Hey guys who wants to be on a code team?
Coding by yourself is fun, and can get small things done.
But on a team its awesome, people to talk to, every finishes
things like they're nothing, massive projects completed in no
time, and if the project gets well known, then everyone gets
credit, and gets their name out. What is there to lose?
maybe you'll rage at some idiot that could possible get
on the team some how, but thats just lawls. COME ON GUYS!
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Anonymous2013-03-13 20:49
Ok. I write Symta. What team should I join?
I can also code Self and a little Factor, but point-free is really confusing.
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Anonymous2013-03-13 21:05
I can code C, FIOC and a bit of Scheme. What do you want to do?
maybe you'll rage at some idiot that could possible get
on the team some how, but thats just lawls.
I think we've found that idiot.
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Anonymous2013-03-13 21:25
My favs are javascript, html, css, php
but i also know a tad C, python, lua, (and java but i really dislike it) and i take a game maker class
any ideas on what we should make first tho?
>>5 My favs are javascript, html, css, php
and i take a game maker class
Please take a look at yourself in the mirror. Observe every detail of you very carefully. Breathe deeply and start pondering why you're living at this instant.
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Anonymous2013-03-13 21:42
>>6 get off of /g/
no one cares about grammar off of the image side
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Anonymous2013-03-13 21:46
>>6
Your rage is my reason to live, your hatred is my nourishment.
Make a full sexp browser, one that taks all web standard frameworks and refactors them into sexp. Everything would be Scheme. Javascript will get converted (and corrected) to Scheme. Flash will get converted (and corrected) to Scheme. PDF, CSS, XML, HTML, everything, you name it and it will run as Scheme if supported. Making a preprocessor for all that would be enough to warrant a team's work and everyone could make use of their web2.0 enterprise knowledge. Or pick whatever language that everyone can work in, but Scheme should be the most widely known acceptable language around here.
>>14 why scheme, isn't C the most common
I could get the hang out of, but where could we start,
I always forget about lisp/scheme. can scheme handle processes/threads/windows/audio/graphics ? should we start off making the handlers?
>>17
The converting is to assimilate them and ultimately make them useless/a formality (set-mode-XML) and people will eventually skip the middle man and just write in sexps like they should.
>>16
C doesn't exactly meet the standard for what you want high level-wise, and the whole purpose really is provide an alternative to browsers written in sepples that run disgusting lovecraftian security compromising horrors such as javascript, java, and flash (which is a combo that gives people enough rope to hang other people with).
Brin, Zuckerberg, Eich, Guido, Leah, and all the corner rounders of the world will be sucking down parens if I have my way. FIOC would become "that SICP language that nobody uses or learns except when they take 6.001 at MIT." Web2.0 would be known as the dark web ages and people would laugh at the thought of "people actually wrote PHP/Python/JS for serious applications."
≥ But on a team its awesome,
I'm not convinced.
≥ people to talk to,
I'm out.
≥ every finishes things like they're nothing,
Even driven by deadlines and money this doesn't happen!
≥ massive projects completed in no time,
As exemplified by...?
≥ and if the project gets well known, then everyone gets credit, and gets their name out.
A false condition can imply anything.
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Anonymous2013-03-14 5:40
>>17 Get designing new web standards instead of reusing the shitty ones available.
Okay.
(article
(title "New Web Standard")
(author "/prog/")
(content (li
"sexp based"
"human readable"
"trivial to parse/spider")))
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Anonymous2013-03-14 11:00
>>20
I don't want neurotypicals to write S-exps. They'd start shitting up our private Internet.
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Anonymous2013-03-14 12:29
>>23 I like that for web code, its nice
to me it looks like you guys are only handling html..
i like this now ya'll are bein funny little dumplins; how cute are you!?
and why the fuck are there no greentext. and i've been on /g/ once i go on /b/ if you must know, >>27
>>33
Yes you have, and you're the reason trolling means nothing anymore. You try so hard to fit in that you're trolled even by the lowest of pretending-to-be-retarded trolls/shitposters.
>>36
Blatant shitposting on /prog/?
That sounds terrible!
