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Does anyone really need 8GB of RAM?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 18:16

http://www.jondavis.net/techblog/post/2009/02/13/Nine-Reasons-Why-8GB-Is-Only-Just-Enough-(For-A-Professional-Business-Software-Developer).aspx

Personally, I think this guy is just plain retarded.



Also, he is a bigger MS fanboy than most of /g/, but that isn't relevant to the conversation

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 19:22

Business users have fucked themselves into a corner by running Windows. After accounting for memory mapped I/O devices, that 4GB limit is looking pretty small. And there's no usable 64-bit version of Windows in sight.

All the more reason to switch to MAC

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 19:24

As for me I'm still doing okay programming on a Commodore 64.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 19:26

>>2
I run Vista Ultimate x64 with no problems.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 19:31

>>5
Now you have two problems.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 19:32

What a load of crap. I and the other developers on my team run Visual Studio 2008, the SQL Query Analyser, and all the other usual programs like Outlook and Excel on 2GB RAM and it's just fine. 8GB is ridiculous for a developer workstation.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 19:34

>>6
how much swap space are you using?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 20:15

>>6
Try doing some Eclipse development and see how you fare. (Hint: poorly.)

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 21:13

Disgraceful behaviour. OP needs a vodka and painkiller cocktail followed by a shotgun mouthwash.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 21:20

>>8
On my GNU/Linux laptop, Eclipse never uses more than 200-300MB of memory. I have 4GB total, but rarely if ever go above two.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 21:23

Emacs takes less than 20 megs on my computer and it's a full-blown OS/IDE/browser/game/database/compiler/YHBT/etc.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-15 22:02

That guy is a total moron. Unless you're using video editing software, 2GB is more than enough. Sure, you'll swap a couple hundred of megs, but what's the big deal? Not really that noticeable.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 1:50

Who the fuck runs the follow at exactly the same time:
WinXP/2k3 - 500mb
IIS - 500mb
MS Office (multiple programs) - 700mb
SQL Server Dev - 1gb
SQL Server Manage - 1gb
Visual Studio - 1.5gb
App Being Developed - 800mb
IE - 1.7gb
VMWare - 2gb

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 2:13

you only need 1GB is you use a simple text editor and compiler instead of IDE faggotry

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 3:14


             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          7990       7693        297          0        314       4678
-/+ buffers/cache:       2700       5290
Swap:            0          0          0

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 3:22

>>14
Nice job butchering the English language.  Also, if you've written anything longer than "HELLO WORLD!", you'd understand why using an IDE is so beneficial.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 4:10

>>13
IE - 1.7gb
ಠ_ಠ

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 4:39

Gotta give one thing to him - he IS pretty fast at deleting commets. Those 8gb RAM must be paying off.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 5:21

>>16
ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD!!!

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 7:40

By quadrupling the performance of your employee's system, you’d effectively double the productivity of your employee; it’s like getting a new employee for free.

Oh fuck I can't even think of something to say capable of matching the stupidity of his pull quote

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 8:11

Two words: Virtual memory.
[/thread]

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 8:27

One word: ReadyBoost.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 8:32

The "JAVA" [i]programming language[/i] can increase a machine's performance by a factor of TEN, effectively QUADRUPLING the productivity of your employee; it's like getting three new employees for free.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 8:39

>>23

[i]programming language[/i]
This careless mistake is why I will never reach satoriiiiiiiiiiii
iiii

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 8:48

>>16
If you weren't so afraid of learning curves you'd realize even vi blows your precious IDE out of the water.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 8:55

>>25
Anything vi can do, my IDE can do better.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 9:00

>>26
Emacs does anything better than IDE/

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 10:27

>>27
More like C-e C-m C-M-a M-c C-s amirite?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 12:46

>>27
No it doesn't!

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:05

I am doing ENTERPRISE DATABASE APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT with the help of a STREAMLINED version of Eclipse installation branded with a Blue Hat. This is possible on this ancient laptop because I am not utilizing an excuse for an Operating System designed by monkey-boys.
top - 20:53:58 up 3 days, 11:08,  5 users,  load average: 0.41, 0.86, 0.93
Tasks: 199 total,   4 running, 195 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 31.5%us, 12.8%sy,  0.0%ni, 54.0%id,  0.8%wa,  0.2%hi,  0.8%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   1024460k total,  1000652k used,    23808k free,     5904k buffers
Swap:  2064376k total,   790652k used,  1273724k free,   156640k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND           
26475 satori    20   0  853m 224m  22m S  0.7 22.5   9:18.57 eclipse           
20361 satori    20   0  334m 152m  20m S  0.3 15.2  21:31.98 firefox           
24178 root      20   0  304m  98m 1004 R 43.8  9.9  90:55.47 qemu              
20480 satori    20   0  643m  74m 5312 S  0.7  7.4   2:20.58 java              
23624 satori    20   0  572m  66m 2472 S  0.3  6.7   0:26.97 java              
30012 satori    20   0  218m  39m  17m S  8.2  3.9   7:47.11 rhythmbox         
10445 root      20   0  333m  36m  11m S  7.2  3.7  75:24.04 Xorg              
30125 satori    20   0 49080  22m  12m S  0.0  2.2   0:09.81 xchat-gnome       
10838 satori    20   0 97.8m  19m  12m S  0.0  1.9   0:30.18 nautilus          
10848 satori    20   0 90816  17m 9472 S  0.0  1.7   0:14.57 nm-applet         
10836 satori    20   0 43276  11m 4704 S  0.7  1.2   2:28.30 gnome-screensav   
13879 root      20   0  102m  11m 7680 S  2.3  1.2  18:59.07 /usr/share/virt   
11102 root      20   0  152m  11m 7244 R  2.9  1.1  21:51.97 /usr/share/virt   
10847 satori    20   0 88784  11m 8228 S  0.3  1.1   0:05.74 gnome-power-man   
10837 satori    20   0 45720  10m 7204 S  0.0  1.1   0:32.07 gnome-panel       
11107 satori    20   0 85500 9692 6284 S  2.0  0.9   1:21.92 gnome-terminal    
10915 satori    20   0 43820 9140 6768 S  0.0  0.9   1:26.81 wnck-applet       
10972 satori    20   0 66180 8808 7040 S  0.0  0.9   0:00.61 mixer_applet2     
10828 satori    20   0 72648 8560 5776 S  0.0  0.8   0:19.48 gnome-settings-   
10641 satori    20   0 49080 8540 6368 S  0.0  0.8   0:01.28 gnome-session     
10835 satori    20   0 26756 7924 6136 S  0.0  0.8   1:18.75 metacity          
 2643 toranon   20   0 13916 7872 2556 S  0.0  0.8   0:43.55 tor

