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JavaScript OS

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 1:54

Suppose you have all the security crap sorted out.
What would be an obstacle to creating a JavaScript OS?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 2:12

The fact that JavaScript does not run natively on any machine without an interpreter.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 2:26

>>2 Its would be a Network OS. It run through a thin client or a PC or even be a cluster.
like http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/03/1910207
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 2:30

Fucking read SICP for fuck's sake. There's a fucking good reason why it is the fucking wizard book.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 2:41

>>4 SICP is a newbie book about basic programming concepts.
There is 0 useful knowledge there for anyone who has even minimal experience.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 2:45

>>5
nonsense.
i had been taking software dev classes for atleast 6 months until i read SICP - it taught me about recursion (among other things)

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 2:46

>>5
If that's how you view SICP, then nobody in the world can help you. The answers to so many questions are revealed in this sacred text.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 2:47

>>6 So recursion what?its inefficient,much better implemented via loops. 

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 2:51

>>6
>>7
Stop replying to invisible posts!!!

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 2:51

For god's sake, stop taking this thread seriously.
There may be a dicussion about OS somehow related to javascript, but __not__ with that frozen dick.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 2:55

Recursion is like outsourcing - you lose time in favor of price.
(The price is code density)
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 2:58

>>8
recursion is an important programming concept.
or maybe javascript programmers don't feel the need to learn anything abstract; all you need is syntax, right?
abstract concepts are never relevant to programming, are they?

enjoy your life as a typical ignorant web developer who never learns anything past HTML and childrens' scripting languages

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:06

>>12 Recursion is easily understood. The temptation to simplify algorithms with it is pervasive.
 I understand the motivations to increase code density. Its “elegant” and “concise” but its implementation destroys performance. Consider that every recursion (which is not tail-recursive) carries the penalty of
1.Function call
2.Parameter evaluation
3.Function logic overhead(it executes through code supplied by parameters)
4.Context store and load. Every recursion must return to context. It takes time.
5.Waste of stack space.As above, the calls,especially nested ones will pollute the stack if used in any programs. 
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:10

>>13
this is NOT about using recursion,
this is about knowing what recursion is.
you say that it's better to be ignorant of recursion than to know what it is.
you are a sad pathetic individual indeed.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:11

>>14 Recursion is simply using the same function inside itself to return some parameter.
Nothing magical about it, even kids can understand it in one lesson.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:13

>>15
the complexity of recursion is completely irrelevant.
this is about the fact that you claim ignorance is better than knowledge. quit trying to change the subject; it won't work

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:15

>>16 I don't claim ignorance is better then knowledge.
I claim that this knowledge is useless and degrading performance of your programs.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:24

>>17
I claim that this knowledge is useless and degrading performance of your programs.
oh really?
well maybe i can speak Korean; however; that knowledge has never affected my programs - this is because i've never used it when writing a program. i could easily do the same thing with recursion, now couldn't i?

the difference between you and me is that when i sit down to read/maintain some source code written by someone long gone, i can understand it.
you sit there scratching your head trying to make sense of concepts you never bothered learning because you thought they were "useless"

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:25

>>18 You're wrong in this case, because i understand recursion. I choose not to use it.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:30

>>19
that was my point, idiot.
now you're just switching sides because you have lost, and you know it.
HAND&GTFO

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:32

>>20 I have never claimed that "ignorance is better then knowlegde".
If you have arguments, you have to provide a quote.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:35

>>21
you claimed that ignorance of recursion is better than knowledge of it.
the shortness of your attention span is incredible

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:39

>>22 You misinterpret my words in poor attempts at trolling. see >>8  
So recursion what?its inefficient,much better implemented via loops.


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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:40

>>22
This is why we ignore troll posts

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:41

>>22
0/10

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:42

>>23
nope, you said:
There is 0 useful knowledge there for anyone who has even minimal experience.
about SICP. then i said that i learned about recursion from it.
you then proceed to tell me why recursion is useless and how i shouldn't have bothered learning about it - completely ignoring the fact that you are wrong

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:42

Why the fuck would you want to write an OS in Javascript?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:43

are you from Finland FV?