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Anonymous2013-03-14 17:51
Have Nikita write up the GUI. Yes, in Symta. It'll give him something to do and a place to start and proceed to build from. He's the most capable one here who has the time and would do it, and in the process Iwe would have a ton of LoC of glorious Symta to oogle overlearn Symta from.
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Anonymous2013-03-14 18:07
>>38
I doubt you can sell a half-assed GUI on top of SDL, written in a prototype of languages no one knows or wants, which has SBCL and common lisp knowledge as dependency.
how are you guys quoting with the weird line thing?
and is it not to late to come up with new crappy standards?
to come up with something new, doesn't it have to be better than the existing it replaces?
and w00t 2 day long shitpost. dang /prog/ is slow paced.
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Anonymous2013-03-15 1:55
how are you guys quoting with the weird line thing?
and is it not to late to come up with new crappy languages?
to come up with something new, doesn't it have to be better than LISP?
and w00t 2 day long shitpost. dang /prog/ is slow paced.
66lel i hate le /g/ XD it's all faggots99 66lel i luve le /g/reentext is so >le RNDUM XDDDDD LEEEEEEL99 >>55, after greeting his friends at Reddit.
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Anonymous2013-03-15 14:16
| why the fuck are there no greentext. and i've been on /g/ once i go on /b/ if you must know
>i go on /b/
/b/ hates reddit
>been on /g/ once
i've only been on /g/ once for a reason. >>57 you remind me of that guy who was in a room called spaghetti pasta or some shit like that a while back from /r9k/
>>74 seems legit
>your asking for
js> 0 === ""
fales
js> 0 === []
false
js> 0 === [,]
false
js> 0 === [,,]
They are indeed the same, they are all empty data. but they are not the same data type. Thats the way it belongs
What's our purpose than? I'd say it would mean jack shit what it is, people built stupid bricks of pyramids for fucks sake, I'm just saying there must be a purpose, be it building pyramids or what ever, something to strive for. I'm sure there are folks just waiting for that purpose, heck I'm ready to build shit.
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Anonymous2013-03-16 16:17
first task ( assuming everyone agress with the browser idea )
write a lisp proposal using every spect of what the new code would look like.
You really don't even have to do the html/body/head shit. totally get rid of it. we are reinventing the wheel here.
>>85
You want someone to come up with a unique, complete, normalised sexp specification on the spot? Something dedicated working groups haven't been able to do properly in two decades?
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Anonymous2013-03-16 21:30
>>86 pretty much, but not complete, just enough to start with.
>>86
Just why the fuck do you think the W3C is part of the "dedicated working groups" you're talking about? A bunch of incompetent kikes suggesting XML and Enterprise 2.0 standards cannot come up with a unique, complete and normalized standard just like you say.
>>99
In the real world, tags like paragraph are abbreviated to <p>. Do they not teach Huffman coding in Discrete Mathematics at your university?
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Anonymous2013-03-17 16:58
>>101 They do, but we're not using html shit, look at everyone else >>100 I'm glad getting a hundred first time (posting|) on /prog/
Didn't think it was that easy.
What about "proguro"
>>102
You're like a naive child trying to contribute meaningfully but still succumbing to the urge to GET like a /b/a/b/y.
Anyway half the point of using s-expressions over html is higher information density (content:formatting ratio), and doing stupid things like "paragraph" everywhere ain't gonna solve shit.
>>105
PROTIP:using imprecision results in poor test results and confusion in interpretation. Learn to use precise language for successful transmission of information.
>>107
Perhaps you should read words in the context of the sentence surrounding them next time. Just a thought.
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:07
>>105
lmfao u retard, the abreviation of paragraph is pg.
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:10
>>107
Not if it's an agreed-upon set of abbreviations.
Oh wait, you're a LISPer, you don't know what "standardization" even fucking means.
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:14
>>110
Oh wait, you're a /g/er, you don't know what ``trolling'' even fucking means.
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:17
>>111
Sure; it means I talk straight until you get frustrated and go home.
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:18
>>112
What if I troll you until you get an aneurysm?
