/prog/ - You guys suck

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:08

Why do people still insist on using antiquated, broken languages like Java, C and C++?

Why don't you all switch to LISP, morons?

I can't understand why any one of you couldn't learn LISP, I mean, allocating memory from the heap? Get the fuck out. You too, hueg liek xbawks languages like Java, just fuck off.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:13

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Lisp is older than any of those. You can't really call them antiquated in this context.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:25

>>2
Go back to your toy language, C++fag

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:27

>>2
Antiquated ideas.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:28

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Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:43

>>3
I'm a Lisper, faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:48

>>1
What have you written in Lisp? It might help convince us if we could see some practical application of the language.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 15:48

>>7
Fucking faux-LISPers in my language competence-pool.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 16:00

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Fucking faux-Lispers is you. I can tell because you write Lisp in all-caps.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 16:51

>>7
I'm a Lisp faggot.

Fixed

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 17:24

>>11
I was about to say Lispfag, yes.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 17:38

>>9
``language competence-pool'' closed

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 17:45

>>13
stop using faggot quotes

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 18:15

>>10
Cfag

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 22:22

>>1
You have no grasp of reality.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 22:52

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No.

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A reality in which programmers are seduced by false promises of ZOMG OPTIMIZED and are too lazy to learn the things that will really make their programming better.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/d11915c64da6e9cb

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 22:59

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You know not of what you speak. I study every line of assembly of every program I write, looking for improvements at all possible points, and overriding stupid shit the compiler did.

Congratulations, you've phaild. That's a degree that unfortunately doesn't come with a large salary.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-04 23:46

I'm >>8, and I'm still waiting.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 1:16

isn't lisp the oldest of those 3 languages?
c++ and java are very solid, but lisp?? lisp... =9 someday i'll make a lisp sdk (in java) just for fun, i bet it'll kicks ass

.....lisp.....fag

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 1:29

>>20
Of course it's the oldest. It's kind of silly that 50 years of language design have passed without producing a single contender, but that's the way it is.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 1:46

>>21
Yeah, it's crazy. Fifty years and dozens of other toy languages later and none of them managed to be as shitty as lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 1:52

>>18
Yeah, that works great if you're just talking about inner loops of number crunching. Now, howabout optimizing your prefetching system to use dynamic load balancing because reading as-needed from your larger-than-memory files leaves idle time? What about optimizing your network message ordering across a distributed process? What about optimizing the cache coherency involved in multithreaded programming by deciding if/when to yield so that work queues don't pile up in a single timeslice?

Oh wait, you don't actually code real systems!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 4:11

only three complete programs have ever been written in Lisp

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 4:35

Crash Bandicoot is written in lisp

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 4:36

>>24
1) factorial
2) fibonacci
3) ?????

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 4:38

java > lisp

true fact

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 4:39

>>26
3) calculating pi

its always pi

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 5:06

pi

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 5:13

>>26
3) GNU Emacs

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 5:39

>>30
Except Emacs was written in C

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 6:06

Good shit written in lisp

* Crash bandicoot
* Amazon
* Maxima

All very differend, enough to prove lisp can be very powerful.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 7:55

OP here, I was trolling. Lol.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 8:26

>>31
CHRISTIANITY STARTED IN FINLAND

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 8:38

>>32 all it proves is that it can be done, not that it can be ``powerful''. any modern language can do everything lisp can do.
FUQN LISP.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 8:58

>>35
Any Touring-complete language can do everything any other Touring-complete language can do. You don't really have any kind of argument to present, but you're presenting it anyway, which makes the whole situation pretty comical.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 9:34

>>36
Any Touring-complete language can *compute* everything any computable number, as other Touring-complete language can/

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 9:37

>>37
Which, in the context of programming languages, is precisely the same thing.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 9:50

>>34
Christianity started in JAMAICA

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 9:52

Also,fuck Lost In Stupid Parentheses.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 10:03

>>40
Ah! A fine language-smith has come upon us!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 11:13

>>38
No it is not.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 12:58

>>31
Emacs contains much more Lisp code than C code. 15.5MB versus 48MB.

>>38
And, in the context of writing programs in those languages, is completely different. Look up ``Touring tarpit'' and be enlightened.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 13:02

>>42,43
You're both missing the context of discussion here. The point was responding to nil arguments with more nil arguments.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 13:14

>>44
Nil? Are you some kind of LISPfag?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 13:27

>>45
Yes, I am. I see nothing wrong about it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 13:30

>>46
Couldn't you at least dig up the scheme programmer copypasta?

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Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 17:05

>>47
Which scheme programmer copypasta?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 17:22

>>49
Yes, I am a Scheme programmer. So? I don't see any problem. I embraced my functional dick long ago and I am happy together with my cdr (who is my other car!). We have a fucking lot of friends in and outside of the fandom and I am pretty tail-recursive.

But thanks anyway asshole. Go and make love to your von Neumann machine while I write SEXP with my boyfriend!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 17:30

LISP is crap. That's why nobody uses it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 18:58

>>26
i think that drawing turtle software whas written in lisp

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 19:09

>>52
drawing turtle software
Aw, that sounds so kawaii. How can anybody hate LISP now?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 19:13

I can run Lisp interpreters on my nuclear power plant?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 19:21

>>52
The one where you draw mathematical shapes?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 19:35

>>55
http://el.media.mit.edu/Logo-foundation/logo/programming.html

hell yeah xD

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 19:48

>>56
I like weird/half Lisps like Logo or Tcl

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 20:13

>>57
Me too, list more of them please

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