I'm not American but I think that Hilary Clinton should become the next president because the fundamentalist Krazy KKKristian neocon Zionist war mongers have terrorized the world for too long, Hilary would also probably allow stem cell research and besides I have always thought she is a cute MILF ;) and it is about time America had it's first female president. If Hilary was president America and the world would be a better place.
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Anonymous2007-01-06 10:01
have you heard her stances, she is such a hypocritical flip flopper.
I don't like gay marriage, but then again I don't want to make a law out of it.
I don't like abortion, but we shouldn't amend it
She also wants to protect the children.
Obama sucks also,he has been in politics for what? 3 years?
God, why can't we get a Green or Libertarian in office
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Anonymous2007-01-06 10:05
There's nothing more dagerous, scary and untrustworthy than adult women, especially the older ones.
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Anonymous2007-01-06 12:21
>>1
All I have to say is...if you want to fuck Hillary, there is something very very wrong with you. Her own husband won't even tap that ass.
>>2 is more or less correct. She's a career politician with nothing of real substance to her. She's also quite clumsy at politics; the only reason she has been so successful is her association with Bill.
However, we all know the president has absolutely nothing to do with the running of the country; it's all about who they bring with them (Chaney, Rumsfeld, et al. have way more to do with the direction of the country than Bush, in other words).
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Anonymous2007-01-06 16:06
Oh gawd, I'd rather have Kerry in office than Hilary. Everything Hilary does reaks with "fake." I don't think I've ever seen her show a genuine smile or take a stance she can firmly believe in. I'm no big fan of liberals, but I'd take just about anyone over Hilary.
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Anonymous2007-01-06 16:38
Chinese:Why did you bomb our country??!
Hillary:oh, you know >:(
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Anonymous2007-01-07 0:43
Obama rules, he's the closest thing to a Green that the Democrats have. And the less someones been in politics the better quite frankly, its a filthy business.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 3:17
>>1
"I'm not American but I think that Hilary Clinton should become the next president because the fundamentalist Krazy KKKristian neocon Zionist war mongers have terrorized the world for too long, Hilary would also probably allow stem cell research and besides I have always thought she is a cute MILF ;) and it is about time America had it's first female president. If Hilary was president America and the world would be a better place."
You are sadly misinformed. I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the fact is is that Hillary Clinton is more pro-war than many of the neo-conservatives. She has actually critisized the Bush administration for not being aggressive enough in terms of foreign policy, and was indeed pushing for war with Iran a while ago.
>>1
"Hilary would also probably allow stem cell research"
The issue at hand is not whether or not people are 'allowed' to conduct stem-cell research, the issue at hand is whether or not the government will handle it, or the market.
"and it is about time America had it's first female president"
This is one of the more sexist comments I have seen. The gender of the president is not important. What is important is the president's policy, and how they stand on the issues.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 3:52
kerry > gore > a goat > barack > hillary
I don't care if they are yet another white male president. Besides you get both black and female with Condo and she will be president, no exceptions.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 5:17
Obama and Hilary both suck.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 19:07
^yes
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Dr. Science2007-01-07 22:43
>>11
I have rationally analysed this statement and I have come to the conclusion that it is 100% correct. Well done.
Explain how Obama "sucks". Please be specific and include links. He opposes the war and wants a phased pullout, which already makes him better than Hilary.
But his middle name is Hussein! And that - that *woman*... She is from San Fransisco and she is assertive and-and-and George Clooney starred in Syriana and-and-and-and FEMINISTS ARE LOOOOOUUUUD AND SCAAAARY!!!!
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Anonymous2007-01-08 14:47
>>14
Obama sucks cause he hasn't done anything, he has been politics for a couple years and essentially is a demagogue
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Xel2007-01-08 14:51
>>22 So America's political scene is disgusting, corrupted and congress should be ousted but somehow not being part of it for very long is a weakness?
I think he should be elected just so that the racist enclave of the LP (oh yeah, and they are plentiful) have something more to weep about.
