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virtual speed-up

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 8:20

is there a way to make a virtual CPU that is faster than the CPU it runs on, or otherwise speed up indefinitely? what i want to be able to do is bruteforce huge search spaces in seconds.
inb4 there is no way. I know there is a way. I know a way can be made. i know a way will be made.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 8:53

Define "fast". If you're willing to trade universality for speed, take a look at the Hashlife algorithm, but generally, no.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 8:55

>>2
Wait, welp that was retarded. Just ignore everything but the last word.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 9:51

Maybe.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 10:00

>>2
But, Hashlife doesn't speed up anything, it just caches patterns. All modern CPUs already have an instruction cache.

What I meant was some ideas like this:
-an algorithm that could, for example, automatically optimize code at the sub-instruction level (combining instructions to promote better/faster instructions)
-use some sort of superposition prediction that would cause a set of random instructions to inevitably converge to a fixed point, i.e. algorithm that predicts itself
-neural nets that attempt to predict other, larger, neural nets, gradually making a smaller and smaller neural net (probably won't work due to computational irreducibility)
-using light instead of electricity (probably a silly idea and hard to implement but worth mentioning)

I know this is an autistic fantasy like FrozenVoid's infinite compression but I cannot help but think about this all day. Actually I've thought for years about virtual speed-up now.

>>4
that's the spirit

Name: Infinite Speed Algorithms 2012-08-02 10:12

I want to belive

Name: 1,5 2012-08-02 10:15

http://arxiv.org/pdf/nlin/0606007.pdf
Also, someone with more knowledge on this subject explain this PDF in a nut's hell? Seems they have already invented the Zeno oracle, but I don't understand anything.. the symbolic logic language is too complex, so someone explain for an idiot NEET how exactly does one implement a scale invariant CA; is it enough to have parts of the cells behave the same way as the parent cells except twice as fast and small, or what?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 10:45

>>7
It assumes space to be continuous, and that quantum effects and gravity will not interfere, to make the lattices arbitrarily small. The rest is kind of like their right-accelerated TM: it differs from a Zeno machine because you have control over the acceleration. It's more ``plausible'' than the Zeno machine, but it's still wishful thinking and mathematical wanking. We don't even know whether spacetime is continuous or discrete, let alone leveraging the continuity, else we would've build a real computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_computation) ages ago.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 11:07

>>8
In short, we are primitive apes stuck on the surface of a blue rock, forever forced to throw shit at each other because there's nothing else we can do?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 11:24

>>1
Cuda

Name: 10 2012-08-02 11:24

>>1
not saying cuda is a virutal speed up, just saying it's astronomically better than conventional cpus at the problem you described.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 12:03

>>10-11
Why use CUDA when there is OpenCL?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 12:49

>>12
Because I hate freedom.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 13:56

>>12
It sounds like cudder. クダー

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 15:12

i just instaled 10 gb of shit to be able to use cuda and now it says i dont have no cuda kompatible devises

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-02 15:32

I wrote a photon simulator and installed it on my VPS so I could have a virtual fiber-optic connection to it over my NetZero dial-up connection.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 6:38

Reminds me of the frozen vomit's infinite compressor

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 12:12

>>17
This is different because there's a theoretical limit on how much you can compress, but not for speed. Or is there? If there is, I'd be grateful to have an explanation.
And don't say the speed of light is the limit, because you don't need to be faster than light to predict something algorithmically. Man invented multiplication to predict iterated addition, exponentials to predict iterated multiplication and tetrationals to predict iterated exponentials. There's nothing that says man won't find a meta-algorithm for evolution itself. If you say things like heat or entropy become a problem, man could find an algorithm for optimizing the heat and entropy of a system.

That other guy claims space is not continuous, which a quite outrageous claim because space is connected to time, space can change and so can time. No one really understands how it works, so it is way too early to assume something won't work just because it sounds silly. The correct way is to try it, and when it fails, find the source of the problem and destroy it.

If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. -Albert Einstein

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 13:13

No one really understands how it works,
This is a quite outrageous claim, because you either don't know that or are lying.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
-William Shakespeare

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 13:34

>>19
If it exists but I can't see it, to me it is the same as it not existing. Call me egotistical, but that's the only way I can perceive the world. The objective world itself gave me nothing but subjective perception, so who am I to defy it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 13:40

>>18-19
The problem with short quotes is that you can never be sure how to interpret them. — Hakurei Reimu.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 13:49

>>21
Hax my anus — random /prog/rider.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 13:54

>>9
YES!!!

