The questionability of women portrayed as being used only for sex, and the human desire to use women only for sex. Both go against our "civilized" mindset, yet are natural feelings. Perhaps this conflict between what we see as lawfully or ethically right vs what we see as naturally or instinctively right, is what makes hentai so powerful a combination.
In other words, how can this be wrong when it feels so right?
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Anonymous2005-09-18 17:53
No, I mean like Brave New World. You simply aren't allowed to procreate normally. Pregnancy is viewed as bizarre and unnatural, and is inhibited by meds/gene tampering.
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Anonymous2005-09-18 21:27
I think censoring helps make people scared of sex. I was watching MTV and a song came on titled "your mummas got a penis", but when that particular lyrics was sung in the song, all you heard was "your mummas got a <silence>". Now imagine you are a 6 year old boy. Why do they censor the word out? BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH PENISES. OMFG I DARE NOT TOUCH MY PENIS. THE SHAME.
You didn't state that pre-condition, you simply asked if something was possible. What other pre-conditions aren't you stating?
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Anonymous2005-09-19 9:16
My way of controlling overpopulation would be to vasectomize all the guys who don't have enough money to guarantee their children will live well.
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Anonymous2005-09-20 13:49
If only becoming a Eunuch was a popular option
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Anonymous2005-09-20 15:10
If only they could make it hip and cool, like circumcision.
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Anonymous2005-09-21 4:19
>>21 It's still worth a shot. I say translate and localize every adult manga available, except loli.
So violent adult content serves as an "outlet" for such behavior, but pedophilic content somehow has the opposite effect? Hypocrite.
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Anonymous2005-09-21 14:19
No, I just don't like loli.
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Anonymous2005-09-21 18:57
Even those saying they want to have sex?
We should all kill ourselves in that reality.
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Anonymous2005-09-23 11:09
>>47
I've always thought that violent media, while being an outlet, isn't a cure, and therefore is like itching a scratch. My point isn't that people should actually murder people. I believe the root cause for such desires is something different, such as believing yourself to be incapable of acheiving your parents expectations or having a very low opinion of yourself. The key is to face the problem, understand it, and then solve it.
I think I've gone a little off topic.
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Anonymous2005-09-23 23:42
>>50
But I like to itch my scratch. Much more effective than scratching my itch.
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Anonymous2007-10-07 18:33
Not many people realize it, but despite the fact that it is run by men, civilization only came up as a need for women. In the end, everything comes down to making the woman happy, as odd as that sounds.
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Anonymous2007-10-07 19:30
i will not post my comment until my mentor redcream post
There is a difference between what we consider correct and what feels good.
In essence, our genes want us to spread them and we've been built for that. Things that feel good will in general help us achieve our biological goal, either because it helps us not die or because it helps us spawn new little gene carriers.
What we consider correct is much more complex. It's influenced by our own empathy (if something is shitty to me it probably is shitty to someone else, so why would I do something to another that I wouldn't want done to myself) and by the morals of our society.
The two are mostly unrelated and it's really no wonder when they come into conflict.
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Anonymous2007-10-08 16:41
But in order to mate you need to treat women like shit. Biology is immoral.
>>37
Time to join the skih society at my uni now...
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Anonymous2007-10-10 3:08
Actually, psycholo´gically I sometimes find myself beliving that sex should be left to the females alone, ergo lesbians all around... men arenät simply built for sex as our society portrays it... reproduction - yes, but not sex.
As in women are simply obsessed by it...
All they ever talk about is guys and relationships. A couple of times like when playing the game where you answer any silly question as truthfully as you can or whatever... their questions simply baffeled me.. as in I never even thought about most of my sexual preferences or indeed had any, where as they had a relitively bullet-speed answer to almost any seemingly akward question asked. And although they tried to play it shyfully and stuff, they had clear views on what positions they like, how they feel about what positions they (would) like bondage, lesbian sex and a whole lot more freakier stuff, I for one simply never think about.
But anyway If I asked them about stuff like cars... they'd simply laugh, comment on how weird guys' interests are and in some way try to say that they dont wanna talk about it, since they don't know much about the subject.
