Capitalism kicks ass! Now that I'm rich, I don't have to work, and since there are no taxes on the rich, I can just keep making more and more money without any idea of what to do with it! Nevermind the fact that other people need this money more then I do, it's mine, and I deserve to keep it, even though I'll just use it to buy things which I don't need, then keep the rest for my son to inherit, so he doesn't have to do any work either!
Don't mock free speech. You'll miss it when it's gone.
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Thelema2007-07-16 13:18 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>>41
I'm not, I'm expressing a different point.
Oh yeah, Holocaust didn't happen.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 13:30 ID:C2TI5dCJ
social democratic fascist commucapitalism is the perfect government
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Anonymous2007-07-16 13:46 ID:YQUNdbo6
we don't have freedom of speech. why do people get arrested for saying certain things? because "They crossed the line". If there's a line than there's no real freedom of speech.
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Thelema2007-07-16 14:07 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>44
You can only give yourself freedom, people will always try to control it. Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law, as an example.
#45, surely you meant that our liberty is highly dependent upon the tolerance of others. Tolerance of individual liberty has been falling in the USA for decades and shows no sign of abating.
People will always have their desires, so we don't need to worry about people doing as they will. What the "whole of the law" should be instead is:
"Let your neighbor do what he wilt."
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Anonymous2007-07-16 17:08 ID:u7AnRWv7
What freedom of speech means to me. Being free to say any combination of sounds with your voicebox without fearing persecution or imprinsonment. Posting a picture of pornography in public is not "speech" it's an action.
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Thelema2007-07-16 18:06 ID:ZKhi+ZkY
>>47 We weren't on about pornography >>46 Indeed you are correct, but as freedom is an illusion, the only way of creating it is by rebeling against your authorities, but then again this could be seen as a reaction and not real freedom. What I really mean is, freedom is only something that can be created by oneself, it is also your freedom to control other peoples freedom, because you have the freedom to do so, so if it were 'let your neighbor do what he wilt' You wouldn't have freedom. But yes, this is the perfect solution to the system, however yet creating another illusion of freedom. so if the system would have this slight control of freedom it will progress into more laws being established.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 18:47 ID:C2TI5dCJ
Thelema stop being a dumbshit naive communist hippy. You are being thoroughly trolled. I tell you this out of compassion.
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>>dumbshit
Ad hominem applies here, also, I have stated more reason than you have.
I'm surely not naive, state your arguement as to why.
I'm not a communist.
I'm not a hippy.
You're being trolled.
If it were out of compassion you would of been more sympathetic.
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Anonymous2007-07-16 19:12 ID:C2TI5dCJ
>>51
haha wtf, the guy you have been speaking to believes the poor should be ground into meat to feed those out of work due to robots created to replace them by the rich and you think I am the one being trolled?
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Anonymous2007-07-16 19:15 ID:C2TI5dCJ
>>51
You are sort of cute even though you are so stupid.
>>55
You are trolled by someone when that person obviously doesn't take his opinion seriously. For example...
Troll: LOL NIGGER HITLER JEW COMMUNISTS
noob: omg hitler was an evil fascist not a communist or a slave of african heritage etc...
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Thelema2007-07-17 9:34 ID:b7bgpC07
>>56 I understand, and I took it as a joke, like I said
However I think he did take it seriously (normally I wouldn't think this, but look where we are....).
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how capitlaism sucks.2007-07-17 9:49 ID:GwHWhkqm
This documentary proves how america and capitalism is fail.