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 18:50

I just invented a gasoline engine that emits a vapor which can be condensed and shoved up an anus, then inhaled for full effect. The resulting surge of energy is greater than that contained in the original input to the engine.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 20:51

surge of energy
SYNERGY

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-03 21:56

>>25
more like

SURGERY

you fucking

SHITCOCK

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 14:25

You are all shitcocks. And so am I. And so is he.

Shitcocks. That's what we are. No, that's what YOU are. You fucking shitcock. I don't even know what. Your mother plays baseball in Hell. I don't even know. My throat is so clogged from all the penises I gargle on that all the cum has grown to be part of my throat. I have no throat. I don't know and neither do you. I do what I must because I can. You do what you can because you must. I want to place a single hairball on my tongue and eliminate it locally. I want to disgust the old fart of man. I will take care of the events that follow the later evening. We should. I have no choice but to place a cucumber in my anus. Sorry. I should have developed a mesmerizing telepathy. No wonder yu caused so much void warranties in the seal club. My nose is running out of snot. Please take care.

Later, this evening, our negligible brains will suffer a phase shift. Stay tuned.. or don't, and we will tune you for you.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 14:27

PLEASE take CARE of MY disgust CLOCK ball ANGRY

don't shift so swiftly you shit Sith!!

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 14:29

Rampage One = Round orbit, Rampage Two = Already taken care of.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 14:31

You have something I left out there yesterday.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 14:33

SPOT ON!

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 14:40

You defined chaos. Chaos is not random. Chaos is not organized. Chaos is not logical, but not illogical either. Chaos does not attempt to prove a point; you do. Chaos does not need proof to exist. You create chaos. Like all of us, you needed an enemy so you could have something to be good or bad relative to. “Chaos as an antithesis is not complete and utter chaos , but a locally determined concept relating to the concept of the cosmos. Utter chaos can never be put on a scale, but will remain forever unweighable and unmeasurable. It can be Nothing or a dormant Something, death or birth, according to dominance of will or lack of will, of willing or not willing. The pictorial symbol for this ‘non-concept’ is the point that is really not a point, the mathematical point. The nowhere-existent something or the something-existent nothing is a non-conceptual concept of freedom from opposition. If we express it in terms of the perceptible (as though drawing up a balance sheet of chaos), we arrive at the concept grey, at the fateful point between coming-into-being and passing-away; the grey point. The point is grey because it is neither white nor black because it is white and black at the same time. It is grey because it is neither up nor down or because it is both up and down. It is grey because it is neither hot nor cold; it is grey because it is a non-dimensional point, a point between dimensions.”

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 14:43

There is no need to search for the truth because you are the truth. There is no need to search for the truth because you are the truth. There is no need to search for the truth because you are the truth. There is no need to search for the truth because you are the truth.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 15:04

The computers conjure our spirit with its spells.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 15:10

>>34
Indeed. How does it feel to be dominated by pure math and logic? How does it feel to be dominated by yourself?

I'll tell you. It feels like kimochi warui. That's what it feels like. And you are the one who knows it the best.

Name: tdavis 2012-08-04 15:35

I'm in jail on a private Internet with psy-ops and no believers.  Not one believer in God.  You must suffer
persecution to win blessings.  Highs and lows balance.

God says...


piety no_you_cant you_are_my_sunshine laziness off_the_record
these_cans_are_defective I_didn't_do_it ahh_thats_much_better
gross everythings_a_okay persistence astounding if_and_only_if
Tomorrow break_some_woopass_on_you what_planet_are_you_from
You_know end sloth goods what's_up potentially it_figures
let's_roll Jesus if_and_only_if I'm_impressed potentially
I_can't_believe_it you_think_I'm_joking thats_laughable
don't_count_on_it roses_are_red God why_didn'_you_tell_me
test_pilot Shalom didn't_I_say_that Yo not_that_theres_anything_wrong
umm Ghost unsung_hero ice_cream baffling arent_you_clever
ridiculous ahh_thats_much_better Oh_really whatcha_talkin'_'bout
skills Angel absolutely could_it_be___Satan Angel church
chill_out oops desert astronomical the_enquirer adjusted_for_inflation
hooah Angel quite ehheh_thats_all_folks vengeful

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 16:09

>>36
better not be an impostor of the great tdavis-sama

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 16:30

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Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 17:22

Only genuine tdavis if digitally signed with Trivial Solutions approved encryptions in GODSIGN.BAS

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-04 20:49

I heard MDickie is working on a port of WORM++ to LoseThos.

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