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:44

>>26
The fact is SICP is useless. Even Sussman himself admitted it.
see http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1236032199/1-40

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:46

>>29
wikipedia said it, so it must be true

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:48

>>29
10/10. Always of the highest calibur.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:51

>>31
please don't rate yourself

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 3:54

SICP a newbie programmer's book which introduces the concept of recursion.
Whatever “magical knowledge” you claim it contains it evidently the same as any other entry-level programming book. 

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:58

Whatever “magical knowledge” you claim it contains it evidently the same as any other entry-level programming book
Have you read any 'entry-level' programming books recently, they are mostly god awful and an uninspiring read

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 3:59

>>33
i am not one of those people.
reading a book does not mean i'm fanatical about it.
however, SICP does contain knowledge; a fact that you so vehemently deny.
why do you keep trying to change the subject?
is it because you're a namefag and you don't want to lose face?
you're really that ashamed that you've been beaten?
you are a true coward and your mind is weak

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:00

>>33
You bring up a non-sensical topic. You would understand why it is non-sense after completing all of SICP.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:00

>>33
You bring up a non-sensical topic in >>1. You would understand why it is non-sense after completing all of SICP.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:04

>>34 The SICP is just such an “entry-level” book for Scheme.
I don't find verbose prose and musings on programming inspiring.
I like to see raw data and code. With benchmarks for each implementation.
Obviously i don't have time for reading garbage.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:04

Why do we even accept that he is the real FV. I want a blogpost for proof

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:04

>>36
>>37
that was lame; can't be even slightly more convincing?
your last ditch attempts to discredit me only serve to make my penis harder and make yourself appear foolish and pathetic

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:06

>>38
hahahaahahahahaahahaahaha.
this coming from a javascript 'programmer'.
priceless

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:08

The SICP is just such an “entry-level” book for Scheme.
I don't find verbose prose and musings on programming inspiring.
I like to see raw data and code. With benchmarks for each implementation.
Obviously i don't have time for reading garbage.

This is why nobody can ever help you. You already know the answers.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:11

>>38
lol, js = "raw data and code".
so you have one of those new CPUs that stores all it's data as type var?

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:11

>>42  I just want opinions of /prog/.

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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:14

>>42
LOL I TROL YOU

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:15

>>44
Liar.
You never listen to /prog/; you just wait for your turn to talk.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:18

>>46 I have the right to discuss anything you bring up.
Your opinion isn't a “unquestionable truth” which should be accepted by default. 

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:20

>>47
Again you fail to actually listen. You must be a troll, because a real person could never be this ignorant.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:20

>>47
EXPERT FROZENTROLL POST

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:21

>>48 I listen and i reply. You have difficulty accepting my replies and understanding flaws in your arguments.

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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:22

>>49
We have difficulty in accepting your trolls as serious replies as you show no EXPERT KNOWLEDGE of the topic

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:24

>>51 The facts strongly speak in my favor:
 SICP is newbie programmers book.
 Recursion is horribly inefficient.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:24

>>3
What the hell is a network os?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:26

>>50
you do not listen.
otherwise, why would most of your posts be completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand?
and why do you constantly switch sides in an argument once you begin to lose?
you must be a troll
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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:27

>>54 These posts are direct replies to your arguments.


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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:28

>>53
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_operating_system


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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:30

>>54
your previous ones were not.
you still not have addressed the fact that most people can learn something from reading SICP. i am living proof against your argument that SICP is completely useless to anyone who knows anything about programming.

please explain how i did not actually learn anything from reading SICP - and how you are somehow right

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:32

>>52
SICP is newbie programmers book.
Actually, it's a newbie computer science book. Computer Science isn't about computers or programming languages necessarily. It is about algorithms and computation.
Recursion is horribly inefficient.
It may not be the most efficient use of a computers time, but using the same logic function calls which push the values of registers onto the stack are inefficient. If we accept that, then we may as well all return to programming in machine code.(An assembler would be a waste of precious memory)

The fact of the matter, is that computers are always getting faster due to the endevours of engineers (you're welcome), and that a few cycles can be expended for ease of programming. Now, if you are still going to bitch and moan about `lol inefficient`, then consider taking a career in embedded systems where every byte still matters(I'm currently optimising a program to run on a machine where ram is measured in hundreds of bytes)

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:38

>>57 see "for anyone who has even minimal experience. "
>>58 The difference is that recursion can be replaced by faster looping constructs in the same language that you program in(except if the language is specifically crippled as to not to provide these constructs).

