bill?:

1. Those who conform in a way that is ignoring the self and minding others only. ie proposed self-lessness.
2. Are feeling a sense of loss, depression, sadness, suicidal thoughts and anxieties?
3. Are you unable to perceive certain events until much later on? ie time-lags?
4. Does everything around you seem to be slow as opposed to the world moving and changing too fast?
5. Do you experience periods of unexplainable or detoured grief, shock, denial, anger, disorganization, despair, and during quiet periods a sense of acceptance of circumstances?
6. Do you attempt to negotiate in most or all situations?
7. Do you have a sense that everyone around you is wrong and that you are the only right person alive?
8. Would you rather just sit around and do what you want as opposed to doing what would be in your best biological/mental/all-encompassing best interest?
9. Seeking answers where none seem to come?
10. Do you feel lonely?
11. Do you have a sense of shame at times?
12. Do you feel overwhelmed at times?
13. Do you feel as though you are constantly pushing away from people?
14. Are you tired, cranky, and get hungry at odd times of the day in this order?

Worry not. I'm working on the means and methods to move you all past this point in your lives; be you old or young, male or female. Your pets will feel better, and your family will feel better, but most importantly, you will feel much more alive, alert, aware much more like when you were a child. When I finish my research, it will be available on the internet for free with no charges whatsoever in any hidden fees or costs. This is my gift that I wish to give to those who believe they DON'T have any of these symptoms more so than those that can perceive that they do. Denial is a frightening thing, are you absolutely sure...? How often do you question yourself, are you really considering what you ask?

>>6, and as for you sir; I understand your point of view of misunderstanding. You consider me wrong from the get go, I see it in your post. You rebel against me, but have you asked yourself the question of what it is you are really rebelling against? Who is it you are denying? And who are you really angry at? You claim to know the meaning of conforming and think it a good thing or a bad thing, amirite? I see conforming (in the sense of giving up self, choice, and rational thinking to fit in) the worst form of self-disrespecting conformity whereas conformity (to reach peak self-understanding, awareness, choice, exploration, experience of the self, environment and people around you using communication and cooperation to better form the status of common individualalities) to be the highest form of self-respecting conformity known. This is backwards thinking to some. To some, it will be like walking backwards or turning around instead of facing the truth. But the fact may be, that you are already turned around, denying what you are being faced with, ignoring that which you know you must attend. And who is it that you are really ignorning? If you are thinking of something intangible, you aren't correct. If you think it may be a person that you are ignorning...you may be onto something...keep asking those questions, consider them before you deny them, recall past events to assess and evaluate them. Save the acceptance and denial until after all the evidence is in. Until then, shouldn't it remain questionable?

Oh yes, one more question to the list:

15. Do you in any way, shape, or form; blame others for your misdeeds, acts that cause shame later on, pass the buck when it comes to work or chore responsibilities, point the finger at others, alleviate yourself of guilt using 'escapist' methods?

I have noticed a directly linked correlation to the decadent self-disrespectful lazy depressed suicidal conformists that we have observed this past century. It is a funny thing when something so simple as a known human function is the cause of such a conundrum that is still under investigation. It seems we are all looking for the discovery and overlooking the obviously simple aspects altogether. I have noticed this simple thing that children do at a young age and develop through puberty and into adulthood. Have you noticed how children get angry and have seperation anxieties? How about all of these aspects from >>7, these aspects are all too similar to the stages of grief after bereavement of loss. The only differences that I see are those of scapegoating, but this is also explained later on in my notes being tied to escaping moments of pain. A truly remarkable discovery, or rather a simple recognition of a common human trait. How astonishing the human condition really is in all its glory.

>>7
1. Who cares who's a layman and who isn't? If some illiterate black guy from somewhere in Africa discovers the cure for cancer you'd just ignore it?
2. Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. Of course I'm going to feel and think these things at least once in my life.
3. Sometimes.
4. Now you're just whining.
5. nah
6. What's wrong with negotiating?
7. I'm not afraid to say I don't know if I don't know.
8. A mix.
9. I wouldn't be a good scientist otherwise.
10. Of course, I'm going to feel and think this at least once in my life.
11. Of course, I'm going to feel and think this at least once in my life.
12. Of course, I'm going to feel and think this at least once in my life.
13. No, not always.
14. Of course, I'm going to feel and think this at least once in my life.

No need for a lecture, you could have just asked me. I'm rebelling against faggotry which I determine as statements which jump the gun, skipping out on the logical steps which were needed to generate a valid argument. I use layman's terms only out of necessity since all I'm doing is looking at the missing logical steps and questioning what needs to be answerred.

Conforming can be good or bad, so it's not relevant. 50 years ago people conformed to arbitrary social norms out of fear, but that's not the case today. People who whine about conformism and feel the need to look non-conformist usually conform to a social clique like punk, emo or goth or whatever and lap up it's ideology without an individual thought. True non-conformists are simply apathetic, it's the geek who spends all his time in the library, never succumbs to peer pressure or keep up with the latest fashion. A true nihilist wouldn't care enough about nihilism to go around saying "HUUURRR IM A NIHILIST, IM SPESHAL".

