/prog/ - Can SICP help you get hired for a first job?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 12:55

Also do you think it would be worth of mentioning on a resume -- like a link to all the exercises you completed on github or something? Srs question. I'm about to be in chapter two and have completed all exercises up to this point so I'm not just talking here.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 12:59

Hey, look at this guy, he's read an introductory textbook, we'd better hire him immediately.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 13:02

>>2

Ever seen the last two exercises of the book?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 13:03

i doubt there's anyone left here that's read and done all the book's exercises

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 13:30

More liek the opposite. I'm 30 and still can't get a job.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 13:31

>>5
an other reason to hate the Jews.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 13:47

>>5

Did you finish all the exercises, including the last two?

Name: [Goldenbaum] 2013-06-13 13:58

>>5

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 14:25

>>7
No. I just ran through SICP quickly.

All exercises were seemingly trivial.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 14:29

>>9
Sequel book (http://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/titles/content/sicm/book.html) appears much harder than SICP, so I failed to understand it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 14:35

>>6
kill yourself.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 14:37

>>9
You're not really qualified to answer the question, then. Reading the book and doing all the fucking exercises are two entirely different things.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 14:39

>>9
trivial enough that you're unemployed as fuck amirite?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 14:51

>>13
but I'm russian!

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 16:11

>>11
Shalom, Shlomo!

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 16:28

>>1
No. Just say you know Scheme part of your languages. And on your portfolio show a URL to your programs. Then a job is guaranteed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 16:29

summon the fucking sussm-

oh yeah that's right he packed his shit and left

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 16:43

So nobody here has actually done every exercise in the book?

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 16:57

>>18
EXERCISE MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 17:11

>>18
I havent done even my village school exercises, because attending school required boat travel across the 1km wide river and then pulling the boat upward the flow. You know, education has no value for a village Russian.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 17:36

>>7,18
I never read SICP, but looking at the last two problems... shit, I did those in a 200 level algorithms course. Which makes sense, because SICP is, after all, the book for a rather thorough introductory class.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 17:43

>>21

I find that hard to believe. Kids at my school don't even get to do this at the undergraduate level (we don't have a compilers or functional programming class).

http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-35.html#%_thm_5.51

http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-35.html#%_thm_5.52

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 17:45

>>22
Yeah, you're right, I was misremembering. It was a 300 level class, where we implemented a minimal scheme interpreter in OCaml.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 18:36

>>23

That's fine and dandy. The question is, is a reference of proof to these kinds of exercises enough to get your foot into the door as a junior dev.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 18:40

junior dev
Why do people think it's a worthy job? Every time someone says "but your Lithp won't get you a job as a code monkey!" I always think of two gay niggers saying how refusing to suck cocks won't get you a place at the amazing world of gay prostitution.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 18:48

You need to be jew for getting IT job.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 18:59

No, you need to be Indian to get an IT job. Why the fuck do you go for the lowest denominator, Nikita? You could always try programming language design or game design in an university or some Jew owned company, but no, you aim for the shittiest job.

Might as well make a living scrubbing toilets, fagstorm.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 20:59

>>20
1km wide river and then pulling the boat upward the flow
You couldn't handle a single kilometer of rowing upstream? How pathetic. Back in my day I had to walk 15 miles and climb up a waterfall both ways. I didn't feel like going one time, so my dad beat the shit out of me with a whiskey bottle then made me sleep on a bunch of barbed wire.

And I fucking enjoyed the experience of being educated! You deserve to be a stupid waste, you lazy bum. The world doesn't owe you anything.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 21:02

>>28
So you think you had a hard childhood? Well fuck you, its got nothing on mine. My mom practically kicked my ass out of the house before I even hit 13, and I never even met my dad. My only friend until I was 10 was this guy next door who was always beating the shit out of me and telling me I wasn't worth shit. Its not even like I had a choice, the town had like 9 people in it. You think thats the worst? My only “real” friend was an Asian guy in his thirties or something, who only kept me around because he thought I could help him get laid. The only perk was hanging around with this ginger chick, she was flat as a pancake but damn was she a nymph. But dear god the bane of my existence was this adult couple that I could NOT seem to avoid. You know these couples that are absolutely sickening, they wear matching outfits and finish each others sentences? Yeah these are them, and they had a cat, which made it worse because it wouldn't shut up. I moved from the town and just ended up fighting other kids. The only thing that kept me going was to become a pokemon master.

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 21:05

>>24
enough
As in, without anything else? Your resume just shows burger flipping and ``Completed SICP exercises on github.com/muhelegance'' ? Fuck no. Companies that hire `junior devs' want to see that you can take responsibilities, not just write down what you think are answers to a textbook, especially one for which you can just search on google for the answers because hundreds of other people have done the same thing.

Sure, you might be able to get a job with a resume like that, but that just proves the company really needed a cheap hire and was willing to take on anyone who had ever run gcc -o hello hello.c .

Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 21:07

Don't mention SICP; it reeks of amateur bullshitting. You might get interviewed just for the laughs!

NEVER FEAR, the JOB WIZARD is HERE!



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- From this day forth, you shall forever be EMPLOYABLE -

^{Here's how you can easily get a job:}
- have an online portfolio, resume, github, jsfiddle, bitbucket, whatever. Have something you can show someone in person or on their own time.
- go on your local job board, search the open positions for keywords. search through those for job skills you're passably competent with. Tailor your resumes to what they're looking for. Spam them good.
- go down to your local temp center and get employed in any tech job that lets you code. hang on for as long as possible and learn everything you can. stick your shit code in to as much live code as possible. if you get canned, just continue the cycle of email resume, get interview, land job, quit or be fired.

Once you do that shit, you'll know how to lie to get the job you really want!

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Name: Anonymous 2013-06-13 21:26

>>30

Very, very, few people have implemented ALL or the last two exercises. If you get an interview, you could talk about a few of the complex ones, how you went about implementing it, etc. I can only think of one person who shows proof of all the actual exercises.

https://github.com/skanev/playground/tree/master/scheme/sicp

Nobody else has done all of them. Don't disregard the sussman as if it's some nooblord shit, cockface.