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What the fuck is wrong with this planet?

Name: OP !!IVfQm+vqqhBai+R 2010-03-02 2:14

I'm only 23 and have only been paying attention to it for about 5 years, but I am already completely sick of politics. I just can't stand this bullshit anymore. It never fucking ends.

I have yet to see a single politician that wasn't a back-stabbing, lying, hypocritical asshole blatantly in the pocket of some industry or interest group.

Republicans, Democrats, even the so-called "independents" and third parties. All of them. All the same. It's all fucking bullshit.

What the fuck.

Obama seems like he's at least TRYING to fulfill his "Change" and "Hope" promises, but the closer I look, the more frustrated I get with the rest of the country. He's made some bad calls, sure, and I'll bet he's surprised to be making largely the same decisions as his predecessor on some issues, but at least he seems to be trying.

It was only during the past year or so that I really got into global politics. I thought, "surely the rest of the world can't be this bad." I was wrong. America may be the butt of jokes, but every other country out there has the same fundamental problems taken to different extremes.

I have come to the conclusion that the entire fucking planet is either stupid or insane. The human race is, for the most part, a vast herd of ignorant, irrational pricks. I've always had a vague sort of amazement at the stupidity of the masses, but only in the last couple years has it really hit me how massive the scale of it is.

If I could punch everyone on Earth in the dick, I would.

So that's the problem. But what's the solution? There isn't one. Not one that would bear fruit in my lifetime, anyway. We can only educate our children as best we can and hope future generations outgrow our bullshit.

I can't fucking stand it any more. I'm done.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-02 4:41

Welcome to the real world.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-02 10:16

The door is over there.  We've cleared you a path.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-02 12:16

>>3
It's not really a door, more like a thick unchartered mountainous jungle that is difficult to traverse but hides potential riches if you are lucky enough to find them and smart enough to find a use for them.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-02 14:37

So that's the problem. But what's the solution? There isn't one.

become the change you want to see, doofus.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-02 15:36

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Name: Anonymous 2010-03-02 22:30

>>5
I lakc the willpower and strength of character to set an example, but so does everyone else, and there is more of everyone else than there is of me so that entitles me to whine about everyone else instead of pitying myself.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-03 8:02

>>7
You may inspire others to follow your lead. Together we are strong alone we are weak.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-03 10:43

err basically you haven't entered the real world yet which involves paying bill and putting food in your children's mouths.

That's why politicians do what they do, to survive.
They don't have any particular talent. They are good at talking and lying that's it. There's no other job where these skills make money.
If they were good at maths they would be accountants or something (inb4 treasury that doesn't count as they use accountants)

I like most my peers figured this out about age 25 so don't feel too bad. you just need to live a little.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-03 11:32

>They are good at talking and lying that's it. There's no other job where these skills make money.
Law?

Name: =w= Screw Anon Call me Planned 2010-03-04 15:23

It is simple and obviously relative to the issues we have, the human race is a selfish incompetent race most of who bare the intellegence lack the chances, lack the courage, and lack the heart.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-04 17:26

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-05 1:20

>>1
unoriginalfag thinks he came to an original conclusion

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-05 1:38

meh, we're doing ok, at least we're not still in the stone age like the klargons

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-05 6:37

>>13
Back to /b/, please

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-05 7:44

The chemical dumbing-down of the masses is why the people are allowing themselves to be screwed. They've set it up in such a way that the plebs actually revolting against them is as unthinkable as an insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-10 0:21

>>16
>implying the masses were less oppressed and less dumbed down in the past
The African American community frowns apon your shenanigans.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-10 1:09

>>17
>implying
Back to the imageboards, please

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-10 2:06

Niggers.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-10 2:09

>>19
* African Americans

Name: one of many 2010-03-10 20:43

I disagree. I think that progress is being made, albeit slowly. I don't find politics to be completely ineffective either. If it were, our planet would have been destroyed by nuclear war long ago. No one here finds it an amazing accomplishment that 6 billion of us are able to share this planet? After all, there hasn't been a world war in 65 years and as long as global economic development continues there is no reason to expect another.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-10 23:03

>>21
There hasn't been another world war simply because if another one were to occur there would be no "winner". It has nothing to "global economic development" (whatever that is suppose to mean).

