Hello, I came from /g/ and in this thread I want to expose my opinion about /prog/.
First of all: you are not as smart as you think you are, actually you are pretty pathetic. You may ask why this guy from /g/ says this? I say this because you really believe that LISP dialects are good for programming. Let me tell you something: LISP is just for BS n00bs students. Also this is the reason why the only computer book you know/mention is SICP, you probably left the university because maths were too difficult/boring for your fragile brains.
Second, world4ch memes are as dumb as imageboards "memes". You are not more special because you do jokes about jews, russians, and arabs or because you know some BBCODE+some unicode chars. Actually I think it's very funny how many of you waste your time learning how to "hack" text styles just to feel superior.
Third, all your knowledge about Touhou characters is embarrassing even for someone like my self (I watched anime when I was in the high-school). And also there is nothing funny about repeating LAIN a thousand times, seriously, even /b/tards seems smarter than you.
And the last thing: /r/programming is better than this shitty place full of elitist faggots like all you, and in my honest opinion Reddit is one of the more disgusting and stupid communities of the whole Internet.
I hope you could think about all this I said, but I know you can't because your brain is tiny. like the brain of a rat.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 0:06
* grabs popcorn *
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Anonymous2013-08-10 0:11
I agree, this board is really bad. So why bother coming here? I'll go to /g/ and never come back.
the only computer book you know/mention is SICP, you probably left the university because maths were too difficult/boring for your fragile brains.
I know I'm being trolled here, but just so you improve your future kopipes, SICP actually makes use of some math. Nothing extreme, but still there.
Then, please correct it or I'll refuse to say I have been successfully ``trolled''.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 0:13
*grabs dick*
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Anonymous2013-08-10 0:18
>>3
You are welcome to come to /g/ whenever you want: desktop threads are funny and we talk about privacy and stuff. Also you are not going to be ridiculed for not using VIP QUALITY NOTATION because we don't have any BBCODE, so we can focus on smart and productive conversation.
I would like to invite all you to come to /g/ for one day and observe our gentile ways.
>>4, I'm not sure about what kind of maths you are talk about, but I think this proves my initial post: seems that you actually read SICP (probably the Sussman edition) or at least a part of it, and that's so funny that I can even breath... why a smart person would ever read a book like SICP, seriously, why would any person with a brain bigger than a standard rat brain read that book. I have better ways to waste my time.
>>6
This might be hard for you to understand, but imagine that /b/ flooded /g/ with le e/b/in /b/ memes to the point where all of /g/'s culture was diluted to 1/10 of its original presence? You would be upset would you not? You're place for sharing desktop backgrounds, making stallman jokes, and ridiculing others for not knowing X in IT would be gone, and replaced by people looking for CP, laf u loose, and if trips op has to an hero. That's not too different from how /prog/ is now. You can judge /prog/ culture however you want, but it's a thing and it ought to be able to exist where it belongs, just like your /g/ and other's /b/.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 4:03
>>9
Did you get to implementing non determinism? You wont get stuff like that from your K&R. It's the only introductory text that isn't preparation for the mindless world of enterprise. Have you really read your SICP today?
>>14
I'd say the calculus of functions in programming is almost as difficult as modern languages' grammar and context. Why did we ever had to invent logic programming?
>>6 desktop threads are funny and we talk about privacy and stuff. IHBT
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Anonymous2013-08-10 10:26
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Hello, I came from /jp/ and in this thread I want to expose my opinion about /g/.
First of all: you are not as smart as you think you are, actually you are pretty pathetic. You may ask why this guy from /jp/ says this? I say this because you really believe that ``desktop'' or ``battlestation'' threads constitute meaningful and productive discussion. Let me tell you something: showing your shit online is just for poser faggots who need social acceptance. Also this is the reason why the only thing you do is spew memes and '>le /g/reentext everything you see, you probably left the university because you couldn't fit in due to your retardedness.
Second, imageboard memes are as dumb as Reddit "memes". You are not more special because you do jokes about Stallman, Gentoo, and '>le costanza face or because you know some linux commands+some unicode chars. Actually I think it's very funny how many of you waste your time learning how to "hack" ubuntus just to feel superior.
Third, your knowledge lack about Touhou characters is embarrassing even for someone like my self (I watched anime ever since I was in the high-school). And also there is nothing funny about repeating '>mfw, '>implying or any >'greentext a thousand times, seriously, even /b/tards seems smarter than you.
And the last thing: /r/technology is better than this shitty place full of elitist faggots like all you, and in my honest opinion Reddit is one of the more disgusting and stupid communities of the whole Internet.
I hope you could think about all this I said, but I know you can't because your brain is tiny. like the brain of a rat.
