Some argue that he state shouldn't dictate to us what we should wear no matter how stupid. Doing so is taking away our liberty. We should have ability to criticise people for wearing them however.
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Anonymous2010-07-25 15:56
I agree. Religious freedom must be preserved, as well as free speech in order to maintain a free society. If you lose either one, society is no longer free.
What if a religion sanctioned slavery? Does that get a free pass because HURR DURR religious freedom? NO. The BURQA is a form of slavery it is an outward sign that men OWN women, just as the rediculous looking headresses that the FLDS women wear says I'M A SEX SLAVE TO MY HUSBAND. all of that shit should be banned because no person has the right to control another's free will -- not even in the name of Islam or FLDS.
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Anonymous2010-07-25 17:46
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No need for hypotheticals. Some religions, historically, have not merely sanctioned but required human sacrifice.
Do you allow the Asatru Temple to snatch random people off the street to make the "Blood Eagle for Odin?"
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Anonymous2010-07-25 18:56
>>3 What if a religion sanctioned slavery?
In the US, not allowed by way of the Thirteenth Amendment. The BURQA is a form of slavery it is an outward sign that men OWN women
If the woman has consented to such and is not found to be forced by her husband to wear a burqa due to religious reasons and whatnot, then there should be no reason for it to be a problem. just as the rediculous looking headresses that the FLDS women wear says I'M A SEX SLAVE TO MY HUSBAND.
Same as above, if the woman knowingly consents to it and has no problem with it then it is not a problem. all of that shit should be banned because no person has the right to control another's free will -- not even in the name of Islam or FLDS.
That's not the view of maintaining and preserving a free society. You start banning those, then where does it stop? Then you start banning speech because it offends, then you start banning this or that, then it comes to a point where people have to walk around egg shells to avoid being thrown in jail for something they've said/done/advocate/believe in.
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Anonymous2010-07-25 22:50
The problem with the burqa in public is that it prevents the wearer from being identified.
You wouldn't be allowed to wear a ski mask in public either - under most laws, you can't wear anything that hides your identity.
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Anonymous2010-07-25 22:57
No it should not be banned. I can understand not being able to wear one in a bank or for a photo for an drivers/identification card, but having the government say you cannot wear this ANYWHERE is wrong.
Problem: Muslim men are repressing their wives and daughters and forcing them to hide themselves behind masks.
In both cases the women have been essentially conditioned to accept it. In the FLDS, the women are raised in that society, and have no choice but to remain and accept that they will be one of several perpetually pregnant sex partners living in the same house as their husband. If you know nothing else, you CAN'T choose. Same with islam -- women have been conditioned to thing that husbands should be able to beat their wives, marry more than one of them, and they have to cover their faces. They've also been conditioned to the idea that they can't leave their own house unless her husband goes with her. Again, not a choice, because the muslim woman has never known anything else
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Anonymous2010-07-26 18:32
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That may be so, but the burden of proof of such must be ascertained in a court of law. Such things cannot simply be banned in a free society because of how you think or believe what it does to certain individuals.
Look having to prove that women are opressed is not going to solve anything if the act of veiling your women is the biggest sign and we can't even touch that.
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Clicked the wrong number when clearly he intended to cite a post with single digits. Another unlikely story. What else ya got?
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Anonymous2010-07-31 0:21
Anon wants to ban burqas, but then goes to his gay little rallies wearing guy fawkes masks? If anything, Anon should embrace burqas... EVERYONE should wear burqas, not just muslim women. Then we'll be as anonymous IRL as we are online...
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Anonymous2010-07-31 1:19
>Some argue
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Anonymous2010-07-31 3:30
>>14
A likely story. He was 10, so 10 had not appeared when he was posting, so he could not have clicked the wrong number.
well then. either everyone should wear burkas or nobody wears burkas. but i think everyone should have a choice. i believe there should be zones. for example. if your wearing a ninja suit you dont go hang out at the samuri party next door. we have no smoking zones. no drinking zones. no speeding zones. no burka zones. how fracking easy is that?
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Anonymous2010-08-01 9:33
well then. either everyone should wear burkas or nobody wears burkas. but i think everyone should have a choice. i believe there should be zones. for example. if your wearing a ninja suit you dont go hang out at the samuri party next door. we have no smoking zones. no drinking zones. no speeding zones. no burka zones. how fracking easy is that?
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Oh. Maybe for >>19 but definitely >>16 needs to back to /b/, please.
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noko2010-08-09 1:11
As much as I hate muslims, I think it shouldn'd be banned. People should have the right to wear what they want. Why should the government decide what is good for you. We need to find other ways to kill muslims, and also the jews.