If you believe in miracles, that must mean you beleive in a higher power. A higher power who is obviously helping some people through the workings of these miracles.
But this means that, since the higher power is able to help people, that he just lets hundreds of thousands of people die every year due to natural disasters, famine, war, disease, etc, just because, while favoring those who believe in miracles.
How do Christians and other religious people allow themselves to believe this? The idea that there is a god who readilly helps certain people, while letting thousands of innocents die is insane.
This must mean that followers of religion and believers in miracles are either too dumb to realize this, or that they just flat out do not care, which would probably send them to hell in their religion anyway.
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Anonymous2006-08-13 2:19
Confirmation bias is a phenomenon wherein decision makers have been shown to actively seek out and assign more weight to evidence that confirms their hypothesis, and ignore or underweigh evidence that could disconfirm their hypothesis. As such, it can be thought of as a form of selection bias in collecting evidence.
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Anonymous2006-08-13 2:20
Because god only likes white kids with cancer.
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Anonymous2006-08-13 2:26
Also, people are predisposed to seek out patterns in the random events around them. Pattern-matching + selection bias = zomg miracles
So only things that are "proof of a loving god (not sarcastic)" count as proof, whereas everything else that's horrid and depressing doesn't count as proof, in the eyes of the religious?
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Anonymous2006-08-13 2:58
The reason humans do anything irrational: because it makes them feel good.
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Anonymous2006-08-14 1:18
>>5
depends, you might have a religion that is actually based on fact, but usually religion = fallacy
Well, some people believe that miracles WILL happen to anyone with faith who prays for them. So millions of people may not have been 'saved' yet, and thus they must (on their own) develop a faith in God. God wouldn't preform a miracle for just anyone, because it would be like destroying their free will in choosing whether they believe in a God or not. If everyone has miracles happen to them, then everyone believes in a God, and there goes Gods entire 'test'
Also, I think it is important to mention that despite what you hear, most Christians believe that God has some element of wrath to him, and as such he doesn't HAVE to help everyone. Remember, he's pretty pissed from the whole Adam and Eve thing.
this topic is old. miracles and religion is for idiots and that's it. end of discussion. if you haven't realised this yet, you are an idiot too.
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Anonymous2006-08-14 18:45
The average person who believes in miracles is a middle age obese woman who lives alone with 5 cats.
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Anonymous2006-08-14 22:14
>>8
God is racist. Adam and Eve are just a small minority.
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Anonymous2006-08-14 22:27
>>11
I think God doesn't send people to heaven because it means that they have power and God is putting souls on earth to test them to see if they will not use the power irresponsibly if he takes them up into heaven. If god exists that is.
Okay, you're on the right track. But what do you believe in? If you're just agnostic or atheist, that's cool. But my point is that any and all supernatural belief is equally retarded.
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Anonymous2006-08-16 0:23
>>16
Discounting unexplained phenomenon is retarded too. Most are hoaxes, but there(which are almost exclusively rationally explainable) that doesn't mean you just should discount them. Never trust completely to one world view. Always consider that ANYTHING could happen.
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Anonymous2006-08-16 2:49
Pattern-matching + selection bias + scientifically unprovable = zomg miracles
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People believe in miracles (or anything for that matter) because, lacking the necessary knowledge, make [inductive] leaps in reasoning that may be true or false. Only proof denies faith; no proof --> faith.
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Anonymous2011-09-06 23:59
PEOPLE BELIEVE IN MIRACLES BECAUSE A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED TO THEM OR THEY HAVE WITNESS ONE AND GOD MAKES MIRACLES HAPPEN MIRACLES HAPPEN ALL THE TIME SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST STUPID FOR SAYING A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUPID THINGS THAT ARENT TRUE BECAUSE GOD IS OUT THERE AND HE DOES MAKE MIRACLES!!!!
i swear to fucking god. ye thats right GOD!!!!. i am actually sick of every one who ses that people who believe in miracles are idiots, and they r dumb. sort out ure life. why the hell are you on this page if ure not looking at miracles. sort out ure life. seriously why is it so wrong to believe in god and gods creation. its there religion. cum on people. dont they have a right to believe in something to. and i put any money who ever ses that miracles are gay and quirr are sitting at home right now playing cod because they aint got no freinds so they play on a virtual game to meet some french dudw there. can u leave everyone alone. if they wana believe in miracles they can. and who the fuck r u to stop them. i dont believe in miracles but i look up to the poeople that do. because they are the ones that do good in life because they think posititve. im not saying anything to anyone. but im just saying... please... just stop trying to stop them from what their lives are about and what they believe in. so before another person decides on wether to write somthing bad i hope that they read this first and change there mind.
(BTW i have nothng against french people. it was just the first nationality that popped into my head)
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Anonymous2012-03-08 18:11
>>24 I found your post rather unfufilling, a 2/10 overall and you neglected to check >>22's dubz
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Anonymous2012-03-10 11:01
I don't find need to discuss religion on a sci boar. But I could explain based on the "math" why this "higher power" allows good for one and bad for others.