What do you think? Should I post this on /g/?
le, looks like i already have a ban request on /g/ (will probably be for all boards though)
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Anonymous2013-08-10 13:19
Alright, /g/. Book thread. Recommend any book you like in any genre, subject. or whatever you like. SICP
>HAHA LEL /g/ meme
No really, read it fucker.
They degraded it from a respectable Scheme book to a /g/ meme.
When is that /prog/ replacement board going to be ready?
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Anonymous2013-08-10 14:14
>>28
fuck I missed it. testing can you still post on /prog/ >>32?
>>33
I'm partially complete with the /prog/ -> sqlite scraper to circumvent thread deletion. see https://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1375952149/1- for the parsers.
It can make requests to threads, list pages, and subject, parse the data and give it to something else. Now I'm making the sqlite data store. Then will be the code for synching /prog/ to the datastore.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 14:23
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Anonymous2013-08-10 14:23
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Anonymous2013-08-10 14:24
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Anonymous2013-08-10 14:24
/prog/ is for hipsters that want to have their own secret club so they can feel superior to /g/. Image boards are just too mainstream for them.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 14:38
>>1
I'd be more concerned about the opinion you've formed if you were able to express it grammatically correctly. However it's likely that intelligent people with the same opinion just leave instead of telling everybody off like some wronged youngster. Did someone tell you this place was for you? If so, you were advised poorly.
>>38
That might make sense if /g/ existed before /prog/, and then /prog/ was created, linked from /g/, and populated by users of /g/ that were so elite the wanted to use a text based board with a smaller user base. But it isn't true. /prog/ has existed since 2004, has gone through a domain name change, and about a year ago it was linked from /g/. We now have a conflict of cultures, the one that existed when /prog/ was it's own thing, and now that it is perceived by some /g/ users as an off-shoot of /g/. I would prefer that you think of us as a group of old people clinging to a dying culture that is closer to usenet than 4chan. Although this isn't usenet.
Second, world4ch memes are
OP is lying: no one from le imageboards says ``world4ch''
This bastard probably came from /DQN/, I can recognize some patterns on his terrible grammar style...
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Anonymous2013-08-10 15:18
LAIN
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Anonymous2013-08-10 16:35
>>1
SCIP is a good book. It's true that it's just for beginners and there's a lot after that. But that's not the only book I've personally read (in fact I've gone way beyond with The Art of Computer Programming and ACM and IEEE articles).
LISP is a really powerfull and nice programming language. But there are other awesome languages that are rearely mentioned here (languages like J or Smalltalk).
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Anonymous2013-08-10 17:17
>>41
So what is this dying culture, Anon? Instead of programming, the most discussed subjects here are jews, niggers, nikita and bunch of political topics mixed with shitposting, tons of SPAM and ironic hatred towards /g/ as >>19. I don't believe /prog/ has any kind of culture, because there's nothing that suggest otherwise. The only one sentence - "Have you read your SICP today?" can't be classified as board culture. I'm being serious here anon, /prog/ just seems as shitposters and spammers den.
There's hardly any programming discussion around.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 17:19
>>45
Yes, nikita and the /g/shits have pretty much killed it off. Look back in time to 2007 - 2009.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 17:22
>>46
So it's dead, /prog/ must stop being hipsters and just come over to /g/. The times of text boards have passed, it's time to move on guys. Seriously.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 17:24
>>47
No it's still alive. We're just waiting for you all to leave before we come out again. Like an endangered species hiding in a suburban development if you will.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 17:28
>>48
You seriously believe /g/ has a secret mission to just come here 24/7 to shitpost and destroy /prog/ board? This is paranoia, the reason why /prog/ is dead is because /prog/riders are dead, /g/ isn't involved in this board being shit. Why would they wait? I'd seriously like to read some of those threads from endangered species. Why are they holding back? This is bullshit. Get on with the times Anon, there's no more /prog/, everybody's on /g/ now. Face it. Deal with it. It's over, it's too late, there's nothing you can now do about it.
I suggest you install gentoo and move on.
>>49
I would post on /g/ but there's too much immaturity for me. I know you'll retort about the immaturity here, but the kind here is well crafted and postmodern. The privacy threads are interesting, but I would be more comfortable with discussing those subjects from behind an anonymity network, just in case the tide ends up swinging the other way one day.
But if you want to read our stuff, then lurk here when you can for a while and then begin contributing. Come here not as a construction worker with a pavement roller, but as a unique creature living harmoniously in the ecosystem.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 18:16
>>49
Everyone but you. Now's your chance! Immanantize the eschaton! Go back to /g/ and fulfill your prophecy!
>>38
Yeah. Let's leave these hipsters rot themselves here while we have fun at /g/! Come with me, you'd better not stay behind. Promise me we will never come back here.
