I have a local Methodist Church near my house, and I have to say the people who attend there are absolutely the nicest, kindest, and most understanding people I've ever met. Their whole life is dedicated to helping others. I don't get their religion, but I can totally respect them as good people.
And Muslims? They kill their daughters, ritually scar their sons, beat and rape their wives, and bring their shit caveman culture to all corners of the world, destroying everything in their path.
Christians are superior to those fucking sandnigger bums.
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Anonymous2007-06-12 14:08 ID:CcO85CRs
Christians pretend to be good on Sunday but the rest of the week they do drugs, see prostitutes, and do other sins.
But not just Christians, all religions are fucked up.
Love GOD, not religion.
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Anonymous2007-06-12 20:11 ID:xC/OwsXS
>>7
Some religions are better than others. For instance lots of religions (whatever religion mahatma and teresa followed) are better than the religion of atheism (the religion of hitler nad stalin).
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Anonymous2007-06-12 20:14 ID:spI+XhW7
>>8
No religion is "better". Even Buddhists have a dark history.
Atheism is not a religion fool. It's a philosophy.
To repeat, no religion is "good". All have been twisted. Open your fucking eyes.
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Anonymous2007-06-13 6:07 ID:PnqX3M5R
>>5
what do you mean "jews get away with thier religion?"
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Anonymous2007-06-13 6:11 ID:OvCgwej5
>>10
If you have to ask... There's no point showing the obvious to the obviously blind.
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Anonymous2007-06-13 7:38 ID:+/Isi9o6
>>1
So white trash don't beat their wives and daughters? How many muslims do you actually know who beat their wives and daughters? Why do you think that if such culture wouldn't fit for the people living in this area then there wouldn't already be different culture? Why do you assume that the muslims beat their family for no reason? Don't you know that physical pain is the best punishment for any crime as physical pain will be remembered for a much longer time than mental pain, and as such will make sure that the crime won't be committed again? Why do you taunt them for spreading their genes and culture on a wider area than us, even though as a life-form a humans only real goal is spreading his genes? So christians haven't tried to spread their culture all around the world destroying everything in their path?
Yes or no, do you personally know a Muslim who beats his wife and kids. I don't know a single one. I do know a few Christians who beat their families though.
Found more than a few blogs accuse them of being jewish! LOL!
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Anonymous2007-06-13 17:33 ID:+/Isi9o6
>>15
Nope, I'm just stupid. Answer the other questions, though.
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Anonymous2007-06-13 18:58 ID:MH2KeIyW
LAWL
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Anonymous2007-06-14 11:24 ID:vKFvc9fx
>>9 >>17
Sorry. Atheism is JUST another religion. Atheists just bitch on religions so people think they can't possibly be a religion when in truth they are acting exactly like a religion. Since they don't recognise that they themselves are just another religion their beliefs are possibly the most dangerous and volatile WHEN they become extremists, since there will be no avenues for self-criticism.
A Christian can at least say "Our religion must not be like evil religions.", if an atheist tried he would be responded to with "Atheism is not a religion fool. It's a philosophy.". If atheism is not a religion it certainly acts like one.
Stop being ignorant of the facts in exactly the same manner as a christian fundamentalist is ignorant of the facts which prove evolution occurs!
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Anonymous2007-06-14 12:12 ID:HNiPBU9L
>>22
i suppose you can call atheism a religion if you want to, but at least compared to other religions it'll stand out because it's the lack of belief in a god / gods. At the same time there is no institutionalization of atheism, there are no atheist churches or atheist monks. An Atheist is simply what you are called when you do not follow any of the other existing religions.
If you look up religion it's described as "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe...", and i suppose you could call atheism that if you say that atheism is the belief that there are no gods, rather than the lack of belief that there are gods.
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Anonymous2007-06-14 14:02 ID:BYsN/mMG
Today I was mulling over why some people are born brain dead and what a waste of a life that is.
I started considering if there was a God who was benevolent and omniscient as many Western Religions say, then why would such a god create invalids to live their lives without free thought -- Something which God in the Christian tradition provided in creation.
Then I wandered onto the point that inheritable traits such as eye color, hair color, intelligence and genetics are understood by most contemporary religions, and thus they'd understand exactly why little Jimmy can't form sentences -- a contingency existed when he was created by genes that inheritable idiocy would have been a likely factor.
