Encryption is useless

"Yes, the NSA has the capability to crack anything weaker than SHA-2048 with O(1) complexity."

- Edward Snowden

We need quantum-proof crypto... NOW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography

Fucking Jews, I just want to chainsaw behead them all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Childhood.2C_family_and_education
studied computing at ... Community College
I doubt he has any authority to speak on cryptography

Moreover, numerous discrepancies point that this Snowden is a made-up figure with a fake past to appeal target auditory. First of all being that Snowden looks like a Hollywood actor from the Matrix movie, not your typical neckbeard.

Sure you can probably flatten most computation to O(1) time compelxity.

>>1
"Yes, the NSA has the capability to crack anything weaker than SHA-2048 with O(1) complexity."
As a computational complexity theorist, I can confirm that it is possible to crack any hash whose output is less than or equal to 2048 bits in O(1). Or, put more succinctly, （　≖‿≖）.

>>2
Peace, stud!

>>3
your just jealous cuz he isn't morbidly obese and fucking ugly like yourself (and I)

>>4
FLATTEN MY BODY no seriously, please do, I am too fucking fat

I think you made that quote up.

"My dubs, czech 'em"

- Dubs Guy

We need check-proof dubs... NOW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-checking_dubstography

>>5

Let's see.

1. Input Hash to crack S.
2. Enumerate the set of all strings as the list L.
3. Compute the SHA-2048 of the current string in L, as hash H.
4. If H matches S, then return H.
5. Otherwise, proceed to the next element of L and repeat from step 3.

>>5
Maybe you missed the news last week.

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/06/d-wave-quantum-computer-usc/

Google has one, the US Airforce has one, and the NSA has several, including the largest one that has 2048 q-bits.

>>9
that's cool, my keys are 8192 bit.

>>10
And how long will that be of use? In 4-5 more years, they will have 8192 q-bit machines, classified and hidden from the public's view, if they don't already.

>>10
That's cool, but my secret quantum computer has 8192 q-bits.

>>11
long enough for quantum-resistant crypto to surface.

>>12
that's pretty cool, I bet you're a hit with the ladies

So quantum computers basically do the computation in parallel?

Then how are they different from normal computers with several CPUs?

>>13
You don't seem to understand. If someone logs your encrypted transmission, they just have to wait a few years before they have the technology to brute force it and get the plain text. And since the technology is not public, it could exist today for all you know.

>>14
wikipedia

>>13,15,16
back to /g/

>>16
wikipedia
I did. It says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_superposition
if a physical system may be in one of many configurations — arrangements of particles or fields — then the most general state is a combination of all of these possibilities
So basically a "physical system" has a number of parallel processor, result of which is folded to a single value, like with Lisp's REDUCE function.

Wikipedia is very vague source of information.

>>17
has a number of parallel processorS
self fix

Quantum is just a buzzword nowadays. Modern machines that utilize so called quantum processes, are simply using qubits instead of electrons. Yes it is many fold faster (Google bought a server recently using them), however first these systems need to be running at 0K (yes absolute ZERO kelvin), as even slight temp changes causes the sub-atomic particles to gain energy hence change state, hence incorrect results when reading the qubit.

True quantum computers will come about when quantum entanglement is utilized. That will be the day when no current hash is uncrackable. However that being said, by that time, prime numbers will of reached billions of digits as well due to powerful machines. Thus even quantum processes will have trouble dealing with numbers that large in encryption. Even though entanglement theoretically transmits data faster than light, that's not quite true as nothing is actually sent. But it is not instant. As data must still be read, hence it is not an infinite speed, as the act of reading will introduce a time differential.

So when you read on another sites about FTL travel, and 0s process calculations, they are wrong. I have read journal articles in Nature too about similar things, so much bullshit, I am only 21 with a Physics degree and I even I can say these professors are chatting our of their arses.

will of reached

>>15
that's cool, chances are whatever they logged will be irrelevant in a few years.

>>19
I am only 21 with a Physics degree and I even I can say these professors are chatting our of their arses.
I'm 30 with wikipedia degree and I even I can say that you are chatting out of your arse.