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:14

>>30
USER
satori

Stopped reading there, bro.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:16

s/satori/chris

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:27

It was
s/chris /satori
actually.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:33

>>30
tor
[sppoiler]pedophile[/spoiler]

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:50

>>34
We are not not amused by your BBCodefailure.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:50

>>34
sppoiler
You're not good with this crypto thing, are you.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 15:55

>>35-36
Actually I was trying for something sort of equivalent to faking like you're going to whisper in someone's ear, and then talk really loud instead. Obviously didn't work though.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 16:13

>>37
Actually I was trying for something sort of equivalent to faking
You're behaving just like your mother.
Obviously didn't work though.
That's why I left her.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 18:24

>>1
I do stuff that requires an order of magnitude more performance than this clown yet I'd have trouble justifying more than 6GB on my workstation. There's no way microsoft's TURNKEY ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS eat such ridiculous amounts of ram. 512MB for a naked install of XP? How the fuck is that even possible? XP was released in 2001, and budget computers had only 256MB back then, maybe even 128MB for some.
What a fucking crybaby. If you're gonna beg your employer for new toys, at least ask for something that would actually do shit performance-wise, like a ssd or a velociraptor.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 20:47

TURKEY ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-16 23:12

TURKENTERPRISE ENTURKEY

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 0:07

TURKANTERPIZSCHEN ZOLUZIONNEN

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 0:13

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Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 0:23

>>30
firefox

You can optimize your machine by using www.opera.com

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 0:42

>>44
Sorry but I'm quite an important and successful person, without Firefox add-ons it would be too much of a chore to keep my hundreds of friends, subscriber, and followers updated on my social networking, blogging, and microblogging outlets.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 0:47

>>45
I can't see why people like reading what normal, everyday, unimportant people on the internet have to say.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 0:56

>>46
TRANSCENTENT META TROLL

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 1:03

>>46
Your deciding to be unimportant is limiting yourself. You should read my last post, ``10 new fields where the social media revolution enables crowdsourced insights'',  which received thousands of diggs; it explains your problem in clear language in the introduction.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 1:15

10 new fields where the social media revolution enables crowdsourced insights

What a convoluted piece of shit. Sounds very ENTERPRISE.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 1:20

>>44
Opera sucks sure there's an ebuild for opera but it just get dropped to /opt, it's statically linked, and it's CLOSED SOURCE, which means that it is a BINARY package.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 1:32

>>50
CLOSED SOURCE? OMG, THAT'S LIKE SAYING NAZI! AND NIGGER! REPUBLICANS!

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 1:33

>>46
yes, i have trouble understanding the popularity of blogs aswell

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 4:19

>>48
There was once a gigantic faggot in /prog/ who sounded just like you, I won't mention his name for /prog/'s sake.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 8:25

this guy is an American hero.
why are you americans unable to discover irony?
this dudes entire blog cant be serious.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 8:47

>>47
transcentent

IHBT

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 13:16

>>53
No, he was a troll. I am very serious.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 15:00

fag

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-18 3:54

>>58
yes, for once i agree.
you're not a troll - infact, you're the perfect victim for those types.
you're an autistic with zero troll detection capabilities that loves to argue with anyone and about anything.

anyways, looks like i need to re-enable that /prog/fixer script now.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-18 3:55

>>58
Go away invisible poster.

Fix invisible troll posts today. http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/40415

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-18 4:57

>>60
Oh thanx, I was looking for this.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-18 5:25

ITTYHBT

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-18 5:46

Internet Explorer and/or your other web browsers take up plenty of RAM. Typically 75MB for IE to be loaded, plus 10-15MB per page/tab. And if you’re anything like me, you’ll have lots and lots and LOTS of pages/tabs by the end of the day; by noon I typically end up with about four or five separate IE windows/processes, each with 5-15 tabs. (Mind you, all or at least most of them are work-related windows, such as looking up internal/corporate documents on the intranet or tracking down developer documentation such as API specs, blogs, and forum posts.) Cost @nominal: 100MB; @peak: 512MB. Subtotal @nominal: 1.75GB; @peak: 6.5GB.

» And I'm angry when Firefox use 300mb...

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-18 6:27

>>58,61
This is why we have such nice things

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/40415

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 10:20

>>44
Disregard >>45, he sucks cocks.

And as to your OMG OPTIMIZATION I've got three words: ENTERPRISE WEB APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT.
Well... make that four words.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 16:54

>>39
The amazing thing about XP is that 512MB was never enough for it; People back in 2001 had a vastly different approach to what was considered enough.

Thanks to XP lasting as long as it did, the OS vs RAM ratio has swung in favour of us having loads of RAM and never having to rely on swap, which is one hell of a good thing.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 21:49

>>67
On a related note, I'm highly amused at how badly Vista has failed to gain acceptance.

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