See you at the desktop thread.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 20:05
>>34
Nothing special happened. I guess they have some archives, but basically I replied a few times, they didn't seem to care much, and about two people used e/g/in memes unironically.
Thank you for the parser.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 20:09
>>45
So what is this dying culture, /g/-kun? Instead of technology, the most discussed subjects here are smartphones, rate my rig, desktop/battlestation threads and bunch of image macros mixed with shitposting, tons of SPAM and legitimate hatred towards /prog/ as >>1. I don't believe /g/ has any kind of culture, because there's nothing that suggest otherwise. The only one sentence - "Install Gentoo" can't be classified as board culture. I'm being serious here anon, /g/ just seems as shitposters and meme spewers den.
There's hardly any technology discussion around.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 20:10
>>46
Nikita has killed /prog/? What have you done for this board, other than bitching about Nikita?
He gave us Symta, ultrafinitism and a breakthrough in the field of biology (Jew parasite cell theory).
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Anonymous2013-08-10 20:12
>>60
No I love Nikita. But his coming here did mark a shift in /prog/. Or maybe it died out a little and then he filled the void with his jew spam. I'm not sure.
>>49 I suggest you install gentoo goldberg@voile-library ~ % uname -a
Linux gentoo-desktop 3.9.8-gentoo #2 SMP Sat Jun 29 17:15:34 EST 2013 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
Already did. Could you now stop spewing your stupid memes, please? If this board is so bad, why don't you leave forever? Or do you go constantly on Reddit telling people to get out there and come to your precious memeland, where all the text is green and your prose is heavily deformed by meaningless memes?
>>61
He came here like in 2010, which is coincidentally around the time ``/prog/ went to shit'' (it was always shit, of the good kind).
Then they put the link on /g/ and everything has been going downhill since then. No, don't say it has been worse before, because even the few /b/tards who came here were actually more tolerable and less LLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEELLLLL than the /g/reentarded shitstains.
>>63
What's with crediting him with jewspam and ultrafinitism then? Those things were around for a long time before 2010.
/prog/ is not now at its worst. The hax-my/forced-indentation-of my anus shitposting was almost intolerable around 2008-2009. I'll take the frequent but not incessant tdavis-esque threads over that.
Worst, this ``le making fun of le reddit'' trend is more annoying than redditors actually are. /prog/ isn't the worst offender here (not anymore!) The parody has the same form and reads as authentic, now there's just more of it. Guess what they don't do on proggit? Talk like or make fun of stereotypical redditors. (That's not an endorsement.) We used to hate on reddit in more creative ways.
But yes, /b/ has more for /prog/ than /g/ does. /g/ is composed of people who fancy themselves experts for having a computer and lacking social skills. That ship sailed some time in the 80s.
Did you know, if you accept finitism, you also accept that you have only primitive recursive functions. Thus denying the existence of more powerful computation constructs, like a turing machine?
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Anonymous2013-08-10 21:41
>>65
PR goes a long way and Coq takes advantage of it. There is no halting problem in Coq, so any valid program is subject to machine analysis.
There are some real world problems that aren't amenable to this approach, but the field of CS has invented over half of them.
>>57
You almost got me, but desktop threads are boring.
>>59
/g/ isn't perfect, I know, but at least the discussion is somehow related to technology (consumer electronics are technology), while /prog/ is more about politics ans shitposting than programming.
>>62
I just don't agree with the popular belief that everything what's shit about /prog/ is /g/'s fault. It's simply not true.
Also, the reddit issue. This fucking argument is used almost always when someone on /prog/ has different opinion from the rest. Hurr, you must be from reddit durr. I don't like reddit, I don't go there, just please stop refering to reddit whenever I post anything. Is this sime kind of complex, or what?
See this post here >>64, again, reddit and /g/ is to blame for everything.
I'm from /g/, I don't hate /prog/, I didn't come here to shitpost, but blaming /g/ for every fucking shitpost or SPAM that appear here is just stupid.
>>64 Worst, this ``le making fun of le reddit''
Get with the times, grandpa. Now we hate on Hacker Jews and anything that has to do with ENTERPRISE and Web 2.0 Cloud Javascript Enabled Social Media.
Using Back to Reddit, ``please'' is just a generic insult and lately we haven't been really hating on Reddit lately.
It's mostly /g/ who came and shitted up the place with their memes and threads like this. Hell, I dare to say proggit users are cool nowadays, because their links are (and usually have been) programming related, even if they care a bit too much about Javashit. You're just retarded if you open the comments for pure pleasure.
You seem to think the HMA meme is something cringe worthy, but actually I reminisce of those times and I'd wish we could get them back, because I'm sure as hell these /g/tards aren't helping at all.
Also, look, the dubs guy is still here.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 22:29
Why don't you guys just move to /g/ already. Images are fun.