>>9 you are, as I would put it, elloquent in the architecture of your statements and direct in your thoughts. Isn't it a strange coincidence that some of us feel the sense of loss even now, yet experience an inability to adequately explain or confront the event or loss that had occurred some years back due to alternate overwhelming events or distractions? I have only realized this withing myself, though as of now, I still am not fully sure how to adaquately deal with these issues of my past. I don't think I've adaquately adapted to the very human sense of grief. If I had to guess at it for the moment, I would say that as a child, I've denied it all along. And it's because of that that I've not moved much further in my life until now. But still, this sensation, how to adapt to the sense of grief without making it a habitual occurance with every situation? Truly puzzling questions. What do you have to say, >>9, anyone?

oh, and >>9... the definition to the word decadence:

–noun
1. the act or process of falling into an inferior condition or state; deterioration; decay: Some historians hold that the fall of Rome can be attributed to internal decadence. 
2. moral degeneration or decay; turpitude. 
3. unrestrained or excessive self-indulgence. 

Now apply that definition to all the aforementioned, are you over-indulgent in those areas? I don't require an answer, I'm just a /sci/posster posting a question. If the answer pertains to yourself or your mental fortitude, it's a question for you to ask yourself at your behest, but really, who am I to judge? Like I'm not just as vulnerable to what I state? Pff, how do you think I came up with the idea? I remember not being able to cope with the loss of my grandmother and father. I have some serious seperation anxieties and apprehention to changes in environment. It was my uncle that gave me the idea of loss and change being part of a human cycle of grief that I may be experiencing or will experience later on as a result of change. Perhaps for some (including myself) this change is so painful that grieving then coping just isn't a possibility. Denying and escaping the pain seems to be our coping mechanisms, perhaps. The evidence is still inconclusive without further testing, but I'm working on the research materials right now before I begin testing on my cousin. She has some of the similar aspects that I share with a healthy dose of asperger's syndrome. I'm hopeful that this idea will eventually lead into the right direction even if it isn't the precise or correct direction right now. Who knows?

As for perception of time, check these links out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhibition_Theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhibition_of_return
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion

These ought to keep some people busy. :D

Hmm, looks like someone else has the same ideas as I do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptual_control_theory

ooh, and this one too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habit_%28psychology%29

:P

>>2 Now then, it's time to let you in on a secret: Time and Causality as we know them didn't even exist until AFTER the Big Bang had started. LOL WUT? Yeah. The Universe is a weird place, man. Read some books like "The Fabric of the Cosmos" for a good introduction to some of these concepts.

Ooh, started out good, ended in a thump. There is currently no way to know what went on before the big bang, or if there ever was anything before the big bang. And you sound like a cunt.

>>15
FAIL

Big Bounce, Quantum Loop Gravity, etc.

MICHIO KAKU
PROBLEM SOLVED

What happens when you have a dildo that's too long and you shove it up some asshole till it's all the way in? What happens if it cums out the mouth? And if you are to get the ends to touch?
Is this the 'Big Bounce' and 'Quantum Loop Gravity' you were talking about, asshole?

Tadanobu Asano; Ichi the Killer
Problem solved

>>10
>>11
Again you have jumped from from an established fact "you are, as I would put it, elloquent in the architecture of your statements and direct in your thoughts" to "inability to adequately explain or confront the event or loss" without explaining how you got there. You're a loose cannon!

Yes I have dead relatives, problems and anxieties, everyone does. You might aswell say "You go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning. You must have a shit load of defense mechanisms!".

NE problem with that?

>>20
Ah, I see now. You expect us to gently insert your bullshit onto our tongues, swallow, and thank you for your kind-hearted generosities. Thanks, but no thanks. When it comes to living and life; the two are far and few between one another. Life is a simple state of potential as living is the state of kinesis (the action of motion). And what I mean from this, as you have so "elloquently" failed to state is what it means to you. Cause acting like a retard from a retard's POV is respect. Acting like a upstanding individual to a retard is the highest form of disrespect. And you sir, are disrespecting us with your intelligence, so GTFO. There, now we can get back to our poker game. Who's up...?

I think, that as we are in our own space and time, we all perceive    
time differently, therefore an increase or decrease in the relative speed of time, would therefore be unnoticable and immeasurable, so it becomes irrelavant as to whether time speeds up or slows down.

>>22
So how's middle school working out for you?

do ya'll need a lesson from Einstien?

lern2 relativity faggots

>>17
A highly recommended introduction to hyperspace, yes.

>>1
Ignoring all the other bullshit in this thread, consider the following.

If something is accelerating, it must have been moving. After all, acceleration is the derivative of velocity, a=dv/dt. Accordingly, If something is moving, it must be changing its position, since v=dx/dt.

But what does it mean to say that it is "changing"? To be more detailed, it is changing WITH RESPECT TO TIME. That's why those two "dt" terms appear in the denominator of both relationships. So if time is accelerating, we run into two problems. First, what exactly was changing in the first place? It can't be the position of time; time has no position. And second, with respect to what was it changing? Was time changing with respect to...time? If yes, that makes no sense whatsoever. If no, then it cannot be moving or accelerating at all.

A better way to think of it (if you must visualize it, usually a bad idea with this stuff) is like a graph, specifically a spacetime diagram. Time goes on one axis, and space on the other. What would it mean to say that the time axis is "accelerating"? How would you plot it? Would the graph look any different?

To say that time is accelerating has no physical meaning in our universe. Time is just a standard by which we measure things, like the axis of a graph.

god exists

>>27
NO U

It has been shown that the time constant is increasing exponentially as the universe ages. So to speak, one unit of time for us will be equivalent to about 0.99 units of time in about 1.5 million years. However, it is also believed that the relation to other constants are effected as well as to conserve the laws of physics.