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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 1:54

Suppose you have all the security crap sorted out.
What would be an obstacle to creating a JavaScript OS?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:06

>>38
hahahaahahahahaahahaahaha.
this coming from a javascript 'programmer'.
priceless

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:08

The SICP is just such an “entry-level” book for Scheme.
I don't find verbose prose and musings on programming inspiring.
I like to see raw data and code. With benchmarks for each implementation.
Obviously i don't have time for reading garbage.
This is why nobody can ever help you. You already know the answers.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:11

>>38
lol, js = "raw data and code".
so you have one of those new CPUs that stores all it's data as type var?

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:11

>>42  I just want opinions of /prog/.

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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:14

>>42
LOL I TROL YOU

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:15

>>44
Liar.
You never listen to /prog/; you just wait for your turn to talk.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:18

>>46 I have the right to discuss anything you bring up.
Your opinion isn't a “unquestionable truth” which should be accepted by default. 

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:20

>>47
Again you fail to actually listen. You must be a troll, because a real person could never be this ignorant.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:20

>>47
EXPERT FROZENTROLL POST

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:21

>>48 I listen and i reply. You have difficulty accepting my replies and understanding flaws in your arguments.

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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:22

>>49
We have difficulty in accepting your trolls as serious replies as you show no EXPERT KNOWLEDGE of the topic

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:24

>>51 The facts strongly speak in my favor:
 SICP is newbie programmers book.
 Recursion is horribly inefficient.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:24

>>3
What the hell is a network os?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:26

>>50
you do not listen.
otherwise, why would most of your posts be completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand?
and why do you constantly switch sides in an argument once you begin to lose?
you must be a troll
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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:27

>>54 These posts are direct replies to your arguments.


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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:28

>>53
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_operating_system


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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:30

>>54
your previous ones were not.
you still not have addressed the fact that most people can learn something from reading SICP. i am living proof against your argument that SICP is completely useless to anyone who knows anything about programming.

please explain how i did not actually learn anything from reading SICP - and how you are somehow right

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:32

>>52
SICP is newbie programmers book.
Actually, it's a newbie computer science book. Computer Science isn't about computers or programming languages necessarily. It is about algorithms and computation.
Recursion is horribly inefficient.
It may not be the most efficient use of a computers time, but using the same logic function calls which push the values of registers onto the stack are inefficient. If we accept that, then we may as well all return to programming in machine code.(An assembler would be a waste of precious memory)

The fact of the matter, is that computers are always getting faster due to the endevours of engineers (you're welcome), and that a few cycles can be expended for ease of programming. Now, if you are still going to bitch and moan about `lol inefficient`, then consider taking a career in embedded systems where every byte still matters(I'm currently optimising a program to run on a machine where ram is measured in hundreds of bytes)

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:38

>>57 see "for anyone who has even minimal experience. "
>>58 The difference is that recursion can be replaced by faster looping constructs in the same language that you program in(except if the language is specifically crippled as to not to provide these constructs).

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:41

>>59
6 months is not "minimal experience".
i already knew VB & javascript by then; and yet, i still managed to learn from SICP

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:42

>>60 How many scripts and programs you wrote?
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:43

>>61
If anyone can remember exactly how many programs they have written I'd be surprised

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:44

>>52
Frozenvoid/10. You are confusing computer science with programming. They are two separate but related subjects.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:45

>>61
let me see.
about 9 chapters for VB class, with each chapter containing 4-8 exercises (which we had to complete as part of the course).
for javascript, i'm not sure - but i had taken atleast two tests and completed atleast one assignment on it

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:48

>>63 If SICP isn't meant for programming
 then you shouldn't use it in the first place(as its a separate field of computer science).
Since you claim its very useful in programming your arguments contradict yourself.

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Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 4:50

>>64
 0 programs then.
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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:52

>>66
no less programs than the useless junk you post on your blog

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:52

Since you claim its very useful in programming your arguments contradict yourself.
Because knowledge of computer science can only hinder your programming HURR DURR

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:54

>>68
Yeah! What do computer scientists know about programming?
They're only interested in designing algorithms, data structures, and programming languages!
Oh, wait.......

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 4:59

This thread is stupid. Two points:

1. Recursion is not necessarily inefficient. See tail-end recursion; this optimization can solve the stack space problem that normally plagues recursive algorithms when implemented.

2. The term "Javascript OS" is too loosely defined to be a reasonable topic of discussion.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:04

>>65
The point is that SICP is an introductory book to computer science and not an introductory book to programming. It is quite possible to study CS without ever writing code that isn't directly related to the theory. It is quite possible to be a programmer without any understanding of CS theory.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:04

Inb4 Frozenvoid makes bullshit claims about tail-end recurstion

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 5:09

>>67 Creating new programs and not blindly executing exercises in your computer science classes.


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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:17

>>73
you can't blindly execute a programming exercise, shit for brains.
programming exercises are all about reinforcing things you have learned by writing programs based on a specification provided by the author. "blindly executing" is called a tutorial, not an exercise.

if you had ever read a programming book, you would know this.

Name: FrozenVoid 2009-03-04 5:20

>>74 Thats right: you have 0 creativity or choice. You just regurgitate whatever you got “educated”
about and try to pass as another code monkey.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:20

>>71
It is quite possible to be a programmer without any understanding of CS theory.
Not really.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:23

>>75
this is retarded, even by FrozenVoid standards.
can the REAL FrozenVoid please reply?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:23

>>76
Codemonkey is probably the name you'd use for this sort of programmer.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:24

>>77
It's already FrozenVoid/10 quality. There is no way to top that.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-04 5:25

>>79
then i am very, very dissapointed.
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