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:41

>>59
6 months is not "minimal experience".
i already knew VB & javascript by then; and yet, i still managed to learn from SICP

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:42

>>60 How many scripts and programs you wrote?
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:43

>>61
If anyone can remember exactly how many programs they have written I'd be surprised

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:44

>>52
Frozenvoid/10. You are confusing computer science with programming. They are two separate but related subjects.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:45

>>61
let me see.
about 9 chapters for VB class, with each chapter containing 4-8 exercises (which we had to complete as part of the course).
for javascript, i'm not sure - but i had taken atleast two tests and completed atleast one assignment on it

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:48

>>63 If SICP isn't meant for programming
 then you shouldn't use it in the first place(as its a separate field of computer science).
Since you claim its very useful in programming your arguments contradict yourself.

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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:50

>>64
 0 programs then.
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:52

>>66
no less programs than the useless junk you post on your blog

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:52

Since you claim its very useful in programming your arguments contradict yourself.
Because knowledge of computer science can only hinder your programming HURR DURR

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:54

>>68
Yeah! What do computer scientists know about programming?
They're only interested in designing algorithms, data structures, and programming languages!
Oh, wait.......

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:59

This thread is stupid. Two points:

1. Recursion is not necessarily inefficient. See tail-end recursion; this optimization can solve the stack space problem that normally plagues recursive algorithms when implemented.

2. The term "Javascript OS" is too loosely defined to be a reasonable topic of discussion.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:04

>>65
The point is that SICP is an introductory book to computer science and not an introductory book to programming. It is quite possible to study CS without ever writing code that isn't directly related to the theory. It is quite possible to be a programmer without any understanding of CS theory.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:04

Inb4 Frozenvoid makes bullshit claims about tail-end recurstion

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 5:09

>>67 Creating new programs and not blindly executing exercises in your computer science classes.


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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:17

>>73
you can't blindly execute a programming exercise, shit for brains.
programming exercises are all about reinforcing things you have learned by writing programs based on a specification provided by the author. "blindly executing" is called a tutorial, not an exercise.

if you had ever read a programming book, you would know this.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 5:20

>>74 Thats right: you have 0 creativity or choice. You just regurgitate whatever you got “educated”
about and try to pass as another code monkey.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:20

>>71
It is quite possible to be a programmer without any understanding of CS theory.
Not really.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:23

>>75
this is retarded, even by FrozenVoid standards.
can the REAL FrozenVoid please reply?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:23

>>76
Codemonkey is probably the name you'd use for this sort of programmer.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:24

>>77
It's already FrozenVoid/10 quality. There is no way to top that.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:25

>>79
then i am very, very dissapointed.
#define FrozenVoid 0

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 5:33

Real programmers code in Python


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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:42

>>70
NO, tail recusion only exists in fail academic langagues like HASKELL and LITHP.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 6:09

>>82
And also C.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 6:11

>>83
damn those academics and their esoteric languages

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 6:15

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 6:21

>>85
Its FrozenVirgin replying to himself.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 6:35

>>83
Prove yourself, liar.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 6:46

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 18:27

>>87

fact.c

static unsigned long fact_recur(unsigned long n, unsigned long acc)
{
    return n ? fact_recur(n-1, acc*n) : acc;
}

unsigned long fact(unsigned long n)
{
    return fact_recur(n, 1);
}


Compile with gcc -O3 -S fact.c

fact.s

        .file   "fact.c"
        .text
        .p2align 4,,15
.globl fact
        .type   fact, @function
fact:
        pushl   %ebp
        movl    $1, %eax
        movl    %esp, %ebp
        movl    8(%ebp), %edx
        testl   %edx, %edx
        je      .L3
        .p2align 4,,7
        .p2align 3
.L6:
        imull   %edx, %eax
        subl    $1, %edx
        jne     .L6
.L3:
        popl    %ebp
        ret
        .size   fact, .-fact
        .ident  "GCC: (Debian 4.3.2-2) 4.3.3 20090110 (prerelease)"
        .section        .note.GNU-stack,"",@progbits