Thus, I conclude that by this simple understanding of genetics creating the persons traits of religious people, and all aberrations of genetics are accounted for by both mother and father, that natural selection is proven and thus, the E word -- Evolution, which discounts creation.
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Anonymous2007-06-14 14:04 ID:E4hJaPYs
>>23
Granted, also congruent with this is the fact that religion doesn't cause the problems some religions perpetuate, they were there to begin with and religion just provides the organisational structure for these problems to become epic. What matters is how the religion operates. Yes, perhaps atheism is a better religion, however I have never found an atheist willing to admit that atheism is just another religion which gives them a convenient excuse not to criticise themselves as they criticise other religions. Dawkins and such like calling for a unified atheist movement against other religions may create religion that is worse than the religions they constantly bitch whine about. A religion founded on the conviction not of some silly myths, but on the very belief that they are superior to other religions itself. No need for indoctrination from birth followed by some fallacies whipped up to make people fear outsiders, just make it the core of your belief system!
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Anonymous2007-06-14 14:07 ID:E4hJaPYs
>>24
All discussion about god beyond proof is pointless. There is no logical fallacy that disproves god since god can do whatever it wants.
I understand this very well, I'm very much into Philosophy and I enjoy Kierkegaard's framing of faith in Fear and Trembling to where faith can only be absurd and proven on its own nature of absurdity.
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Anonymous2007-06-14 14:35 ID:E4hJaPYs
>>27
How did someone expand such a simple sentence as "There is no logical fallacy that disproves god since god can do whatever it wants." into an entire book?
Because it's central to why people of faith do whatever the fuck they want to and attribute it to God without consequence because God is not physically connected to the world, only faith gives them access to God.
In Fear and Trembling, the action is Abraham killing his son on the commandment of God. Now the question posed is, why is it right for Abraham to kill when God both says not to kill and to kill. It is the laws of man that say you should not kill, and yet the same laws of man commanded by a God, God tells Abraham to kill Isaac. What Kierkegaard concludes is, Abraham does it out of faith, and from this action, we as outside observers must conclude that the actions of the faithful, or "Knights of Faith" do whatever the fuck they want to on the direction of God regardless if whether or not what God says makes sense or is founded in logical/illogical grounds.
Make sense now? Having faith = Do whatever the fuck you want and do whatever the fuck you want because faith can neither be proven or dis-proven, because "God said so."
Then again, Reductio ad Hitlerum is a logical fallacy.
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Anonymous2007-06-14 21:47 ID:PP4Eaja2
You know, because the crusades weren't awful or anything... Killed millions of innocent muslims. A shame.
Muslims killing 4,000 Americans? How Terrible! Let's bomb the shit out of them!
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Anonymous2007-06-14 21:50 ID:PP4Eaja2
Also, OP is a fucking dumbass who needs to learn about religion before opening his redneck mouth.
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Anonymous2007-06-15 0:03 ID:kRaCxu2A
Ah, so the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the White House are just and moral revenge for a war nine hundred years ago?
You do know that the USA didn't even EXIST in the 12th Century, right?
I personally think that deathcultists like Osama and the Ayatollahs are a bit more motivated by the fact that every day, just by existing, the USA demonstrates that their culture is backwards, repugnant, and made of epic fail.
The USA put a man on the Moon in 1969. The current terrorist war by Islam against the West began in earnest with the Munich Olympics murders by the PLO in 1972. Coincidence? I think not.
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Anonymous2007-06-15 0:42 ID:4Ckicrz3
Uh. No.
For quite a while, Islamic society was the pinnacle of scientific and cultural developments. The schism between Sunni and Shiite in part brought them into the feuds they have today.
Most Muslims are peace loving people. The radical ones are the ones who attack, and the media (FOX) loves to portray the whole religion as evil, yet no one cares about the radical Christians who bomb gay bars or abortion clinics.
Israel is not the west, Black September was justified in killing the pig occupiers.
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Anonymous2007-06-15 0:43 ID:FF8RtEE4
>>35
It's the same with blacks, Hispanics, Russians, Indians and Asians. In the case of the Russians, Indians and Asians it's healthy competition. In the case of blacks, Hispanics and Muslims it's self-destructive unbased jealousy and hatred. They've fallen for the flaws of hubris hook line and sinker. Instead of shaking hands, being a good sport and working harder they have fallen for the flaws of hubris by ignoring reality itself instead of working to improve it.
