Capitalism kicks ass! Now that I'm rich, I don't have to work, and since there are no taxes on the rich, I can just keep making more and more money without any idea of what to do with it! Nevermind the fact that other people need this money more then I do, it's mine, and I deserve to keep it, even though I'll just use it to buy things which I don't need, then keep the rest for my son to inherit, so he doesn't have to do any work either!
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Anonymous2007-07-03 9:03 ID:PeLh8ea8
sounds like an ideal ideology for a dumbass.
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Anonymous2007-07-03 10:57 ID:YK6uWAC8
How the hell did you become rich?
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Anonymous2007-07-03 16:40 ID:hkPKg4h2
inherit it
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Anonymous2007-07-03 20:07 ID:DAsiMyxD
Poor people are poor because they're lazy.
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Anonymous2007-07-03 20:13 ID:IuoYJ/vD
>>5
True. They should stop menial work and just scam and rort the system like the rich.
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Anonymous2007-07-03 22:15 ID:sM5OI1Li
Poor people are poor because their labor is stolen every time a profit is made from their work by re-selling it back to them.
Why not hold a general labor strike? Simply don't have kids. Stop producing children. No more future work force.
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Anonymous2007-07-04 5:00 ID:yVZC/RKe
Society has lied to itself and told itself that all these words are synonyms which they are not.
Hard work
High pay
Intelligence
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Anonymous2007-07-05 4:58 ID:c+6Sp5I7
Work smarter, not harder, then you can get rich quick.
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Anonymous2007-07-05 5:52 ID:0DV9Iy/k
Work smarter, work harder, work faster, then you can get rich quick.
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Anonymous2007-07-05 6:42 ID:s0kOKOMx
Buy and sell a few guns you're a criminal.
Buy and sell them by the tonne and you're an invester.
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Anonymous2007-07-06 0:32 ID:4ikF5Me2
poor people are poor because they keep buying stuff with money they don't have. Interest is the price of money NOW instead of later and many people are working like dogs just to keep up with it.
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Anonymous2007-07-06 7:31 ID:LxRLguYu
The highest paying jobs like doctors, lawyers, athletes, movie stars, etc. They don't work hard.
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Anonymous2007-07-06 7:32 ID:LxRLguYu
Well actually I take that back. Some atheletes like the ones from the WWE train very hard to give the people a show.
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Anonymous2007-07-06 9:48 ID:bvSfHHNe
All of them work hard, even the movie stars.
Well, except if you define working hard by amount of manual labor but that would be moronic.
Doctors don't work hard? Last I checked it wasn't easy to open someone's chest and perform bypass surgery.
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Anonymous2007-07-08 16:28 ID:Fj3zDe1C
Spending most of your life reading in order to keep up ain't work, guys!
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Fuck, some days I just want to be a ditch-digger and never think again. :(
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Anonymous2007-07-09 14:59 ID:IVoD0D5l
Are not work related hazards also a criteria? If so, then one will find that a majority of vocations that pays a lot and requires high level degrees also has almost no hazards at all (fire fighting engineer is an exception, i assume there are others). Some vocations are pays a lot and does not require degrees, these are often dangerous jobs but which requires skilled labor (i.e. oilrig workers). Most jobs that pays little are dangerous, if one does it ones whole life. These jobs are not supposed to be careers, yet there are people who cant get any other job and who toils in this hell for all there life being paid nothing. This type of work is harder than being a doctor, and if one argues against that one is a moron.
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Anonymous2007-07-10 12:42 ID:N8WQs0+7
These doctors and lawyers sitting in their desks wouldn't last an hour doing real back breaking work.
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Anonymous2007-07-10 13:51 ID:nC0clmWW
And someone who does back bracking work wouldn't last 30 seconds doing surgery.
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Anonymous2007-07-11 21:37 ID:df+z9EKZ
>>22
And someone who does surgery wouldn't last 30 seconds doing back bracking work.
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Anonymous2007-07-12 0:42 ID:itaXRbBy
Surgery isn't as complicated as they make it sound. You can't prove those manual labourers are incapable of it because noone gives them a chance.
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Thelema2007-07-16 10:20 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
I like the sarcasm of the OP's post and I most heartily agree. I am definatly no Communist/libetarian but Capitalism gets my blood boiling. It's simply because they steal from the poor by way of taxes and control. It's a system that has been incorporated since the Feudal ages when lords could make money by governing thier peasants. I do think, that, as a Working class citizen (I am middle class but I work in engineering, I think that farming, research and manufacture is the only worthwhile work) it is simply our job to reject authority.
Remember, assinating a leader may save the masses.
If that's a joke then I don't get it.
I think you're trolling.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 11:31 ID:i6HXvICb
No one should say I didn't contribute anything, so just in case you're not trolling (very unlikely though):
Capitalists hate taxes.
Capitalism usually stands for laissez faire.