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-10 23:38

>>22
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_problem

Spoiler: Avatar is not real life, being a luddite is not "deep". Placing spirituality over materialism is often the cause of violence, stupidity and hate, not the other way around.

For instance a new age faggot will try to cure their kid's diabetes with healing crystals while a materialist capitalist bourgeois pig dog will cure their kid's diabetes using science, thus preventing suffering which is more real and tangible than "gaia" ever will be. Materialist capitalist bourgeois pigs are morally superior to new age faggots.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-11 0:20

>>23
I don't know what kind of angle you're trying to pull here, but what I said is true. No nation is seriously going to go to global nuclear war since they're going to lose everything as well as their "opponent". If I was some "Luddite" I wouldn't be here typing this right now. While the majority of humans are stupid and hateful, nobody is going to set off a nuclear weapon because there will simply be nothing left. You know it, I know it, even fucking Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-il know it.

I don't know what this has to do with "new age faggots" and you going off on your little child tangent there, but okay.

Name: one of many 2010-03-11 0:25

I agree. Nuclear war would produce no winner. I merely used nuclear war as an example to prove why politics is not a fruitless pursuit. Much politics goes into safely maintaining nuclear arms, nonproliferation, and the almost impossible goal of disarmament. These days all having nuclear weaponry will buy you is a seat in the UN security council.

On economic development:
 "Economic development is the increase in the amount of people in a nation's population with sustained growth from a simple, low-income economy to a modern, high-income economy.Its scope includes the process and every  policies by which a nation improves the economic, political, and social well-being of its people."

There's no denying that there is a direct link between a country's economic performance and vulnerability to civil strife. If you look at every country or region where conflict is occurring you will find that at the heart of each one is a portion of the population not getting its slice of the proverbial economic pie. The bigger a country's middle class the more peace a country will enjoy.

And by the way, why materialism may be an emotionally bankrupt pursuit, I'll take a world full of capitalist bourgeois pig dogs over christian radicals/muslim fundamentalist/jewish imperialists/ fucking hippies any day.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-11 0:33

The bigger a country's middle class the more peace a country will enjoy.
God damn, you hit the nail on the head right there. Fucking agreed. Problem is there is a widening gap between the classes and the middle class is slowly being wiped out.

Also, I would more accurately refer to them as "corporatist bourgeois pig dogs", there hasn't been true fee market "capitalism" for many decades now. But that's just me.

Name: one of many 2010-03-11 0:35

and on the economic problem: free market solutions work the best at solving the allocation of resources. the real problem lies in income inequality and redistribution of new found economic wealth. See India for example.

Name: one of many 2010-03-11 0:39

true...too much conflicting regulation and special interest intervention is choking the free market system...there is a delicate balance between the government and the economy. it's not an easy thing to get right

Name: one of many 2010-03-11 0:41

the ""luddite comment was pretty silly...lol

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-11 0:56

>>24
It was more in response to the comment
It has nothing to "global economic development" (whatever that is suppose to mean).
It seems to be today's hot ticket to claim that the progress of human civilisation and technology is somehow evil then act all smug and pretend to be thinking outside the box when it's a pretty mainstream conformist thing to do.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-11 1:49

>>30
Well, I wasn't inferring that. Just stating the a new world war will effectively be the very end of it. As for human civilization, well, it has its flaws, and needs improvement but could do worse I'd imagine. As for technology I find it to be annoying at times, yet useful. Those that think that way as you described are probably just hipster douchebags.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-11 19:04

>The bigger a country's middle class the more peace a country will enjoy.

I agree completely and, in my country, it is the class that suffers a lot. Low-class gets help from the government, and high-class can pay shit. Middle-class, doesn't get any help and has to pay tons of shit. Though to live I must say(and that is why my country is a bunch of shit).

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 13:53

Politics is politics. Everyone needs power. Power can be obtained through (primarily) military force and/or money. That is never, ever, going to change.

I'm a communist. If we became a classless society we could solve a lot of our current problems in politics.