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Anonymous2007-06-15 0:50 ID:7/0QTj5e
EVERY STORY IN THE BIBLE IS A LIE, INCLUDING JESUS' MIRACLES AND JESUS HIMSELF
Well, someone like Jesus did live in Israel 2000 years ago, or they wouldn't have written 40+ gospels about him. Jesus was actually a great guy, one of the first socialists, it's the assholes after him that started bending his teaching in a way that made the religion a tool of power.
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Anonymous2007-06-15 9:19 ID:aTrb3GGJ
>>40
Jesus Christ was invented so white men could kill jews (and thereby eliminate their debts) with clean consiences. Jesus was a jew who loved arabs, thereby the jews killed him for this blasphemy.
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Anonymous2007-06-15 10:37 ID:85OtCaOF
That ignorant hypocrite Pat Robertson had a guest ex-Muslim fundamentalist on his show The 700 Club. They both discussed how evil they think Islam is and they both reached the false conclusion that Allah is Satan.
>>48
So according to you 1 jew is worth 7 million whites?
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Anonymous2007-06-15 17:59 ID:kRaCxu2A
moar liek Jehovah's Witlesses, amirite?
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Anonymous2007-06-15 18:03 ID:GT7x8LU2
>>50
I didn't say that. 1 jew is worth 1 white. I dunno why I even said >>48.
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Anonymous2007-06-16 2:34 ID:ZXgKW0/1
>>52
The Jews orderred his death, they made the decision. The Romans were just a bunch of thugs. Much like how Hitler orderred the holocaust and his thugs carried it out. Was hitler innocent? Many jewish children were raped during the holocaust, are you saying they deserved it? Would you have raped these children? Did you rape all these children? The answer is yes. Unless you change your opinion.
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Anonymous2007-06-16 4:50 ID:FCg4EmGS
Case in point. All your fucking religions are fucked up. Just read >>1 to >>53
Do whats right. Not whats "religious" and hiding behind that fucking BULLSHIT. All of you. Yes even you fucking Buhddists hiding up the back there...
The only ones who claim otherwise are the same people who gladly would kill 6 million jews, so the discussion is moot. Now plz be an hero for der Fuhrer.
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Anonymous2007-06-16 18:28 ID:8ERS3mFs
Spoiler: Holocaust is real but far from unique or even really unusual in recent history.
See also, Gulag Archipelago, Soviet mass murder of thirty million Ukrainians just before beginning of World War II, Chinese laogai death-camps for political dissidents, horrifically brutal Japanese occupation of China, Turkish genocide against Armenians and Kurds, Khmer Rouge mass murder of 1/3 of Cambodian population, centuries-long endless genocidal warfare and slavery in sub-Saharan Africa, and on, and on, and on.
The idea that Jews are uniquely innocent victims to be pitied and catered to above all others on earth, is agitprop from Jew TV, Jew newspapers, Jew movie studios.
The idea that it is always the most horrific possible crime to expel or exterminate a criminal parasitic group of useless eaters who've worn out their welcome is likewise Jew agitprop. i.e., Gypsies, incurable mental defectives, Gypsies, Arabs, and Gypsies. Did I mention Gypsies?
You read Norman Finkelstein's The Holocaust Industry? He had the exact same point and I agree with him, it's Alan Dershowitz and the Israeli Zionists that exhalt The Holocaust to a status of eternal victimhood thus allowing them to get away with whatever they want to.
ZOMG LOLLOERCAUST I WRITE ALL IN CAPS AND LICK DICK.
now that i have lowered myself to this level of retardism, i can talk to you guys without fear of losing a few iq points.
so, wut whas th4 questioaaan? oh right, there was no "questioaaan" to begin with, there was this statement that all muslims were motherfuckers who blow shit up. congrats, you are a media whore.
yeah christians who get abortions are for sure hypocritical. i just don't think you'll find too many devout christians getting abortions, or even sleeping around for that matter.
>>77
nice christian, nice muslim = doesn't actually follow religion
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Anonymous2007-06-18 21:11 ID:/+X/IgXI
Religions are supposed to stop people being assholes. Christianity has done a better job. Unless they work equally well and because islam was created 700 years after christianity the islamists are 700 behind the west or something in that order. Even so it would be simpler to convert all muslims to christianity.
No. Christianity has done the worst, it's adherents going straight from persecuted to persecutors upon gaining Rome, and having further inspired Islam to emulate it.