Notice that the compiled fact function has no recursive calls, because GCC is smart enough the optimize the tail-recursion into a loop.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 18:32

>>85
I invented the "day and age" meme

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 18:40

someone update me about this frozenvoid character and why he sucks so bad

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 18:43

>>91
What are you, some sort of turbo new /prog/-rider or something? FrozenVoid is an infamous troll, perhaps the best troll I've ever seen in the past 5 years. He first started trolling in 2005 on the /sci/ (Science & Math) text boards, then he migrated here.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 19:18

How is it even possible, in this very day and age, that people still, still!, see FrozenVoid's posts? It boggles the mind to be honest.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 19:47

>>93
AGREED

My mind is boggling like a bag of butterflies in a tumbledryer

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 19:53

>>94
EXPERT ANALOGIST

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 19:58

>>89
Thanks, that's interesting. I actually learn quite a lot from /prog/.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 20:01

>>96
I come for the learning, I stay for the memes

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 21:09

>>1
FrozenVoid aside, a guy from Google Japan (used to work for Nintendo, was in the deal that developed the Gamecube OS) is actually working on a Javascript OS, actually. He gave a lecture at my college about it last year or so.

And yeah, he's called Shiki. I wonder if he ever played Tsukihime.

http://code.google.com/p/es-operating-system/

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 21:10

>>98
s/deal/team/

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 21:39

100GET in a stupid thread

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 21:55

>>100
Fitting, /prog/ has become a stupid board.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 22:06

>>98
PROTIP: Shiki is a fucking common name in Japan.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 22:21

>>101
I don't know about the text board itself, but this thread certainly has since you came along.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-05 10:08

>>98,102
梓姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
司輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
史葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
嗣輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思貴 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝樹 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
祉己 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
至喜 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
 

詩紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
詩祈 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩稀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩己 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩生 【うたい】 Utai (f) 【しお】 Shio (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲喜 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
織姫 【おりおん】 Orion (f) 【おりき】 Oriki (f) 【おりひ】 Orihi (f) 【おりひめ】 Orihime (f) 【おりめ】 Orime (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
 

