I do product management. User guru, platform geek, constructive propagandist, agilista, funnel hacker and analytics junkie. I also WoW, Ruby and tweet.
Here's why one should be wise regarding Ruby:
- Ruby indulges obfuscation: Ruby has no keyword/optional arguments, so you'll have to use hash parameters as a substitute. This is an idiom that comes from Perl. Ugly, Perl-looking code, like proc {|obj, *args| obj.send(self, *args)} or (0..127).each { |n| p n.chr }, considered beautiful. Another confusing Perl borrowing are postfix `if` and `while` (line = file.readline while line != "needle" if valid line) and quirky variable names (partially due to naive environment design): @instance_var, @@class_var, CONSTANT_VAR, $global_var, :sym, &proc, $~[1], $!, $>, $@, $&, $+, $0, $~, $’, $`, $:, $., $* and $?. If A is [1,2,3] and B is [10,20,30], then A+B is [1,2,3,10,20,30], when you probably wanted [11,22,33]. If `a` and `b` are undefined, then "a = b" produces error, but "a = a" gives `nil`.
- Faulty syntax. Ruby cant distinguishing a method call from an operator: "a +b" can be both "a(+b)" and "a + b" - remove the space to the left of "+" or add a space to the right of "+", and it will be parsed as an addition. Same with "puts s *10", which is parsed as puts(s(*10)). Ruby's expressions terminate by a newline and you have to implicitly state that the expression is not over, using trailing + or \. That makes it easy to make a dumb syntactic mistake by forgeting to continue line. It also encourages putting everything onto a single line, producing messy looking code. A good amount of your code will consist of "begin end begin begin end end..." noise.
- Slow: JIT-compiling implementations exist, but they're still slow and incomplete, due to Ruby's complexity and bad design, which make Ruby difficult to optimize compared to other dynamic languages, like Lisp. For example, Ruby has to accomodate for somebody in another thread changing the definition of a class spontaneously, forcing compiler to be very conservative. Compiler hints, like `int X` from C/C++ or `declare (int X)` from Lisp, arent possible either.
- Ruby's GC is a naive mark-and-sweep implementation, which stores the mark bit directly inside objects, a GC cycle will thus result in all objects being written to, making their memory pages `dirty` and Ruby's speed proportional to the number of allocated objects. Ruby simply was not designed to support hundred thousand objects allocation per second. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what frameworks like Ruby on Rails do. The more objects you allocate, the more time you "lose" at code execution. For instance something as simple as 100.times{ ‘foo’ } allocates 100 string objects, because strings are mutable and therefore each version requires its own copy. A simple Ruby on Rails 'hello world' already uses around 332000 objects.
- OOP: Matz had a bit too much of the "OOP is the light and the way" philosophy in him, in effect Ruby doesn't have stand-alone functions and Ruby's blocks can't be used in exactly the same way as usual closures. Even high-order functions are attached to objects and produce verbose code: "names.map { |name| name.upcase }", instead of simple "map upcase names".
- Ruby (like most other scripting languages) does not require variables to be declared, as (let (x 123) ...) in Lisp or int x = 123 in C/C++. If you want a variable private to a block, you need to pick an unique variable name, holding the entire symbol table in your head. Ruby introduces new variables by just parsing their assignements, meaning "a = 1 if false; a" wont raise an error. All that means Ruby can't detect even a trivial typo - it will produce a program, which will continue working for hours until it reaches the typo. Local and global scopes are unintuitive. Certain operations (like regular expression operator) create implicit local variables for even more confusion.
- "def method_missing(*args)" is a blackhole, it makes language semantic overly cryptic. Debugging code that uses method_missing is painful: at best you get a NoMethodError on an object that you didn't expect, and at worst you get SystemStackError.
- Non-othogonal: {|bar| bar.foo}, proc {|bar| bar.foo}, lambda {|bar| bar.foo}, def baz(bar) bar.foo end - all copy the same functionality, where Lisp gets along with only `lambda`. Some Ruby's features duplicate each other: print "Hello", puts "Hello", $stdout<<"Hello", printf "Hello", p "Hello", write "Hello" and putc "Hello" -- all output text to stdout; there is also sprintf, which duplicates functionality of printf and string splicing. begin/do/then/end, {} and `:` also play role in bloating syntax, however, in some cases, precedence issues cause do/end and {} to act differently ({} binds more tightly than a do/end). More bloat comes from || and `or`, which serve the same purpose.