I'm 12 with no degree and what is this

>>15
they just have to wait a few years...
They don't have to wait! They can easily torture the password out of you.

So if they know about your transmission, then you already fucked up.

>>19
(yes absolute ZERO kelvin)
Physics degree
ihbt

>>9
Hoax, stupid government entities and corporations getting fooled as usual.

This isn't the cold war anymore, the NSA is a joke now.

If only this is was still pre-1980s, all of these fucks would be getting hanged or fired and google would get absolutely dominated by a peak IBM.

everything is getting worse

>>26
This isn't the cold war anymore, the NSA is a joke now.
It is now a war against own citizens. NSA have to gather and analyze information, so that elites could react accordingly.

>>26
This isn't the cold war anymore, the NSA is a joke now.
This is actually worse. If Murrikan intelligence agencies let themselves become lazy and dumb by over-relying on technology, their country is in really deep shit. Not a-few-exploding-sandniggers-a-year shit (which their media would have you believe are a real threat), but real actual shit.

>>26
stupid government entities
The NSA is the single largest employer of Math PhDs in the world.

>>29
PhD level math is a joke and has no grounding in reality, much less useful for anything. Just what good does it do the NSA to have a bunch of dweebs who are obsessed with finding the hypervolume of an infinite dimension sphere do? Shit like Graham's number? Nonsense.

NSA is a public make-work program.

>>30
As a PhD level mathematician, I am obese and ugly and I hate myself.

>>29
1. They aren't the people running the show over there.
2. non-autodidact scum, also they are a bunch of applied math dumbasses as well

>>30
Fucking idiot atheist physicalist dumbass who is too stupid to be able to handle anything that is abstract. This dumbass cant even invent anything but will still suck the dick of engineers.

>>28
Which is why we need to exterminate the jew so we can prevent it.
We need to save amurica

>>3
What makes you think he can't be an autodidact on the subject of cryptography?

>>34
You're an autodidact in anal sex.

Question: Does the NSA cooperate with other states like Israel?

Snowden: Yes, all the time. The NSA has a large section for that, called the FAD - Foreign Affairs Directorate.

Question: Did the NSA help to write the Stuxnet program? (the malicious program used against the Iranian nuclear facilities -- ed.)

Snowden: The NSA and Israel wrote Stuxnet together.

>>36
Shalom!

>>36
[Citation Needed]

Question: What's your favorite Touhou?
Snowden: I'm really fond of Remilia, but I'd have to say that Marisa is my favorite. I admire how she counterbalances the tyranny of Reimu with her kind, carefree spirit. Reimu is just a bully and a fanatical theocrat, and has been attacking Moriya Shrine, while claiming that she is being attacked by Sanae.
Question: Which Touhou would you program with?
Snowden: Nitori. This needs no explanation.

>>38
http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-en.htm

>people who need citations

that feel when you ain't Jewish and never wrote an awesome virus

>>29
My anus is the single largest employer of dicks in the world.

>>43
My dubs are the single largest employer of checkers in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skipjack_%28cipher%29
A truncated differential attack was also published against 28 rounds of Skipjack cipher.[6] This was later complemented by a slide attack on all 32 rounds.[7] Biham, Shamir and Biryukov's attack continues to be the best cryptanalysis of Skipjack known to the public.
If the NSA is so smart, how are three kikes able to break all 32 rounds?

>>1
O(1) complexity
so they have the backdoor? Wut

>>28
If Murrikan intelligence agencies let themselves become lazy and dumb by over-relying on technology,
If?

>>9
>d-wave
>quantum
>wired.com
you sure do have reliable sources of information
that shit cannot into schor algo
.
the sad truth is that nsa probably have backdoor for the only schor-resistant perfect forward-secret encryption scheme
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/11/the_strange_sto.html

>>48
elliptic crypto isn't schor-resistant you dumb fuck

>>39
Citation?

>>3
>only neckbeards know how to use computers.
no.

>>51
yes. female neckbeards are also neckbeards, they just don't have facial hair (but they're fat, smelly, ugly and socially incompetent just like their male counterparts).