>>32
Ya, and they are now too powerless to stop the perpetual abuse being hurled at them. They only serve as a buffer to stop the lower classes getting really, really angry. As they are inevitably going to. The middle classes of Western societies are becoming 21st century serfs and by weakness of will and the nature of our decrepit society, can and will not prevent their coming erosion

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-28 4:57

i think there so many things wrong with each and every one of us that they all balance themselves out, with only some poking out now and then over the time that we grow up most of us learn to control these imperfections making these go away, while some cnt control or are over whelmed by theirs and it spill out on to the street. some people posse more control than other and can deal with the same problems extremely different

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-28 5:10

>>33
>I'm a communist.
lol

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-29 9:22

This is exactly why I advocate super villainy.  Sometimes, humans don't appreciate their lives until a robot with a 12ft metal is trying to crush it out of them.  Also, hopefully this will help with the lack darwinistic influences on our gene pool as of recent

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-29 12:57

>>37
Jigsaw.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-29 19:51

>>37
How about you don't bother me with your giant robots just because the girl you had a crush on went with another girl to the prom while you had to go alone.

What do you want me to do? Have a montage moment and train for the next 5 years to become a monocyclist or some shit? Leave me alone, jeez.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-29 20:29

>>38
jigsaw was smalltime.  You really have to go the super science route if you want to bring the type of destruction and fear that will really get people's attention.  Everyone else is just a murderer or terrorist.  If you don't have giant claw wielding robots, mutant sharks in reverse-diving suits (that let them walk on land), or at least an alliance with a malevolent entity that allows you bring down demons and poltergeists, then don't even bother trying.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-29 20:59

>>40
Already been done, for 100000s of years you could say. War, ignorance, stupidity and beastliness is the natural state of things, peace is the change. It might not seem so having lived as a middle class in a 1st world country but this is only because of the efforts of millions before you who lived in much more violent times. Every war, mad tyrant, plague and famine was like the worst horror movie we can conjur up. Read "the leviathan" by hobbes, also this.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1695/1695.txt

"Nonsense!" said Gregory, who was very rational when anyone else
attempted paradox. "Why do all the clerks and navvies in the railway
trains look so sad and tired, so very sad and tired? I will tell you. It
is because they know that the train is going right. It is because they
know that whatever place they have taken a ticket for that place they
will reach. It is because after they have passed Sloane Square they know
that the next station must be Victoria, and nothing but Victoria. Oh,
their wild rapture! oh, their eyes like stars and their souls again in
Eden, if the next station were unaccountably Baker Street!"

"It is you who are unpoetical," replied the poet Syme. "If what you say
of clerks is true, they can only be as prosaic as your poetry. The rare,
strange thing is to hit the mark; the gross, obvious thing is to miss
it. We feel it is epical when man with one wild arrow strikes a distant
bird. Is it not also epical when man with one wild engine strikes a
distant station? Chaos is dull; because in chaos the train might indeed
go anywhere, to Baker Street or to Bagdad. But man is a magician, and
his whole magic is in this, that he does say Victoria, and lo! it is
Victoria. No, take your books of mere poetry and prose; let me read a
time table, with tears of pride. Take your Byron, who commemorates the
defeats of man; give me Bradshaw, who commemorates his victories. Give
me Bradshaw, I say!"

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-29 23:43

>>41
yeah we had to read all the enlightenment authors in "Making of the Modern World".  Still my favorite class I ever took.  That's the class where we read Margaret Sanger and found out she was a unrepentant eugenicist and saw planned parenthood as a way to control unwanted populations (poor people and minorities).  Anyway, I digress...

I agree that war and man's normal inhumanity to man is already doing this job, but it's obviously not doing a good enough job (or people forget very quickly).  Therefore, someone really needs to come along and step it a notch like hitler did.  When you have a bogey man like hitler to kick around, people remember what true evil looks like and the effect of dissuasion lasts longer.  PEOPLE WOULD REMEMBER WATCHING THEIR LOVED ONES TORN APART BY FUCKING METALLIC MONSTERS THIS I PROMISE.

I wish I had the heart to do it myself.  It's a shame it turns out I'm too much of a liberal pussy to do what I know to be right.  You just can't pretend to be super villain, super villainy must be in your heart.  You must have a passion for it (like hating the jews, though I personally like jews).  It's not one of those things you pick up along the way, you're born to it.  But imagine, if we had hitler with an army of robots or mutant land dwelling sharks, how nice people would be eachother after that?  The museums to peace cataloging the horror that would prevent future generations from going down the same path that we could make?  The films starring Liam Neeson where he is a robot but works to save as many humans as he can we could have?  Not even to mention the series made by tom hanks about our struggle to overcome the "metal mother" as she will come to be called...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-31 0:01

>>42
This isn't some dumb sociology class though, it's correct and relevant. Most enlightenment authors were retarded and most things we consider modern are as old as the human brain itself, I picked out those 2 things specifically because they are right.

