I absolutely need to leave my country. Nobody would employ a programmer because nobody needs it, I guess. The most IT-related job is a Windows 2000 system manager, this fucking sucks. No Unix, no C and no ASM, it's like living in a cum filled loose pussy. I don't want to teach kids how to write Pascal programs...School system in my country is the worst in Europe and they don't pay enough.
Yes, I said Europe. And yes, Italy is exactly like an average African country, at least technologically and politically speaking. Now, I'd really like to move to US, but I'm not really sure about what I have to do. First, would MIT accept me as a foreign student? I have a secondary high school diploma. Second, is there any chance of finding a job as a programmer in US for a foreign worker?
I'm not poor or shit like that, I can't just stand this fucking country. Speaking English is not a problem, as you can see ( at least I don't think it is ). Are there any Europeans working in USA?
Also, what about Japan? I'd really like to work there, I love Asian chicks and tight pussy.
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Anonymous2008-07-14 6:56
First, would MIT accept me as a foreign student?
Good one.
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Anonymous2008-07-14 6:57
Now, I'd really like to move to US
Good one.
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Anonymous2008-07-14 7:03
I know 60% of MIT students are foreigns, anyway since Italian schools sucks so hard I don't think they'd accept me, even if I am a skilled programmer ( SICP, Unix, ASM, C/C++, LISP, various scripting languages, Web Development, experience with OpenGL programming, shit like Java and some Ajax ).
I was writing a reply, but then I saw your last sentence =/
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Anonymous2008-07-14 7:19
About the skilled programmer part? I was joking, anyway I do really think I am the best one in my country.
C'mon guys, chicks here aren't even that hot, only a small percentage.
What do you need chicks for when you have a computer?
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Anonymous2008-07-14 17:42
>>1
Come to Portugal for a while... Then rave about Italy
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Anonymous2008-07-14 17:57
Come to Canada, there are some decent schools and it's easier to get a student visa. Then once you have your degree, all you have to do is convince a US company to hire you, green card follows easily, and you get the fuck out of Canada. Success
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Anonymous2008-07-14 19:48
>>6
Yes, you're the best programmer in your country. That's why you're posting on /prog/ about your shit life and no job.
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Anonymous2008-07-14 20:05
hax my anus in asm
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Anonymous2008-07-14 20:35
serious answer...
I haven't worked with many europeans in industry. Most foreign programmers I see are Indian or Chinese.
But if you're as good and experienced as you say you are, you shouldn't really have any trouble getting a job.
Unless, of course, you never get a college education. In that case, you'd better be a Sussman-level programmer.
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Anonymous2008-07-14 22:05
PORCA MISERIA, BITCH!
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Anonymous2008-07-15 4:10
>>9
That's a nice idea, thanks. >>10
At least I don't want to live in my mum's basement like 99% of Italian before marriage ( catholic marriage, of course. Fucking church. ) >>12
I thought Indians drive taxis and Chinese people run laundries...If Indian or Chinese guys do it, it won't be a problem for me.
And I am not a Sussman-level programmer, so I'll probably study my daily SICP 'til I go to the college.
Thanks for the serious answers.
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Anonymous2008-07-17 12:31
>>1 Are there any Europeans working in USA?
No, completely unheard of.
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Anonymous2008-07-17 12:32
>>4 ( SICP, Unix, ASM, C/C++, LISP, various scripting languages, Web Development, experience with OpenGL programming, shit like Java and some Ajax )
I don't think you've read SICP. Enjoy your webmonkeyism.
>>16
I will, along with my job (this has never been so accurate.).
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Anonymous2008-07-18 15:26
if you want to get a halfway decent programming job in the states you are going to need a college degree. period. I don't know what kind of standardized tests they have in italy but I would look into taking the SAT's so you can start applying to universities in america (you are gonna need 800's for MIT to even open your application). colleges love foreign students for a number of reasons so just look around.
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Anonymous2008-07-18 17:22
>>18 you are gonna need 800's for MIT to even open your application
800 sounds a little lame. Are you sure you didn't mean 1800?
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Anonymous2008-07-19 17:34
>>19
prolly meant 800's in each section, totaling 2400 now.
Over 9000% of the engineering students at berkeley were foreign, and by foreign I mean indian or chinese. I don't remember meeting a single italian; in fact there were more mexicans than italians.
Don't ever go to Japan if you're a programmer. Japan treats programmers like niggers. They all work like 120 hours weeks with no overtime pay. (obviously that analogy only goes so far because niggers don't work _or_ know how to operate computers, but you get my point) If it's asian pussy you want, go to California (UC irvine has like the largest population of asians outside asia).
About coming to the US on a student visa-- first, you need basically a perfect high school academic record. then you need to get at least 95% percentile on the SAT's. Then you take the toefl and get at least 90%. Then you save ~$100,000 (and yes, you'll need to prove ability to pay for the education when getting your visa). Then you get accepted into the university of your choice. Then you get an I-20 form from that school. Then you go to the US embassy in italy, navigate the cluster-fuck-that-is-the-department-of-homeland-security, hopefully obtain a student visa.
Note that on an F-1 visa you'll only be able to work part time, on-campus.
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Anonymous2008-07-30 23:09
Japan treats programmers like niggers. They all work like 120 hours weeks with no overtime pay.
Isn't that how all salary men / generic employees work in Japan?
If it's asian pussy you want, go to California
I'm in for the loli doujinshi, actually. Anything else would be an insult to the name of Anonymous.
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Anonymous2008-07-31 9:30
>>27
Interesting read.
Do you have more of this? :)