- Ruby as a language supports continuations via callcc keyword. Ruby's callcc is incredibly slow, implemented via stack copying. JRuby and IronRuby don't have continuations at all, and it's quite unlikely they will ever get them. There were also support breaches in mainline Ruby, where Ruby 1.9 has not supported continuations for a while. If you want your code to be portable, I'd suggest not using Ruby.
- Ruby was created "because there was no good scripting language that could handle Japanese text". Today it's mostly Rails hype and no outstanding feature, that makes the language, like the brevity of APL or simplicity and macros of Lisp. "There is some truth in the claim that Ruby doesn’t really give us anything that wasn’t there long ago in Lisp and Smalltalk, but they weren’t bad languages." -- Matthew Huntbach
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Anonymous2012-10-15 1:52
>>5
Is that kopipe? Good points >>5-san but lets not forget that this thread is about me XOXO
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Anonymous2012-10-15 1:58
>>6
That is why you'll never be a coder girl! Because you cant defend your favorite language.
Guys you realize this thread was started by the hacker who works in her same office, don't you.
Do you think she would venture even remotely close to /prog/?
She probably reads Wired and Techcrunch alone
This is a troll.
I mean, cmon, "agilista"? Ruby? "analytics junkie"?
The moment I read product management I knew.
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Anonymous2012-10-15 3:03
I am feeling pretty ashamed that my university admitted this person.
Also feeling pretty ashamed that we offer an M.A. in "Corporate Communications".
>>14
What is that? How to wrap fiber cables around buildings?
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Anonymous2012-10-15 3:14
Recommended electives for that Master's
Public Relations, Marketing, and Corporate Communications
Web Design**
Communicating in the Global Marketplace*
Processes of Reading & Writing *
Language, Power, and the Law
Writing for Multimedia
Environmental Rhetoric * (risk communication)
Narrative & Argument
It is pretty hilarious that there are people out there who would consider getting a vocational graduate degree in english.
>>17
Agilista, Rubyist, Analytics Junkie
Those terms are passing fashions. You appear to be way more concerned with networking and your career than you are with mathematics and computer science.
If you want respect, craft beautiful solutions to technically difficult problems and publish your work.
An example of what not to do if you want respect is publish an obscenity laden article, complete with strings of exclamation marks and all-caps, where you overreact to a political blog post written by an only marginally influential person.
>>19
You are beyond the point where I am able to help you.
Perhaps this will be a starting point if I am wrong about this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
If you had linked me to a project of yours demonstrating ability, that would be good evidence to counter my assertion.
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Anonymous2012-10-15 4:06
>>19 She has a solid chance of being molested or abused at an industry conference or in her office.
Yeah, and that's obviously why we should make it a law so that women can legally carry loaded handguns and tasers "to even things out" and "fight the privilege".
I suppose the risk of molestation and abuse is all other things equal a bigger concern for women than it is for men. Although culture does play a part, if I am a big scary bisexual attacker, who will I go for, the target that weighs 120lbs or the one that weighs 190lbs?
So I guess the answer is to tell the men at the office to go on a diet and get the women chugging mass complex and lifting weights. Then things will be even.
But seriously, it is worth it to learn martial arts if these thoughts keep you preoccupied.
>>19
You got it all wrong; I don't hate you for being a woman, or female for that matter. I hate you for being a Mac-loving art-over-science neurotypical piece of shit that values ,,social web'' bullshit. I actually wish you were a male so I could kick you in the balls. Want to impress us? Implement a web server or a Lisp dialect in Brainfuck. Otherwise go back to your shitty friends and talk over a glass of wine about the cloud and social media while completely disregarding the obvious privacy and security issues.
Also, I mildly hate you for using CAPS LOCK instead of strong and emphasis tags.
>>1 I do product management. User guru, platform geek, constructive propagandist, agilista, funnel hacker and analytics junkie. I also WoW, Ruby and tweet. Why do you hate women guys?
We don't hate women. But there are a quite a few good reasons to hate you in particular (regardless of your gender).
I do product management. User guru, platform geek, constructive propagandist, agilista, funnel hacker and analytics junkie.
What the hell is this shit!
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Anonymous2012-10-15 5:17
>>35
Research at premier Women's Studies departments across the U.S. has found that sexists typically respond with hostility when confronted about their sexism.
You are a sexist.
>>37 Research at premier Women's Studies departments across the U.S. has found that sexists typically respond with hostility when confronted about their sexism.