Though it's an interesting point that horrific events can shake people out of their complacency, it is still contradictory, especially if it results in the death or generally ruins the life of those you are trying to teach, not to mention hypocritical, it is also pointless to drag those who are not complacent into the carnage and there is also the fact you cannot judge if someone is complacent or not, you are also a fallible human being who makes mistakes.

Holocaust museums are more event based than an analysis of the human condition, they do not suggest that barbarism is universal, they only say that robots/nazis are evil.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-31 11:28

>>43
it's not pointless if you believe the ends justify the means.  And if the goal is to create the most brutal and terrifying evil the world has ever seen so people will be cling together (whether in fear or brotherhood, they'll be clinging to eachother) and realize the ultimate futility of war, then isn't every death important in achieving that goal?  If it's not, then doesn't it make you another murderer or self absorbed half baked despot instead of a true mind bending super villain?

robot nazis huh?  You give me good ideas for my armies, please keep talking.

Name: 12FuckTheSystem14225 2010-03-31 17:36

George Washington when he left the Presidency warned that Parties would tear America to shreds. He was right. Bi-Partisanship is complete bullshit. Rather then say, "what would help the country?" policicians ask, "How can I make more money?", "Will I get reelected if I do this?", "Does my party support this?" etc.
This has been going on for ages. It is why Capitolism doesn't work. You have a government working for money, not the country. This is what communism and Marx wanted to fix, this also failed becouse it was to 'extream'. Now we have Socialism.
My Point is that Democracy is a great idea, much like communism. Then you get assholes who want more money, less taxes, more government programs and less government. So everyone knows you CAN'T do everything. Taxs and programs rise and fall together.
The Nazi's where an example of Democracies falts. Hitler was elected by the people. The jews were not killed by Hitler. He could not have killed millions of people alone. A genocide is an action by the people. Not a single person.
Take a look around. See how Fucked politricks is. It's like religion, asking for money, charity and other Shit. In return for salvation. What happens when Jesus kills God with a rusted crowbar? Your fucked. That is what has happend with the Democrats and Republican's.
I think I'm done ranting. For now...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-31 20:21

>>45
http://www.google.com/#q=%22geekyguy2%40gmail.com%22&hl=en&safe=off&filter=0&fp=caec63d5ff72707a

What is this faggotry?

Also, you cannot really blame "capitolism" [sic] since we haven't been on true capitalism for many decades at this point.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-01 6:45

Read Akumetsu.
To destroy the evil of political self interest you need to AKUMETSU 'EM!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-01 8:24

>>47
So basically maul them when they're about to have a sex orgy and kill yourself with a mask that you wear that can explode? Well, sounds fun.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-01 8:39

find a better country, become a hermit or an hero

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-01 8:58

>>49
What the fuck is wrong with this planet?
planet
>>49 suggests to find a "better" country on a crappy planet

lol

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-02 22:03

>>50
I suggest North Korea. I have a feeling you'd like it there.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-02 22:39

>>51
I'm not the OP.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-03 2:54

>>52
You could go together as a couple!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-03 4:29

>>53
NO THANK YOU Are you an queer!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-03 6:19

>>52
you mouth is the OP of the thread called your face

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-03 10:29

Seed life on other planets.

Blow up the earth.

???

Profit

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-04 6:51

>>55
You think your so though huh!
Okay you fuquin angered an expert political science major!
Politics is about ``abstract bullshite'' that you can never understand!
This is /newpol/!
Every thread will be replied to!
NO EXCEPTIONS!

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-04 12:54

>>57
oh please return to /prog/.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-05 6:06

>>58
After you

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Name: Anonymous 2010-04-07 5:00

I'd have to go with niggers, though arguably there may be some enlightened alien species out there who would consider us to be niggers. Who are we to judge?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-07 17:50

*African American

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-07 21:03

>>60
* African Americans

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 2:20

yes youre correct its all stupid but there is nothing one man can do about it, xcept bitch, which we all do cauze thats all we can. Unless u want to get violent about it, which im sure most do but don't have the balls to. Just put the rest of the world away and focus on your inner self and life.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-16 9:10

>>63
or you could like have a democracy and stuff then go vote

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