Whenever I complain how dull and pointless life is (which it ACTUALLY IS) to any girl - there is only one advice: get a girlfriend, and trust me I'm not trying to be a cocky bastard who is head over heels in love with himself but I can just say I got lucky in the genepool or smth and my life has been sorta like a harem manga (think ichigo 100% OR smth);;
But I always thought of women as humans and always clearly saw behind my desires to "be closer" to them e.g. wanting to fuck them a couple of times and move the fuck on.
I always thought of how my actions might hurt the other "person"... anyway that IS asuming the other person would have feelings such as myself + those which seem blatantly obvious from the intereaction with that individual. E.g. I might not mind fucking them and leaving it at that, but they would feel awful if something like that happened to them, since the want a "relationship" that is(whatever the fuck that word means). Sometimes though I do think I should've tried to pull a "Makoto" at school, but I guess it wouldn't just be me (in the defense of my fantasies I can for one say I did manage to get threeway kisses (with two other girls that is) and other weird flirty stuff with them))(<-sexy lisp quotes). but in the end I never really slept with anyone of them... well only in the literal sense of the word if anything (lol b would so call me a faggot... and so migh you)
Even the girls I like hanging around with, e.g. the ones not beyond help in maths and with enough sense of humor to make up their own jokes and comprehend trickier ones, who are on top of that sort of cute, I find, at times, repulsive, when they get all "girly", and the thought of seeing them often on a regular bases e.g. "going outwith them" starts to sicken me.
So here I am 21 still a virgin, as you might say, but I guess I'm not regretting that much... after all sex probably feels just like anything else in life... except it is the point of my existence as a biological organism... but saying that it is such simply because it feels good and people are afraid of dying, is simply an assumption in itself, asuming that "living" is "good" whatever the fuck those words conceive.
also in b4 thank god that faggots out of the genepool...
*I might just make a family or go all playboy when I get tired of bitching about the pointlesnesss of being stop watching anime and sitting around bbs', but seriously right now I'd much rather erase humanity from existence (think Evangelion and sorts) rather than contribute to its genepool.
argh hope u could make some sense out of the jibberish above
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Anonymous2007-10-10 4:58
>>59 I understand entirely. your life lacks purpose and direction, and you find many of the things you experience in day to day life mundane or irrelevant due to the large amounts of anime you have watched.
One word, you're a misogynist weeaboo lisp fag.
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Anonymous2007-10-12 10:04
WTF are you pussies on about? Since when did you consider women to have feelings?
The "civilised mindset" and natural insinct are just two different systems. I don't see how as scientists (in the loosest sense of the word) we can call one wrong and one right.
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Anonymous2007-10-12 13:59
Me = girl who faps to yaoi, occasionally browses /d/
/d/ and /h/ are no worse than /y/. It's all natural so long as you don't go around raping people IRL. I figure porn provides an important societal release valve for all the screwed up fantasies people create.
Otherwise it's "three cheers for repressed sexuality!"
BTW, why is this on /sci/? It's more ethics, really...
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Anonymous2007-10-12 16:27
>>62
Well, there really isn't an philosophy board (which would be awesome).
The objectification (making one into an object) of women through pictorial or symbolic means to translate to the Law of Consistency "one situation to mean always and forever" generalization of all women by the traits of one has always been a personal insecurity of women because if this is held true over what another "different" woman is known for, then this new individual won't be seen at all...as far as can be known from her point of view. From a man's point of view, he believes that the woman he IS seeing is the woman of his dreams...no woman is perfect...and that is what is supposed to define her as being a great woman which is why so many men are disappointed that most women are not porn stars or prostitutes...men disappoint themselves with the aforementioned generalization as an expectation of personal ambition. Men do it to themselves without realizing it. Men are dumb...I am a man...now that I know this...that is what makes a child into a man "is knowing he will never truly be a man and a woman will never be what he wants her to be".
True loves is knowing this and working with what you have, being grateful, and being self-respecting enough to not allow her or yourself to fall from personal duties knowing positives traits and negative ones as well. This chosen commitment is greater than any external obligation, but either or BOTH can lead to a lasting fruitful relationship. It's just a matter then for Free-Will and personal choice to be sustained throughout and then the peace that a man and woman seek will be found in playful bantor "arguing to be playful". :3