The word ,,typically'' shows that it is not always the case, and the study (according to your statement) says absolutely nothing about how non-sexists respond to false allegations of sexism. You are an illogical piece of shit; moreover, you are a sexist for assuming that men/males criticize you because of your sex+gender as opposed to the actual cited reasons, among which is that you are yet another annoying social-media-loving facebook-using dilettante who doesn't know jack shit about mathematics, computer science, cryptography, software patents, reflections on trusting trust or the right to privacy and freedom of speech. You probably think OpenID is the best thing since sliced bread. OK YOU FUQIN ANGERED AN EXPERT PROGRAMMER THIS IS/prog/ YOU ARE ALLOWED TO POST HERE ONLY IF YOU HAVE ACHIEVED SATORI
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IF ITS NOT DONE YOU HAVE TO
TOO BAD RUBY ON RAILS IS SLOW AS FUCK BBCODE AND ((SCHEME)) ARE THE ULTIMATE LANGUAGES
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User guru, platform geek, constructive propagandist, agilista, funnel hacker and analytics junkie
In other words, no skills to speak of
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Anonymous2012-10-15 14:10
>>55
How exactly is judging a member of an arbitrary group by the actions of other members of the same group logical? And how exactly is it logical to tell people what they should or shouldn't be doing based on mere statistical correlations? There's a difference between telling a cripple they can't walk and telling a woman she can't code.
>>84
Who said you liked ponies, fagshit? I was giving an example of a franchise that's a meme. But you read a little bit too much into that, didn't you? Maybe there's something there you haven't come to terms with.
>>88
Here we see >>86 talking to himself. He has become so enveloped by trolling that he even gets trolled by one of his own personalities. He is what Sigmund Schlomo Freud described as a ``self-hating post-troll''.
>>103
A combination of medium to high social skills, and very low emotional and mathematical intelligence. It's about the same as the ,,ban privacy/cryptography/general-purpose-computers/etc because THINK OF THE CHILDREN'' crowd, only with a different rhetoric.
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Anonymous2012-10-16 13:27
>>104
what is wrong with banning crypto? it is used by pedophiles and other criminals. at the very least the government should be given escrow keys.
>>104 what is wrong with banning kitchen knives? they are used by pedophiles and other criminals. at the very least the government should be given remote kitchen knife deactivation devices.
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Anonymous2012-10-16 13:41
>>105
Leaving aside that crypto is just mathematics and banning mathematics is senseless, let's look at the issue from a practical point of view. Oh and forget about key escrow because it's fundamentally flawed (Google is your friend).
Suppose crypto is legal, and inaccessible to the general public (the current situation). Then:
- expert criminals use it, since they have the money/power to coerce geeks into teaching them how to
- the criminally insane (e.g. paedophiles) use it, since they don't want to get caught
- sheeple don't use it, because it's inaccessible
- government uses it for internal communications
- secret services can't really find any criminals or sick fucks by digital means (because they use crypto, and because they have "better" things to do such as sparking wars abroad and maintaining dictatorships in African countries oh look they're supporting child abuse...), so they spy on the sheeple instead, hoping to justify cancellation of privacy (as well as their massive budgets) by cornering a few low-level criminals or sick fucks; the cancellation of the right to privacy is done for the purpose of detecting annoying activists and getting rid of them; since they are part of the sheeple, most of them don't know how to use crypto so they can't defend themselves -- chilling effect on potential activists
- law enforcement uses classical means of investigation, sometimes given helpful hints by techies
Suppose crypto is legal, and so accessible that an untrained monkey could use it. Then:
- expert criminals use it, since it's accessible
- the criminally insane use it, since they don't want to get caught (no change here!)
- sheeple use it (and protect their right to privacy), because it's accessible
- government uses it for internal communications (no change there!)