>>86
Dont give my communism a bad name by lumping us together with the christians. Remember, premier communist fighter Ronald Reagan had a black belt in christianity.
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Anonymous2007-06-19 11:11 ID:oQ7XGn7Z
Jesus wasn't white.
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Anonymous2007-06-19 14:12 ID:5ymBJh9G
JESUS WAS A WOMAN
or at least he wanted to be
that's why he dressed in robes all the time
"You walked on our God, the moon! For that you must die!"
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Anonymous2007-06-19 19:07 ID:bnPktXg+
In 1987, a young woman named Holly Ackerman was killed in a bizarre cult ritual. Now that you have read her name, she will come to you in the night and pay you a horrifying visit. You MUST do the following:
I think when discussing religion, each should be separated into religious philosophy and religious practice.
What i mean is that we should make a distinction between the philosophy espoused by the religious scripture and the people who have built a religion around that philosophy.
Like tao jia (taoist philosophy) and tao jio (taoist religion). The former is quite nice, whereas the latter some may call superstitious and crazy.
When we're speaking of Christian philosophy, there are many good values and morals that we can all learn from, and it has far fewer glaring moral points to attack, although the metaphysical aspects are clearly open for criticism.
However, it is sometimes difficult to separate the philosophy from the religion. For example, when paul wrote that gay sex was immoral, was it simply his own bias and prejudice masqueraded as Christianity, or is it a part of the core philosophy?
Anyway, looking only at the religious philosophy of the major world religions, i think the eastern religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, taoism, Jainism...) are especially interesting.
Of course you can criticize the acts of Buddhist monks or other eastern followers of the past (although even these are far less severe than their western counterparts), i dont think there is much to attack on morals and the way we should live our lives.
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Anonymous2007-06-19 20:07 ID:IDc1i4Bv
tl;dr
religion is of utter worthlessness, it hinders morals progress.. we already practiced the morals it teaches (except Buddhism)
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Anonymous2007-06-19 20:29 ID:DyAd6FE6
>>96
Out of all religions Buddhism is at least giving it a shot at changing the sins of the past.
I agree. Though I'm torn between my interest in Eastern Religion and the thought of finding a Western alternative.
It's my personal belief that one shouldn't go stealing other religions until they've made an honest inquiry into their own native culture. Western Culture does have some things that the East kept.
Buddhist? Have you never heard of the Gnostics? The Hermes Trismegistus cult? Some of the Western Pagan religions had mysteries and deep philosophies, many of which were lost upon the Christianization of Europe.
Same with Native Americans. The Norse had a similar rite to the Native American "vision quest", they had animal traditions, they have all kinds of similar traditions.
>>99
"It's my personal belief that one shouldn't go stealing other religions until they've made an honest inquiry into their own native culture."
I totally agree. Although i am from the east, so i am biased.
On another note, it makes me sad that the Muslims and Christians think it's their god given duty to convert the heathens of the east. Eastern philosophy is unique and beautiful in its own way. I wish the judeo-christian religions could've just let them be. I think the east definitely done without Islam and Christianity.
Thank you, though I suppose I can't take all the credit. I learned this from some Native Americans I talked to on Beliefnet. They're tired of "NA" weeaboos coming in and demanding that they be allowed into the ceremonies and so on. Then the weeaboos demand that the natives change for them. They hate that shit, cause it makes their religion nothing more than a toy for rich white weeaboo. I'm sure there are those who are genuinely interested, but I would think they'd *join the tribe* rather than simply come in twice a month.
By Minerva, that's fucked up. If you want to get close to nautre, look to your own traditions. You don't need to steal Shinto, Hinduism or Buddhism. If you want to be closer to the earth, look to your own ancestors -- the Celts, the Norse, the Greeks and Romans. If you want to be like the Buddhists, there are any number of mystery schools in paganism, or gnostics, or something else.
Totally. Whenever I hear the word 'yoga' in the west, it makes me cringe. It's exactly as you described. They don't know the first thing about yoga, some don't even know it's from Hinduism and the purpose is to unite oneself with Brahman, not some popular fad exercise system.
LOL EASTERN RELIGIONS ARE FOR WEEABOOS AND HIPPIES
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Anonymous2007-06-20 18:24 ID:SGhT6Snw
In 1987, a young woman named Holly Ackerman was killed in a bizarre cult ritual. Now that you have read her name, she will come to you in the night and pay you a horrifying visit. You MUST do the following: