REDCREAM ITS AFFRAID OF 4TRAN

he never debates with him and the two times he response to him was owned instantly

>>40
The most profound mental illness instead is where a national citizen REFUSES to address the weaknesses and faults of his own country.

You can play the card of your sick little Empire all you want, AmeriFag, but the USA is going down like a two-dollar whore and you are only helping the decay.  If I really wanted to help that trend, I'd say nothing and let you fuckers continue to sink the ship of state.

Now, isn't it time for you to jerk off to a pic of GWB?

Guys, I think we ought to be nice to RedFag.  I mean look at him!  He obviously has no life outside of this website.  I'd even say 4chan is the closest thing he has to a life.

C'mon!  Who's with me?

>>40
AssCream is an Uzbek schizophrenic?

It all fits.

>>42
I think LordRiordan is with you ... in fact, he's IN you, as his cock is ringstretching your anus.  You anons are just that way.

Correction RedCream... It is a different thing to hate America and yourself, such as you do, and to hate the people running it. The only reason America will go down the drain is because of pacifists like yourself.

The fact that you assume I'm some cock stroker for GWB shows your intense mental illness. No where did I say anything about any policy, merely that you hate America and yourself, and yet you are able to conclude that I'm some GWB lacky.

There's pointing at faults and then there is wishing for your country's end and hating your 'own people'. Unfortunately for you RedCream, your mental illness won't let you see that.

Have fun with your self-hatred.

>>45
Attacking the rest of the world is the cause of much of American problems.  There is a remarkable between being a pacifist and being a gun-sucking attack monster as is to evidently true in today's American leadership and military.

Submission to militant policies has killed the Republic and has installed a fucking Empire in its place.  The more you pretend that didn't happen, the more stupid you sound.  At least you have the courage to so wholly embrace such stupidity.  I'll at least credit you thusly.

P.S.  There is no difference between "the country" and "the people running it".  You're only showing your acceptance of class warfare, since you can accept the filthy things done by the nation by disclaiming connection to the people doing them.  do you really think the rest of the world is so stupid that they believe such an excuse as yours?

MEGALULZ.  LordRiordan tries to defend the Empire and ends up getting COMPLETELY PWNED!

>>47
>>46
YOU CANT AUTOPROCLAME OWNS

You haven't pwned anything.

You realize that we live in a republic and yet you treat it as if it is some pure democracy. People don't decide policy because that is the job of the politician. A boob like you must have missed this in your basic education.

Pwning someone doesn't mean spouting off the same old shit you say in every other single thread.

Nothing is killing the republic besides controlling voting districts. I'll give you that the United States has turned into an empire; however, it isn't a shallow war machine like you put it. The USA's policies are put into place by Republicrats to do what is in the USA's best interest (IE more control over it's people, less threat from crazy Iran, and more economic opportunity in the middle east and abroad). Because we are not a true democracy, this will always happen regardless of what people want. The war in Iraq won't stop happening for a long time, and it'll just be Iran after that.

There is nothing you can do or anyone else, so stop your bitching. It's not like the USA is attacking a peace loving culture anyways... Most of Islam is an anti-progressive virus anyways.

>>45
RedCream doesn't hate America; he hates America committing suicide.  His (and liberal) rhetoric is probably not phrased in the friendliest manner, but their point is correct.

>>46
It actually depends on context.  In this case, you're right.  However, when statistics come out saying "America is less intelligent than Europe" they are referring to the people as a whole.

>>49
Even president Eisenhower warned against the military industrial complex (and he was a general too).  I guess that wasn't good enough for you.

The "USA's best interest[s]" in the parentheses are only in the best interst of Republicans, not the country.  Moar control over people keeps Republicans in power, while the people lose their voting power.  Iran was never a major threat.  No military in the world even vaguely approaches the power of America.  The most Iran could do is pray that they don't get wiped out like Iraq.  They have no reason to attack prior to the Iraqi conquest.  Even if they tried fucking with the oil supplies, Saudi Arabia is still a major American ally.  Moar economic oppurtunity in the middle east, again benefits the republicans by giving their corporations moar $.