- secret services can't really find any criminals or sick fucks by digital means (no change here!), except now they can't really spy on sheeple either; best-case scenario, major budget cuts when people realize they're not really doing anything useful, or good for that matter; activists can't be detected and eliminated because they use crypto so they are empowered vis-a-vis the secret services; activism flourishes; activists organize and encourage cowardly sheeple to report criminals and sick fucks without fear of retribution or stalking laws issues
- law enforcement uses classical means of investigation, sometimes given helpful hints by techies (no change there since the criminals and sick fucks are using crypto anyway); extra hints given by "not technically legal" activist sources in order to get warrants
Suppose crypto is outlawed. Then:
- expert criminals use it (in conjunction with undetectable steganography), since they have the money/power to coerce geeks into teaching them how to
- the criminally insane use it (in conjunction with undetectable steganography), since they don't want to get caught
- sheeple don't use it, because oh no it's illegal; most activists are afraid to use cryptography so they don't
- government makes an exception for itself and uses it for internal communications (citing "national security issues")
- secret services can't really find any criminals or sick fucks (no change here!, see reasons above), but they can spy on everyone else and make lists of people that get in their way or know too much; illegal operations flourish since activists can be effectively detected and silenced
- law enforcement uses mass surveillance, with no hints from (disgruntled) techies; mass surveillance is ineffective since criminals and sick fucks don't really care about the law and use (undetectable) crypto anyway, but hey now we have a database of what every law-abiding citizen does, better not let that fall into the wrong hands hmm
>>118
Yeah I totally agree, encryption makes it very hard for me to hack into my female neighbours' facebook accounts and masturbate to their pictures. If cryptography were to be banned (thus outlawing wireless security), I could even hack into their Windows computers and activate their microphone/webcam without their knowledge (e.g. when they're undressing).
>>118
Key escrow sounds great, I work at the police department and I'd just love getting my hands on your keys so I can see your female feminist pussy ;]
who cares about free speech! free speech is the right to voice sexist opinions. free speech is the right to want to opress women. go to hell free speech!
lol FFP managed to reject freedom of expression, the right to privacy and the right to cryptography all in the same night, using zero logical arguments, achieving a conciseness factor of ∞ over her his debate opponents.
>>141 Keep dreaming about female world domination and you'll spend the rest of your days outside reality.
Most importantly, they'll be advocating sexism while fighting sexism. What the fuck.
>>144
The only self-consistent interpretation of feminism is gender-blindness, which is about as equal as you can possibly get. Just because a bunch of idiots think feminism is female sexism won't change the definition.
>>147 "
It's `` and '', read your ASCII, ``faggot''.
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Anonymous2012-10-17 17:01
>>147
We here in HR call it equal opportunity employment.
Come joins us now at MW + MWx10%, and make the working environmet a better place. Just sign with menstrual blood here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here
>>145
No, language is fluid, definitions change over time, you obviously don't ever go out into the real world or anywhere else where feminists today are and spew their sexist bullshit, and never have. Feminism has always been about female supremacy, and it always will be, it's in the fucking name you tard.
You can go ahead and think it equates to ``gender blindness'', but you'll be the only one in all honesty.
>>157
How can your name be Anonymous? Now we'll have to change the word ``Anonymous'' to something else, or you're no longer Anonymous. Terrible!
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Anonymous2012-10-17 23:21
>>153
I don't give a shit, I'm a mathematician and definitions don't change. Feminism is gender-blindness, regardless of the fact that over 95% of the people who call themselves ,,feminist'' are actually retarded female sexists.
>>168
You can use a Lisp language to do web stuff. It's reasonably faster than Python, and it's perfect for templating, text manipulation and other web stuff.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 14:27
>>171
Are any real websites written in Lisp? Honestly. Facebook? Twitter? Google? Yahoo?
Nope. All use PHP.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 14:54
>>172
Reddit used to be written in Lisp. Then they found out it was a crappy language and rewrote it in Python.
>>173
No, they found out rewriting it in Python would make it more easy to mantain, because not everyone can write Lisp.
>>172
So, if something shitty is popular, it becomes good? Also, what the fuck are you trying to make? Some shitty le web cloud social media startup? Might as well learn node.js and fuck off back to Hacker Jews.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 15:35
So, if something shitty is popular, it becomes good?
No. If something is good, it generally becomes popular. PHP has it's flaws, but I shudder at the thought of building and maintaining any sort of complex or dynamic website with a language like Lisp. If it's some five-page, cookie-cutter informational site, sure. But otherwise, I'm modularizing that shit with PHP and doing front-end with JS.
You're ``developing'' a ``scalable web solution'' and you're going to ask Y Combinator to fund your startup.
Why don't you fuck off back there?