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:22
>>113
So far countertrolling seems to cause the most aneurysms around here. Just yesterday, I pointed out that making SICP jokes is an admission of laziness, and the thread vanished. (I think it vanished, anyway.)
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:24
>>114
That's because nobody can ever get sickp of SICP jokes.
The paragraph->p abbreviation is fine. What is not fine is using a tag for fucking paragraphs, you retards.
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:30
I think we are getting pretty close to perfect now guys.
(htmlSexp
(header
(script 'SchemeScript (import "scadTrack.lithp"))
(script 'SchemeScript (import "seo.lithp"))
(style 'SchemeSS (import "darkAndNasty.scss"))
(title "/g/ - Guro")
(author "Anonymous")
(metadata "guro porn example")
)
(background blue)
(body
(object "shockwave\flash" (import "adTop.swf"))
(paragraph
(emphasis
(underline
(overline
(span
(style "dark")
(strike-through
(blink
(superscript
(subscript
(spoiler
(strong
"Something like this perhaps"
)
)
)
)
)
)
(object "shockwave\flash" (import "adMiddle1.swf"))
(strong
(header-one
"Bigger Text right next to the other text.\t\r\n\0\\\"\""
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
(image
(import "BleedingCirno.jpg")
(alt-text "An ice fairy being volated by a thousand needles")
(allow-save? 'false)
)
(paragraph "response to this art?")
(span
(style "Nasty")
(input
(text-box 40 "Anonymous" 'kotehan)
(text-box 40 "" 'meiru)
(span
(style "hidden")
(label "IGNORE THIS OKAY")
(text-box 40 "'" 'email)
)
(text-area 300 300 "" 'comment)
(button
(onclick
(script 'inline
"(httpSexpRequest \"post.lithp\" (gettext 'kotehan) (gettext 'meiru) (gettext 'email) (gettext 'comment))"
)
)
)
)
(object "shockwave\flash" (import "adMiddle2.swf"))
(paragraph
(script 'inline "(define (reptext func text x t)
(cond
[(< x t) (and (func text) (reptext func text (+ x 1) t))]
[(= x t) (display \"\n\")]
[else 'DontBeAnAsshole]
)
)"
)
(script 'inline "(reptext (lambda (t) (display t)) \"script example\n\" 0 10)")
)
(object "shockwave\flash" (import "adBottom.swf"))
(footer
(copyright 'AllRightsReserved 'ViolatersWillBeSuedToTheFullestExtentOfTheLaw)
(donate "Consider buying a gurochan pass with Bitcoin")
)
)
)
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Anonymous2013-03-17 18:36
>>117
Ow. Okay, you've convinced me you need named parameters. Otherwise you'll have a bloody mess when you want to add event handlers on your form controls.
>>117
I love it! I love your posts! I read it five hundred times! Please keep updating the new standard!
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Anonymous2013-03-17 21:20
>>117 i really don't like how each of those has their own tag, i like more of >>120
using styling instead but the way you import is fine
Also we are getting rid of flash, flash can get the fuck out of here. adobe is such a bs company like apple
>>126
So what you're saying is, you don't know anything about the history of web technologies, and you want to reverse a bunch of critical compromises because the alternative appeals to you on aesthetic grounds.
>>124
All flash files would be prepocessed to the equivalent of a flash virtual machine run in Scheme, or Symta if no one but Nikita can do it. pfd would naturally be easier to abstract away into oblivion, and I really don't even fucking know why anyone uses it ever other than the affects of ruthless marketing to the shameless, aloof, and impressional managerial equivalent of corner rounders.
>>127
What compromises? The content is important, not the presentation. I want my desktop applications to have a uniform look, not all vying for my attention with a bunch of round corners or scrolling banners. Why the fuck would that be a good idea for the web?
>>132
You have, it's a shill doing damage control.
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Anonymous2013-03-19 22:46
>>132
Actually I know this is bad, but tbh I like what 132 is saying
basically what android does, provide, and let them decide.
make everything look the same unless the programmer
really really really wants to be a penis about it
>>134
Why is that bad? Everywhere apart from the WWW knows it's bad practice to combine content and presentation, let alone for content to dictate presentation.