色 【いろ】 Iro (s) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
色姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
新紀 【あらき】 Araki (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
潮李 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
白姫 【あきみ】 Akimi (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
矢輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
識 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【さと】 Sato (f) 【さとる】 Satoru (g) 【つぐひで】 Tsuguhide (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
紫紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しの】 Shino (f) 【むらさき】 Murasaki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫希 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しの】 Shino (f) [G][GI][S][A]
星輝 【きら】 Kira (f) 【きらら】 Kirara (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しょうか】 Shouka (f) 【せいか】 Seika (f) 【せいき】 Seiki (f) 【せき】 Seki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志生 【しう】 Shiu (u) 【しお】 Shio (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しのぶ】 Shinobu (f) [G][GI][S][A]
清生 【きよお】 Kiyoo (s,g) 【きよき】 Kiyoki (u) 【きよなり】 Kiyonari (u) 【しお】 Shio (u) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【せいせい】 Seisei (p) 【せりゅう】 Seryuu (s) [G][GI][S][A]
紫葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ちな】 China (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
丈貴 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ともき】 Tomoki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
史希 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ふみき】 Fumiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
史紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ふみのり】 Fuminori (g) 【みのり】 Minori (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【むらさきひめ】 Murasakihime (f) [G][GI][S][A]
士記 【しき】 Shiki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
子毅 【しき】 Shiki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
史樹 【ふみき】 Fumiki (g) 【しき】 Shiki (g) 【あやき】 Ayaki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
信喜 【のぶよし】 Nobuyoshi (m) 【のぶき】 Nobuki (g) 【しき】 Shiki (p) 【しんき】 Shinki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
磯城 【しき】 Shiki (p,s) [G][GI][S][A]
志木 【しき】 Shiki (p,s) 【しぎ】 Shigi (p) [G][GI][S][A][W]
志貴 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) [G][GI][S][A]
志紀 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) 【ゆきのり】 Yukinori (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
志岐 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) 【しぎ】 Shigi (s) [G][GI][S][A]
四鬼 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志記 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志樹 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志氣 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
氏木 【うじき】 Ujiki (s) 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
獅騎 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
紫木 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
敷 【おさむ】 Osamu (g) 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
市来 【いちき】 Ichiki (p,s) 【いちきざき】 Ichikizaki (s) 【いちぎ】 Ichigi (s) 【いちく】 Ichiku (s) 【いちくる】 Ichikuru (s) 【いちこ】 Ichiko (s) 【いちらい】 Ichirai (s) 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しらい】 Shirai (s) [G][GI][S][A]
四木 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しぎ】 Shigi (s) 【しもく】 Shimoku (p) 【よつぎ】 Yotsugi (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志気 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しげ】 Shige (p) [G][GI][S][A]
志喜 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しのぶ】 Shinobu (f) [G][GI][S][A]
茨木 【いばらき】 Ibaraki (p,s) 【いばらぎ】 Ibaragi (s) 【うき】 Uki (u) 【うばらき】 Ubaraki (u) 【うばらぎ】 Ubaragi (u) 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【ばらき】 Baraki (s) 【まつき】 Matsuki (s) 【むばらき】 Mubaraki (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
鋪 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【ふくさわ】 Fukusawa (u) 【ふくざわ】 Fukuzawa (u) 【みねさわ】 Minesawa (u) 【みねざわ】 Minezawa (u) [G][GI][S][A]
織 【おり】 Ori (s,f) 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【いおり】 Iori (f) 【しょく】 Shoku (u) [G][GI][S][A]
式 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【しょく】 Shoku (g) [G][GI][S][A][W]
四季 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【よもぎ】 Yomogi (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
梓樹 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
史木 【あやき】 Ayaki (u) 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
士輝 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
紫記 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩貴 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩記 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩樹 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩木 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
燭 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
史記 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【ふみき】 Fumiki (u) 【ふみのり】 Fuminori (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
史貴 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【ふき】 Fuki (f) 【ふみたか】 Fumitaka (g) 【みき】 Miki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志起 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【むねおき】 Muneoki (u) 【ゆきおき】 Yukioki (u) [G][GI][S][A]