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Anonymous2012-10-21 17:30
>>181
I'm not developing shit. I'm speaking generally about web projects I'm hired to do. Why in the fuck would I use Lisp to develop any website. No advantages. Big fucking mess.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 18:03
>>179
No, it's wonderfull. Take a look at clojure. Nothing is as good as sexpressions for html templates.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 18:05
yu-yu-use it wisely prog
(defmethod char-set ((str string))
(let ((table (make-hash-table)))
(loop for i from 0 to (- (length str) 1)
do (setf (gethash (char str i) table) t))
table))
(defmethod escape ((str string) (escape-char character) (bad-char-set hash-table))
(apply #'string-concat
(loop for i from 0 to (- (length str) 1)
collect (let ((ch (char str i)))
(if (gethash ch bad-char-set)
(coerce (list escape-char ch) 'string)
(string ch))))))
(defclass trusted-string () ((value :accessor value :initarg value)))
>>185
It's not so bad in an academic setting, but corporate jobs like that really are shit.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 18:31
Medicine is cool as a hobby and all. But if you're a doctor for a living, your job is shit and you are shit.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 18:34
>>185
Coming from someone who's obviously never been gainfully employed. Of course you'd be a self-loathing programmer. I'd probably be one too and blame it on my chosen career path.
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Over 1000 Thread2012-10-21 18:47
This thread has over 1000 replies.
You can't reply anymore.
>>195
I'm not employed by the community. What was the point of quoting that, by the way?
I simply make software I like making (school/shop/store management software) and I try to sell them in small cities. They usually don't make you sign contracts, pay "license costs" that happen to be enough for keeping my lifestyle (around 100EUR/month) and you don't have deadlines, USE JAVA AND DESIGN PATTERNS XD or cubicles that smell like curry.
>>198
There's millions of people that would disagree.
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Anonymous2012-10-21 19:53
Don't you people have better things to do, such as discussing how to defend digital civil rights such as the right to privacy, to cryptography and to steganography, as well as the banishment of software patents?
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Anonymous2012-10-21 19:59
>>199
But they can't be heard living all the way out in Africa.
Shanley seems like a dumb slut who thinks she knows /frog/ because she learned ruby. she has yet to produce anything actually useful, and will continue to not produce useful things. she probably uses eventmachine to get things done, doesn't know what actors are, and has no idea how to work with parallel systems.
It's on the front page because Shanley Kane doesn't want to pay for ad campaigns so she just promotes herself this way. She is the face of anti-brogramming(tm). Just paying for her designer clothing
>>268 Convert her to lisp and cleanse the world of eventmachine sin?
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I haven’t been to a single tech event in a single city where I couldn’t do a conference call in the women’s bathroom. Why? It’s quiet in there.
The underrepresentation of women in the startup community is at a fucking monumental global scale. All tech communities I’ve encountered similarly struggle with issues like outsourcing, lack of racial diversity, lack of accessible education, prevalence of elitism and social media douchebags.
I have a lot of hope that emerging startup scenes will take the opportunity to create a better model that is both more inclusive and diverse. So as much as new scenes should try to emulate the conditions and successes of others, they also shouldn’t forget they have the chance to build the world anew.
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Anonymous2012-11-08 15:12
>>287
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU APOLOGIZING? I MADE THE TESTS YOU SHITHEAD.I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU KIKE
The underrepresentation of Native Americans in the startup community is at a fucking monumental global scale. All tech communities I’ve encountered similarly struggle with issues like outsourcing, lack of racial diversity, lack of accessible education, prevalence of elitism and social media douchebags.
I have a lot of hope that emerging startup scenes will take the opportunity to create a better model that is both more inclusive and diverse. So as much as new scenes should try to emulate the conditions and successes of others, they also shouldn’t forget they have the chance to build the world anew.
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Anonymous2012-11-09 0:56
The underrepresentation of cunts in the startup community is at a fucking monumental global scale. All tech communities I’ve encountered similarly struggle with issues like outsourcing, lack of niggers, lack of literate people, prevalence of competency and social media douchebags.
>>293
Competent people are also underrepresented and you don't see me bitching about it.
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Anonymous2012-11-09 1:40
>>293
I'm simply pointing out that underrepresentation of any slice of society is always at a fucking monumental global scale." why should any kind of effort be directed at eliminating the underrepresentation of just a single group of them, aka womyn?
And no, I'm not a straight white male, I'm a straight ASIAN male.
Shanley why are you doing this? Are you looking for a /prog/ boyfriend/mentor/daddydom to teach you the way to satori?
Listen Shanley, I notice you are jewish, so I'll have you know that you're not good enough to have the Sussman-sama as a mentor, you'll have to try someone who isn't Abelson Good, someone like Cirno who is retarded. I seriously hope Jewkari Kikekumo isn't the only 2hu u wuld fuk, Shanly.
>>354
Really? Prove it. Get a large number of children, and raise them in a gender-free environment. See if girls start preferring pink frilly dresses and suck at math.