>>51
I've never met a fat female programmer. Ugly, maybe, but never fat or smelly

I've never met a female programmer.
FTFY

>>54
I've never met a female
FTFY

>>53
fine, if you're going to split hairs, then:
every person who knows how to use computers is a neckbeard.
a neckbeard is defined as a person that possesses at least two of the following attributes: fat, smelly, ugly, socially incompetent. it is remarked that male neckbeards often have neck beards (hence the name).

>>53
also, you're unlikely to see fat neckbeards because they don't like going out (partly out of laziness and partly out of being ashamed of their sorry physical state)

>>57
(partly out of laziness and partly out of being ashamed of their sorry physical state)
Sounds like lived experience.

>>58
yes :( i hate myself

>>59

Do not hate yourself, brother.  You are not like others, and you will not find peace until you understand that.  But I prefer your company to theirs.  If it's worth anything to you, I am fairly good looking; I have a family and a good job.  But I am unable to force myself to join in with the normal people.  I feel as if I am a member of a different species.  Here I feel as if I am understood.

>>60
A family? If you decided to have kids, why did you do so?

>>61
Lolies!?

>>62
Right. Thing is, I fucking hate children and I can't see any reason anyone could possibly want anything to do with them.

>>61
In fact, the first pregnancy was not intentional; I was not living a lifestyle that was likely to lead to reproduction.  However, I like kids, and I can't help but think that abortion is murder.  Saying abortion isn't murder is like saying that if a baby is inside a bag, it doesn't exist.  It doesn't really matter that the bag is made out of a human being.  The rights of the parent shouldn't enter into it any more than they should after the baby is born.

Also, the structure of the human mind is such that once you have children, you prefer to have (more) children, and you will not abandon them.  There are exceptions of course, but I have no regrets.  That is the product of biology I am sure, but so is the fact that it doesn't bother me.  The most desperate person on earth is the woman in her late 30s with no children (I'm a man, but I think the men likely just hide it better).

An interesting side effect of parenthood is that I am fearful and squeamish about many things, whereas before I was rarely afraid of anything.  I did not expect it to affect me that way, but the instinct to feed one's offspring is overpowering, and has in my case led to a stronger instinct for self-preservation.

>>64
Saying abortion isn't murder is like saying that if a baby is inside a bag, it doesn't exist.  It doesn't really matter that the bag is made out of a human being.
Natality is also murder, it just takes a lot longer. But eventually and inevitably the child dies, possibly after leading an unhappy life in the overpopulated world you helped create. Also, a 2 month foetus has neither sapience nor sentience, so I don't see why it should get any more rights than the average parasitic organism. Also, shitting more babies in our overpopulated world is irresponsible and harmful.

That is the product of biology I am sure, but so is the fact that it doesn't bother me.
So is having sexual intercourse (which, by the way, does not imply penetrative sex) for pleasure.

The most desperate person on earth is the woman in her late 30s with no children (I'm a man, but I think the men likely just hide it better).
Not really; if most (over 95%) of people have, to varying degrees, a biologically-induced psychological need for having children (which is terrible news for mother Earth, by the way), then an even larger amount of desperation befalls the one who does not want children, for they will have a very hard time finding a partner with the same preference.

>>65
biologically-induced psychological need for having children (which is terrible news for mother Earth, by the way),
Hitler tried to save the Earth with eugenics, but you ignored him. Enjoy your democracy, liberalism and overpopulation, suffocating in its own waste.

>>66
Eugenics means selecting based on some idiot's biased criteria. What I'm suggesting is that people (uniformly) randomly stop breeding.

>>67
What is wrong with selecting for good personality? It solves both overpopulation and evolution.

>>68
What does eugenics has to do with personality?

>>19
however first these systems need to be running at 0K (yes absolute ZERO kelvin), as even slight temp changes causes the sub-atomic particles to gain energy hence change state, hence incorrect results when reading the qubit.
Mental midget.

>>64
This is a bunch of pseudo-scientific evo psych bullshit.

Where's all the hard evidence to support all your assumptions and so-called ``facts''? The popscience books on evolution? Your dawkins? the lesswrong.com fanatics?

Remember, I'm not denying evolution but just denying this kind of misuse of it. Also your personal experience doesn't mean anything.