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-05 10:09

梓姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
司輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
史葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
嗣輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思貴 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝樹 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
祉己 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
至喜 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
詩祈 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩稀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩己 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩生 【うたい】 Utai (f) 【しお】 Shio (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲喜 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
織姫 【おりおん】 Orion (f) 【おりき】 Oriki (f) 【おりひ】 Orihi (f) 【おりひめ】 Orihime (f) 【おりめ】 Orime (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
色 【いろ】 Iro (s) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
色姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
新紀 【あらき】 Araki (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
潮李 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
白姫 【あきみ】 Akimi (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
矢輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
識 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【さと】 Sato (f) 【さとる】 Satoru (g) 【つぐひで】 Tsuguhide (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
紫紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しの】 Shino (f) 【むらさき】 Murasaki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫希 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しの】 Shino (f) [G][GI][S][A]
星輝 【きら】 Kira (f) 【きらら】 Kirara (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しょうか】 Shouka (f) 【せいか】 Seika (f) 【せいき】 Seiki (f) 【せき】 Seki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志生 【しう】 Shiu (u) 【しお】 Shio (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しのぶ】 Shinobu (f) [G][GI][S][A]
清生 【きよお】 Kiyoo (s,g) 【きよき】 Kiyoki (u) 【きよなり】 Kiyonari (u) 【しお】 Shio (u) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【せいせい】 Seisei (p) 【せりゅう】 Seryuu (s) [G][GI][S][A]
紫葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ちな】 China (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
丈貴 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ともき】 Tomoki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
史希 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ふみき】 Fumiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
史紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ふみのり】 Fuminori (g) 【みのり】 Minori (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【むらさきひめ】 Murasakihime (f) [G][GI][S][A]
士記 【しき】 Shiki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
子毅 【しき】 Shiki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
史樹 【ふみき】 Fumiki (g) 【しき】 Shiki (g) 【あやき】 Ayaki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
信喜 【のぶよし】 Nobuyoshi (m) 【のぶき】 Nobuki (g) 【しき】 Shiki (p) 【しんき】 Shinki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
磯城 【しき】 Shiki (p,s) [G][GI][S][A]
志木 【しき】 Shiki (p,s) 【しぎ】 Shigi (p) [G][GI][S][A][W]
志貴 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) [G][GI][S][A]
志紀 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) 【ゆきのり】 Yukinori (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
志岐 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) 【しぎ】 Shigi (s) [G][GI][S][A]
四鬼 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志記 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志樹 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志氣 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
氏木 【うじき】 Ujiki (s) 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
獅騎 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
紫木 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
敷 【おさむ】 Osamu (g) 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
市来 【いちき】 Ichiki (p,s) 【いちきざき】 Ichikizaki (s) 【いちぎ】 Ichigi (s) 【いちく】 Ichiku (s) 【いちくる】 Ichikuru (s) 【いちこ】 Ichiko (s) 【いちらい】 Ichirai (s) 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しらい】 Shirai (s) [G][GI][S][A]
四木 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しぎ】 Shigi (s) 【しもく】 Shimoku (p) 【よつぎ】 Yotsugi (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志気 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しげ】 Shige (p) [G][GI][S][A]
志喜 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しのぶ】 Shinobu (f) [G][GI][S][A]
茨木 【いばらき】 Ibaraki (p,s) 【いばらぎ】 Ibaragi (s) 【うき】 Uki (u) 【うばらき】 Ubaraki (u) 【うばらぎ】 Ubaragi (u) 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【ばらき】 Baraki (s) 【まつき】 Matsuki (s) 【むばらき】 Mubaraki (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
鋪 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【ふくさわ】 Fukusawa (u) 【ふくざわ】 Fukuzawa (u) 【みねさわ】 Minesawa (u) 【みねざわ】 Minezawa (u) [G][GI][S][A]
織 【おり】 Ori (s,f) 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【いおり】 Iori (f) 【しょく】 Shoku (u) [G][GI][S][A]
式 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【しょく】 Shoku (g) [G][GI][S][A][W]
四季 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【よもぎ】 Yomogi (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
梓樹 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
史木 【あやき】 Ayaki (u) 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
士輝 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
紫記 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩貴 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩記 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩樹 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩木 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
燭 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
史記 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【ふみき】 Fumiki (u) 【ふみのり】 Fuminori (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
史貴 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【ふき】 Fuki (f) 【ふみたか】 Fumitaka (g) 【みき】 Miki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志起 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【むねおき】 Muneoki (u) 【ゆきおき】 Yukioki (u) [G][GI][S][A]

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-05 12:36

>>104,105
梓姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
司輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
史葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
嗣輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思貴 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝樹 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
祉己 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
至喜 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
 

詩紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
詩祈 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩稀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩己 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
詩生 【うたい】 Utai (f) 【しお】 Shio (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲喜 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
偲紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
織姫 【おりおん】 Orion (f) 【おりき】 Oriki (f) 【おりひ】 Orihi (f) 【おりひめ】 Orihime (f) 【おりめ】 Orime (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
 