What you're talking about are the social democrats (not full socialists as the socialists don't want you to have any property at all) aka. Democratic Party (USA), Labour Party (UK), SPD & CDU (Germany. CDU are some kind of christian conservative socialists though) or ALP (Australia).
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Thelema2007-07-16 12:01 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>>27
laissez faire is Capitalism but Capitalism isn't laissez faire. But yes it was a mistake mentioning taxes, I posted in a hurry, but my original point still stands on the control of the poor.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 12:13 ID:+b09JedB
The problem with capitalism is clearly the poor. They are so lazy and stupid (their laziness and stupidity being completely their fault) that they cant pull themselves up by their bootstraps like good Americans. We should deport all of them to Mexico.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 12:14 ID:IJ/13+TI
The poor need to be controlled, because there's so damn many of them!
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Anonymous2007-07-16 12:21 ID:+b09JedB
controlled or executed?
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Anonymous2007-07-16 12:24 ID:IJ/13+TI
If you execute them, then who will maintain the sewers, etc?
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Thelema2007-07-16 12:25 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>>29
Capitalism runs on the poor. Because there are so many imports willing to do labour the rich can charge cents for the most menial labour work which is the essence of any system. Go on, deport them , sure, employment rates will rise.
>>34
Then unemployment rates will rise. There will be no need for class division. Etc Etc. I think you get the general jist of social repurcussions if this were true.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 12:38 ID:+b09JedB
>>35
Well, we can feed the unemployed the bodies of the ones we genocide. It will all work out. Or we can always turn poor people into currency for the rich.
Maintaining the sewers is actually a well paid job.
Those who work are not the problem.
The prices of most goods pend on the average American's wage.
You wouldn't gain anything by giving everyone $1000 extra as it would only cause an inflation.
Those who don't are the NIGGERS who ruin everything.
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Thelema2007-07-16 12:47 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>>37
you started off well but then you entered that damned train of thought that shouldn't be in /newpol/
Don't mock free speech. You'll miss it when it's gone.
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Thelema2007-07-16 13:18 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>>41
I'm not, I'm expressing a different point.
Oh yeah, Holocaust didn't happen.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 13:30 ID:C2TI5dCJ
social democratic fascist commucapitalism is the perfect government
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Anonymous2007-07-16 13:46 ID:YQUNdbo6
we don't have freedom of speech. why do people get arrested for saying certain things? because "They crossed the line". If there's a line than there's no real freedom of speech.
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Thelema2007-07-16 14:07 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>44
You can only give yourself freedom, people will always try to control it. Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law, as an example.
#45, surely you meant that our liberty is highly dependent upon the tolerance of others. Tolerance of individual liberty has been falling in the USA for decades and shows no sign of abating.
People will always have their desires, so we don't need to worry about people doing as they will. What the "whole of the law" should be instead is:
"Let your neighbor do what he wilt."
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Anonymous2007-07-16 17:08 ID:u7AnRWv7
What freedom of speech means to me. Being free to say any combination of sounds with your voicebox without fearing persecution or imprinsonment. Posting a picture of pornography in public is not "speech" it's an action.
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Thelema2007-07-16 18:06 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>>47 We weren't on about pornography >>46 Indeed you are correct, but as freedom is an illusion, the only way of creating it is by rebeling against your authorities, but then again this could be seen as a reaction and not real freedom. What I really mean is, freedom is only something that can be created by oneself, it is also your freedom to control other peoples freedom, because you have the freedom to do so, so if it were 'let your neighbor do what he wilt' You wouldn't have freedom. But yes, this is the perfect solution to the system, however yet creating another illusion of freedom. so if the system would have this slight control of freedom it will progress into more laws being established.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 18:47 ID:C2TI5dCJ
Thelema stop being a dumbshit naive communist hippy. You are being thoroughly trolled. I tell you this out of compassion.
>>49
>>dumbshit
Ad hominem applies here, also, I have stated more reason than you have.
I'm surely not naive, state your arguement as to why.
I'm not a communist.
I'm not a hippy.
You're being trolled.
If it were out of compassion you would of been more sympathetic.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 19:12 ID:C2TI5dCJ
>>51
haha wtf, the guy you have been speaking to believes the poor should be ground into meat to feed those out of work due to robots created to replace them by the rich and you think I am the one being trolled?
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Anonymous2007-07-16 19:15 ID:C2TI5dCJ
>>51
You are sort of cute even though you are so stupid.
>>55
You are trolled by someone when that person obviously doesn't take his opinion seriously. For example...
Troll: LOL NIGGER HITLER JEW COMMUNISTS
noob: omg hitler was an evil fascist not a communist or a slave of african heritage etc...
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Thelema2007-07-17 9:34 ID:b7bgpC07
>>56 I understand, and I took it as a joke, like I said
However I think he did take it seriously (normally I wouldn't think this, but look where we are....).
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how capitlaism sucks.2007-07-17 9:49 ID:GwHWhkqm
This documentary proves how america and capitalism is fail.