>>68 the discussion is somehow related to technology
The discussion here is somehow related to programming, too. Check the front page instead of ranting about the lack of /g/reentext here.
In case you haven't figured out already, nobody is putting all the blame on /g/. Why would /g/ be responsible of the rampant antisemitism, the spam bots or the I FOUND A NEW EVIL threads? They're all our issues, and we know pretty well the causes of them.
What we're blaming you of is the fact you brought your ``culture'' here. Asking for programming help (I'm pretty sure you don't like tech support threads either), replying to legitimate threads with your interrupted /g/reen texts, spewing memes like a child from Reddit would do, complaining about the state of the board after you do the things I mentioned and stuff like that are what we don't want you to do.
As I said in >>69, telling someone to fuck off back to Reddit is just another way of saying "you're a retard, get out" that just stuck because there were legitimate proggit users that came here. It does not reflect the current situation of the board.
So please, we don't mind if you want to come here, but for fuck's sake, write proper prose and communicate like a proper human (that is, not stuffing your posts with e/g/in meme foam)
>>68
I encourage you to reread >>64 carefully. It contradicts what you've said about it.
Despite your protests, your continued presence in /prog/ reveals your conceit... or deceit. You remind me of Dawkins, who gave up his life of doing useful science to harass Christians. Except he invented the mother of all memes, and you claim to come from the land of regurgitated memes.
/g/'s influence on /prog/ (which wasn't brought up in >>64, thank you very much) has never been good. Do you remember Woodscrews? /prog/ was as bad as /g/ at that time for the same reason. With 3-5 regulars (relax, two of them are in Sußman's head—Cain and Abel-san), it's easy to tell when /prog/ is suffering from transient external influence and it's usually just as easy to identify the origin.
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Anonymous2013-08-10 22:50
>>70
e/g/in post /g/ro ;) install le /g/entoo XDDDDDDDDD
>>69
All those things were made fun of before, but there are a lot of assholes aping stereotypical redditors when they shit on reddit. The form you bring up is not at issue.
HMA was a real problem at times. I don't know if you managed to understand any of the content threads that were completely derailed by HMA, but it ruined a lot of good, topical conversation. The predictable HMA responses here and there were fine, but there was a point when it wasn't funny or innocuous.
>>76-77
Sure, but I'm not blaming /g/ for everything. So I don't care if it was /g/'s fault or not. /prog/ is better without it, and the bit of /g/ we have now is not as bad as HMA was.
This ``lelcunt'' is more annoying than the people he's responding to.
>>79
I've yet to see a good thread completely destroyed by /g/ since woodscrews. HMA was peaking at that time anyway, and /prog/ was near its worst.
If you think the infrequent appearance of someone from /g/ not quite fitting in and maybe being a shit by starting a thread like this one is worse than every topical conversation being shitspammed into nothing and being pushed to page 5 by a series of identical posts then I don't know what to say.
Things were better before HMA peaked than now. It's not worse now because we have a few /g/ folks here, it's worse now because we now have less quality /prog/lodytes. We put up with that frequent, low-snr tdavis stuff, I think we can put up with the amount of /g/ bullshit that shows up.
I'm not hating on the tdavis stuff. It's a part of our heritage and it's not too obnoxious.
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Anonymous2013-08-11 0:03
>>68
The problem here is that you are talking about why /prog/ is shit. Now I don't think /prog/ is shit. You think /prog/ is shit. I don't blame /g/ for making /prog/ shit (not that I think /prog/ is shit). But if you have a bunch of people that think you are shit, are they going to be fun to be around? Just accept us as we are and we'll have a good time.
>>79
lelcunt's shitposting is postmodern and has thought put into it.
>>80
stop ranking me in quality. I'm not a caged bird that sings for your pleasure.
Holly shit 80 replies? I though you knew I was just trolling you a bit last night, you guys are being very susceptible lately.. seems that you are taking this shit too serious.
At least we don't have this kind of drama in /jp/
>>74 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MANAGED TO UNDERSTAND ANY OF THE ANUS THREADS THAT WERE COMPLETELY DERAILED BY MY ANUS, BUT IT RUINED A LOT OF GOOD, TOPICAL ANII
68 here, I give up, you win. /prog/ is awesome and /g/ sucks monkey balls. Just ordered SICP. Just one thing, I never posted this stuff >>73 on /prog/. That is all, have a nice day!
>>1
Fuck you! I'd suck everyone's cock here, because they're worth it and they don't ask me to rate there fucking desktop screen shots that they pull offline.
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Anonymous2013-08-11 18:18
Common lisp is in fact incredibly practical when programming something high level and its my go to language when I want to program something high level.
>>100
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Anonymous2013-08-11 19:09
>>101
lelcunt and the people who imitate him do not sage their posts