色 【いろ】 Iro (s) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
色姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
新紀 【あらき】 Araki (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
潮李 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
白姫 【あきみ】 Akimi (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
矢輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
識 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【さと】 Sato (f) 【さとる】 Satoru (g) 【つぐひで】 Tsuguhide (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
紫紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しの】 Shino (f) 【むらさき】 Murasaki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫希 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しの】 Shino (f) [G][GI][S][A]
星輝 【きら】 Kira (f) 【きらら】 Kirara (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しょうか】 Shouka (f) 【せいか】 Seika (f) 【せいき】 Seiki (f) 【せき】 Seki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志生 【しう】 Shiu (u) 【しお】 Shio (f) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【しのぶ】 Shinobu (f) [G][GI][S][A]
清生 【きよお】 Kiyoo (s,g) 【きよき】 Kiyoki (u) 【きよなり】 Kiyonari (u) 【しお】 Shio (u) 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【せいせい】 Seisei (p) 【せりゅう】 Seryuu (s) [G][GI][S][A]
紫葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ちな】 China (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
丈貴 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ともき】 Tomoki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
史希 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ふみき】 Fumiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
史紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【ふみのり】 Fuminori (g) 【みのり】 Minori (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) 【むらさきひめ】 Murasakihime (f) [G][GI][S][A]
士記 【しき】 Shiki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
子毅 【しき】 Shiki (g) [G][GI][S][A]
史樹 【ふみき】 Fumiki (g) 【しき】 Shiki (g) 【あやき】 Ayaki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
信喜 【のぶよし】 Nobuyoshi (m) 【のぶき】 Nobuki (g) 【しき】 Shiki (p) 【しんき】 Shinki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
磯城 【しき】 Shiki (p,s) [G][GI][S][A]
志木 【しき】 Shiki (p,s) 【しぎ】 Shigi (p) [G][GI][S][A][W]
志貴 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) [G][GI][S][A]
志紀 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) 【ゆきのり】 Yukinori (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
志岐 【しき】 Shiki (p,s,f) 【しぎ】 Shigi (s) [G][GI][S][A]
四鬼 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志記 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志樹 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志氣 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
氏木 【うじき】 Ujiki (s) 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
獅騎 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
紫木 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
敷 【おさむ】 Osamu (g) 【しき】 Shiki (s) [G][GI][S][A]
市来 【いちき】 Ichiki (p,s) 【いちきざき】 Ichikizaki (s) 【いちぎ】 Ichigi (s) 【いちく】 Ichiku (s) 【いちくる】 Ichikuru (s) 【いちこ】 Ichiko (s) 【いちらい】 Ichirai (s) 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しらい】 Shirai (s) [G][GI][S][A]
四木 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しぎ】 Shigi (s) 【しもく】 Shimoku (p) 【よつぎ】 Yotsugi (s) [G][GI][S][A]
志気 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しげ】 Shige (p) [G][GI][S][A]
志喜 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【しのぶ】 Shinobu (f) [G][GI][S][A]
茨木 【いばらき】 Ibaraki (p,s) 【いばらぎ】 Ibaragi (s) 【うき】 Uki (u) 【うばらき】 Ubaraki (u) 【うばらぎ】 Ubaragi (u) 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【ばらき】 Baraki (s) 【まつき】 Matsuki (s) 【むばらき】 Mubaraki (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
鋪 【しき】 Shiki (s) 【ふくさわ】 Fukusawa (u) 【ふくざわ】 Fukuzawa (u) 【みねさわ】 Minesawa (u) 【みねざわ】 Minezawa (u) [G][GI][S][A]
織 【おり】 Ori (s,f) 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【いおり】 Iori (f) 【しょく】 Shoku (u) [G][GI][S][A]
式 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【しょく】 Shoku (g) [G][GI][S][A][W]
四季 【しき】 Shiki (s,f) 【よもぎ】 Yomogi (f) [G][GI][S][A][W]
梓樹 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
史木 【あやき】 Ayaki (u) 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
士輝 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
紫記 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩貴 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩記 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩樹 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
詩木 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A]
燭 【しき】 Shiki (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
史記 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【ふみき】 Fumiki (u) 【ふみのり】 Fuminori (u) [G][GI][S][A][W]
史貴 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【ふき】 Fuki (f) 【ふみたか】 Fumitaka (g) 【みき】 Miki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志起 【しき】 Shiki (u) 【むねおき】 Muneoki (u) 【ゆきおき】 Yukioki (u) [G][GI][S][A]

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-05 16:00

>>102
I know, and it can be written in a billion different ways. Just pointing that out because it was amusing to me.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-05 22:38

梓姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
司輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
史葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
嗣輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志葵 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志希 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
志姫 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思紀 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
思貴 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝季 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
枝樹 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
祉己 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]
紫輝 【しき】 Shiki (f) [G][GI][S][A]

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-06 11:40

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