>>68
It is not possess to select for any personality even at the genetic level with advance technology in the future.
nor is it desirable to do such a thing

i want a cyber anus

>>71
When did I represent any of that as fact?  Someone asked for my opinion and I gave it.  The only general statement of fact I made was that most parents like children; I will leave supporting that with scientific evidence to you.

I suppose you go around demanding proof for the obvious whenever you feel like yanking someone's chain.  Maybe /r/atheism is more suited to your way of thinking.

>>68
Aside from obvious chemical imbalances, personality isn't genetic. If a kid is born from biological parents with a certain personality trait but is raised in a family that has the opposite trait, they are very likely to inherit the trait of the latter. In other words, idiots should refrain from raising children, and non-idiots should adopt (if they really want to have children). Which makes sense.

However, thanks to the Dunning-Kruger, what we would end up with in practice is that people who would have been good parents underestimate themselves, while idiots think they're really great and decide to adopt/procreate.

Fuck I hate humans.

evolution
Making our shitty fragile bodies imperceptibly less shitty and fragile (in the very best case scenario)? That's evolution? I'd rather place my bets on transhumanism and mind uploading.

``The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers.'' -Bill Gates, The Road Ahead

encrypt my name

>>77
Damn it! I was saving those dubs for a special occasion!

transhumanism and mind uploading are faggot things thought up by faggot people
we can't let such things happen

>>74
Opinions aren't the obvious.

>>79
The last bastion of privacy is the fact that nobody can get inside your head. Every sentient being was always guaranteed its consciousness to be only its own and not accessible to any entity (perhaps besides deities, if you take religious views into account). If an interface is created which would allow to reduce the mind of a person to a set of digital data, this would be the end of that person as a human being, and probably the end of humanity if it were implemented en masse.

>>79,81
it will happen. deal with it. we are gonna be a hive. our queen, the government and bankers

>>81
what do you need your privacy for, terrorist?

WYPMP

>>81,82
If an interface is created which would allow to reduce the mind of a person to a set of digital data, this would be the end of that person as a human being, and probably the end of humanity if it were implemented en masse.
Depends on the country. In shitholes like the USA, Russia, China, India and UK (and possibly France and Australia too), I'm sure it's going to be abused to hell.

>>83
I agree, privacy is something only terrorists want. As such, please post some pictures of your female feminist tits (unless you're a privacy-loving pedophile terrorist that is!).

>>83
Also post your home address and produce a map of your regular walking paths and the times at which you usually take them. I mean, if you got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear, right?

>>81
If an interface is created which would allow to reduce the mind of a person to a set of digital data, this would be the end of that person as a human being, and probably the end of humanity if it were implemented en masse.
That is the major trend in current bioinformatics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRAIN_Initiative

Obama confirms humans are going to be extinct in the observable future.

>>85
Also post your home address
I did. My address is совецкая 122, кв.19

Because I'm not afraid of some african-american from /prog/.

>>87
FFP is Nikita? The plot thickens.

>>88
Your mom is Nikita.

I can break every symmetric cipher of key size less than 256 bits in constant time!

>>90
I can break yo'ure mom's anus in constant time!

>>88

I knew it!  Females would never approach /prog/.

>>60

Fuck you faggot.

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amidoinitright?

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>>95
thpoilerth!

>>90
How ?

>>97
No clue but I'll try
Shalom!