Shanley, I will fuck and/or rape you if/until you'll stop this shit. That is how annoying you are, Shanley, driving a devout kike hating muslim like me, Ahmed, to give my superior arab cock to you, a dirty jewess. Be grateful, Shenlay.
>>394 follow me on le hackerjews and twitter xD
I can follow you without any issues, and so can every governmental agency out there thanks to your usage of unaudited closed-source software on your computer.
>>1 I do product management. User guru, platform geek, constructive propagandist, agilista, funnel hacker and analytics junkie. I also WoW, Ruby and tweet.
Do you do GFE, DATY, BBBJ, DFK, ATM and MSOG?
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Anonymous2012-11-28 17:24
GET FUCKED EVERY DAY/ GIRL FRIEND EXPERIENCE
DINING AT THE Y / CUNNILINGUS
BAREBACK BLOWJOB / DAFUQ IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM A BJ
DEEP FRENCH KISSING
couldn't figure out ATM unless its at the moment
MULTILE SHOTS ON GIRL / CUMMING MORE THAN ONCE ON HER
I don't see how our opinion(s) of women have anything to do with you, a man. And no, you're not "actually a girl"; if you were, you wouldn't be on the internet. True fact.
- You are annoying.
- You are a jew.
- You are ugly.
- You think Ruby good.
- You haven't read your SICP today.
- You don't know Symta.
- You will never achieve satori.
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Anonymous2013-01-01 16:50
>>529
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>EGIN SHOTGUN
>CRYPTO-PEDOPHILE
>CANT INTO PROGRAMMING
>THINK READING MAN PAGES FROM 1970 IS PROGRAMMING
>BE A RETARD
>SHITPOST 24/24 NOT A SINGLE POST ABOUT PROGRAMMING
this thread has been threadstopped. you can't reply anymore.
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Anonymous2013-01-08 14:38
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
What the fuck is this shit, she has some ugly tiled myspace-like bacground image? Over 4000 followers? How do I send a private message or highlight someone on twitter?
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Anonymous2013-01-08 14:54
Sign up to use Twitter on the web.
Enter your phone number:
I don't have a phone, I don't have a Twitter account. Oh but there's shanley.kane@gmail.com ...
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Anonymous2013-01-08 15:12
>>547 gtfo out of my thread, this is now a bump thread.
when shanley herself comes and posts a timestamped, nude apology, I will stop bumping this thread. she must repent
>>552
Use a google voice number.
You can also use google voice numbers to fool google.
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Anonymous2013-01-08 17:13
bump
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Anonymous2013-01-10 23:36
bumping for bumping
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Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Name:
Anonymous2013-01-10 23:49
Guys, I'm crying right now.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
Just looking at her picture makes me feel something strange inside. I guess you could call it "love". I'm in love with shanley. I've lost all interest in girls, besides her.
shanley is all I think about all day, every day. I really do cry myself to sleep every night thinking about how I'll never be with her. If only she knew I existed in this life, if only she knew my deep profound love for her. I know that will never happen though. That is the thought that makes me so sad when I look at her. I'll never be with her, but I'll continue to love her until the day I die.
>>105,118,123,130
I have but one question; are you lel-cunt? Such trolling mastery is rare and memorable.
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Anonymous2013-01-30 19:03
There definitely will be a part 2 guys, I already mentioned that. When shanley comes back and does a strip apology, the thread will die permanently, until then, we wait and bump
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Anonymous2013-01-30 19:07
>>904
Try to put her name in the title this time, I thought your thread was about Leah Culver the first 800 posts.
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Anonymous2013-01-30 20:02
>>904
Who the fuck cares about a shitty thread that's going to be outbumped by the next 5 threads? Unless you have a dedicated spambot to fill the front page with 30 active threads, nobody is going to give a fuck.
By the way, even Leah the Jewess is better than this horse faced cunt, and that's saying a lot.
I still don't get why that retard spams the board with such inane bullshit, but it's not like I really give a fuck.I still don't get why that retard spams the board with such inane bullshit, but it's not like I SHALOMreally give a fuck.I still don't get why that retard spams the board with such inane bullshit, but it's not like I really give a fuck.I still don't get why that retard spams the board with such inane bullshit, but it's not like I really give a fuck.I still don't get why that retard spams the board with such inane bullshit, but it's not like I really give a fuck.I still don't get why that retard spams the board with such inane bullshit, but it's not like I really give a fuck.I still don't get why that retard spams the board with such inane bullshit, but it's not like I really give a fuck.