If they're an anti-progressive virus, that's their problem.

America currently leads the world in economics, /sci/, technology, and military by a tremendous margin.  No other country can cause its demise.  Like every other great empire, America will be the cause of its own downfall.  However, it is still growing, and thus will have many decades before whittling away.

>>50
thats why you always own
 /sci/, technology=japan?

>>51
They're an American colony.

>>50 in regards to >>45

Due to the way RedCream expresses himself would suggest that he hates America. There isn't only disagreement with non-liberal policy but a hatred for other opinions and all Americans including himself. In combination with the fact that every conversation he participates in comes back down to how much America fails, it would be easier to say that he has some deeper hatred.

America can do no right in his eyes. We would always be fucking someone over regardless of our actions, and it would be his job to point that out and bitch about how the war machine sucks.

Also, I find it intellectual dishonest that you claim this is a republican thing when this war is clearly perpetuated by both Democratic and Republican parties. If you have the capability to check any voting regarding the occupation of Iraq, you would see the constant agreements for more funding and more time being spent in there.

Everyone is interested in making money there. War is big business, good opportunity for entangling our society into other places, and ensures the lively hood of a stable world. It isn't pretty, but you are fooling yourself if you think this is a "republican" war machine.

At least you agree that the United States is all powerful. RedCream would rather see a pacifist socialist state that is lazy and unable to defend itself. Getting destroyed for the sake of not raising a finger would make him happy.

>>53
Consider if RedCream did the opposite: he only brags about how great America is.  What would that do, other than boosting the country's ego/morale?  If problems exist, and all he does is brag about how everything's perfect, then something bad's going to happen.  Nevertheless, it does seem that he is rather displeased with the status quo.

I did not intend to imply the lack of democratic involvement.  I only claimed that the republicans had more to gain.  Besides, it seems that they're colluding to a non zero degree anyway, so the democrats probably do have something to gain.  One reason for the lack of opposition to stop war funding/ pulling out sooner is attakcks of "unpatriotic".  Such attacks cripple one's attempt to gain reelection.  In addition, it's not clear at this point that suddenly stopping the war would be safe or desirable.

Only those who are capable of profiting from war are intersted in making money there.  "War... ensures the lively hood of a stable world"... a bit of Orwellian double speak there, isn't it?  War is by definition conflict, and thus instability.  Why would one want to entangle one's society into other places?  Isn't that just like holding a giant sign that says "please shoot me"?  Isn't that the #1 reason the Islamic world hates the US in the first place?

>>54

If RedCream were to do the exact opposite, he would be an AmeriFag or bootlicker; however, it is a different case when an individual constantly contorts a subject to how America sucks. Not to mention he is a socialist pacifist... which is completely unrealistic in application. His inability to apply his ideas to real word situations makes him a Down's Syndrome child.

Individuals yelling 'its unpatriotic' are the same types of individuals that scream war monger. The only difference being that one is on the opposite side of the political spectrum. The effect from both sides is rather minimal and the same.

Democrats are playing the 'we look like we are trying to get out, but most of us actually don't want to' card. This is usually done just to appease voters who side with democrats. This is very similar to politicians that bring up the draft and then shoot it down themselves.

In response to "why would one want to entangle one's society into other places?" Why would a government allow open borders and allow the very same thing to happen within the country. It's apart of the same sickness... However, when you are the aggressor and winner in the situation (which we are attempting with Iraq) you have potential for something like Japan (Which had succeeded through different circumstance)

4Tran, I will beat yo ass!

The elite three.

LordRiordan
4tran
and RedCream (Who doesn't rhyme =()

redcream eat america dick

sage goes in the fucking e-mail field.

This thread is the cancer that is killing /b/. I mean, /sci-math/.