check these sweet ass dubs

>>99
nice, bro

dubs are never useless

>>81
If an interface is created which would allow to reduce the mind of a person to a set of digital data, this would be the end of that person as a human being, and probably the end of humanity if it were implemented en masse.
Option 1: Once you're dead, you're dead. Forever. It's literally the end of you. You cease to exist. Perhaps you really made sure of it by shooting yourself in the head to prevent scanning.
Option 2: Once you're dead, your brain gets scanned and you violently regain consciousness inside a computer (possibly against your will, thanks to anti-euthanasia groups and christfags). You must pay for your own electricity and computing time lease (though you can't afford a full backup), so you must work a shitty corporate job. The manager not only supervises your activities, but also your thoughts. If you run out of money, you are evicted from your computer space, a side effect of which is immediate death. But that's just everyday life in a free capitalist world, right? The virtual world (socioeconomically) looks a lot like the movie In Time. Your main way of spending your free time (something you do not have a lot of) is running a program that simulates dopamine release (which is, thanks to politicians and christfags, illegal). The computer you run on almost certainly has backdoors from both your government and the company you work for, and you are under constant surveillance. In between shots of virtual meth you realize how much you hate what you've become and regret insulting all those neckbearded socialist who had advocated for software freedom so many years ago.
Option 3: Once you're dead, your brain gets scanned and you suddenly regain consciousness inside a computer (but only if you agreed to it). The computer is supplied by your e-life insurance policy, and you had access to it before you actually died (so you could check that it is, indeed, clean of backdoors). Since most people preferred to just die (something about being uncomfortable with the idea of not having a biological body) and have eventually realized that overpopulation is a serious problem for both humanity and the environment, the Earth population is just a few dozen millions plus twice as many ``computerized people''. Since there are so few people, natural resources are abundant and there is enough energy and matter for everyone to live comfortably, whether virtual or not. After a few thousands of years of virtual time (i.e. a few years of real time), a team of physicists discovered how to construct space elevators, as well as how to obtain exotic matter to construct an Alcubierre drive. The news article says they'll be ready to start launching whoever wants to go into space in maximum five years. They're also working on being able to send of biological people into space, but that's harder since they're so fragile and have so many requirements, so it might take another twenty years or so. Since you don't want to wait, you execute sleep(157788000) and wake up just in time. You (the one in the spaceship) start exploring the galaxy. You drop off backups of yourself as well as flight plan and path updates every once in a while. You wander around aimlessly, exploring star system after star system. "Frank Drake was full of shit", you think to yourself, though you've only checked a tiny fraction of the galaxy. Finally you return to Earth (after a hundred thousand real time years) to discover that humans have now spread to and colonized many of the neighbouring star systems. A good idea, since there have been quite a number of deadly cataclysms on Earth in the meantime. You are pleased to find out that mind uploading can now be performed non-destructively, and that mind downloading and body replication are also possible (the mechanics of which are indistinguishable from wizardry). Other people have been lucky enough to meet with aliens who have also gotten to about the same stage. In particular, one species originates from a planet called The Land of Lisp, and their computer science skills are literally magic.

The options are ordered by probability, most likely first.

>>102
When the singularity happens (still waiting, Kurzweil and Kaku), I'm going simulate my own private universe where I am a cute little witch and wear cute Touhou dresses, but everyone else is normal. I'll give them hope, then crush their dreams right in front of them, keeping them in perpetual misery. I'll curse them with ambitions, but make those ambitions impossible to fulfill. I'll give them a good life, then smash them right in the middle, just to give them a taste of the happiness that they never have. I'll delude them into thinking that they are free, then reveal to them that they are only my slaves. I'll torture and kill them, just to resurrect them and do it again, until their mind is completely broken and there is no shreds of a human left in them, then discard them and move on to the next victim. I'll make Hell, and condemn those who resent my evil ways to eternal agony. I'll teach them concepts of justice just sneer in their faces as they try to reconcile my words with my actions. I'll reward those who emulate me with riches and power, and punish those who don't with starvation, sickness, and the death of those around them. I'll make them toil for their entire lives to build monuments to my vanity. I'll give them brief reprieves of love and contentment, then kill off everything they loved and leave them wondering what they did wrong.

 This will be a very fun and very intellectual game -- I am very much looking forward to it.

>>102
>>103
What is this atheist techonphile bullshit

>>104
maybe if your family tree didn't look like a clique you'd have the brainpower to understand

>>103
Wait a second, that sounds a lot like the christian god (well minus the Tōhō). FUCK

>>105
HAHA! And that's coming from some new-atheist transhumanist retard.

>>107
them be fightin' words, boy.

What about one time pads for encryption, aren't those safe from infinite computing power if cryptographically secure random number generation is used?


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>>109
you are fucking retarded

>>110

dumbass easily wooed by the word ``quantum'' in his stupid pseudo-science pop-sci magazines detected

>>109
I made that image. Leave it on /jp/, where it belongs.

>>112
sorry, how do i delete my poast? o.O

>>112
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