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Anonymous2007-01-08 16:08
Oh god its Xel
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Anonymous2007-01-09 0:51
>>22
what >>23 said. When you are in politics for a long time you become John Kerry or John McCain and you compromise your beliefs for your party's beliefs or the prez's beliefs or whoever will vote for you's beliefs. Obama doesn't do that, he says what he means and he means what he says. And yes, he's affable, it's about damn time we have a president who you know, knows how to talk.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 1:08
>>25
Obama appeals to extremist liberals. More bureaucracy, more declaring the middle class "rich" and taxing them as though they own 51% of Shell, abuse of the anti-racist movement by declaring all political critics to be secret racists, more ridiculous welfare schemes that turn otherwise motivated active people into unmotivated lay abouts, overpopulating mass immigration and lopsided economic policies, tax, regulation and subsides.
The Democrats need a Bill Clinton or a JFK, not an Obama. He would still be a better candidate than Hillary though. I'd just be highly concerned if Obama were elected, but if Hillary became president I'd shoot myself in the face.
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Xel2007-01-09 3:51
>>26 Obama's rethoric seems far away from that kind of legislation.
"I'd just be highly concerned if Obama were elected, but if Hillary became president I'd shoot myself in the face." And that is a really deterring possibility for the rest of us is it?
You fucking fail so hard right now that I've got a nose-bleed. It's so painfully obvious that you're talking out of ass. You have no proof for the shit you speak and not even google.com can fuckin' save you.
Obama isn't a Kerry, a Clinton, or a JFK...and THAT'S why he should be elected. Surely, you don't think we need another 4 or 8 years of same shit from the same type of people? You can't just throw the word liberal around and expect that to be a good argument. Shit son, you're not even TRYING.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 10:37
>>27
You are shitting me capuccino and cream... He spouts the same "REPUBLIKKKANS ARE EVIL KKKAPITALISTS BLEEURGH!!" nonsense like every liberal you hear on the internet and across the country and he votes for the most liberal policy at every turn without exception. Not that this is unusual for democrats.
"And that is a really deterring possibility for the rest of us is it?"
Because you pathologically hate anyone who criticises the democrat party? Go ahead, you will lose 2008 because Hillary is a crazy bitch.
>>28
Can you be more specific? What is the difference between Kerry, a Bill Clinton, or a JFK and Obama?
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Xel2007-01-09 11:58
>>29 "Because you pathologically hate anyone who criticises the democrat party? Go ahead, you will lose 2008 because Hillary is a crazy bitch." No, I don't. I have a natural aversion towards anyone who makes unfounded claims. You are the hater here. And how would your suicide (or hilarious disfigurement) be *deterring* for someone across the atlantic? It's hardly a perk but it sure as motherfuck is no skin of my nose.
And I assure you that Clinton's sanity is in much less questioning than yours. Also, using the word bitch will not land you much respect among those brains have not been filled with racoon-fur and NRA brochures.
"Kerry, a Bill Clinton, or a JFK and Obama?" Bush, Condoleeza, Goldwater and Guliani? Your cynic psuedo-libertarian memes won't do.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 12:08
>>30
I've already given you the proof you've needed, yet you have completely ignored it and now you admit that you support tyranny and would enjoy seeing your political opponents "horrifically disfigured".
""Kerry, a Bill Clinton, or a JFK and Obama?" Bush, Condoleeza, Goldwater and Guliani? Your cynic psuedo-libertarian memes won't do."
What the fuck?
Stay in Sweden you psychotic motherfucker.
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Xel2007-01-09 13:36
>>31 Proof? You have plenty reason to shoot yourself now...
"What the fuck?" All you can do is call some democrats peas in a fascist pod, like all simple-minded high-school/college libertarians that spot this decent, possibly superior ideology. I can think of no one that has made a hard case founding such a statement.
"Stay in Sweden you psychotic motherfucker." No, I want to go to America! I love the idea of living in a society where people have to pay for ambulance rides and the idea of commons is thrown out the window.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 13:45
>>32
You were What the fuck'd for a good reason. Explain yourself! Also you seem to know more about the US than you know about Sweden, so why don't you just live here already.
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Xel2007-01-09 13:49
He did not provide proof for his very sweeping statement, and neither have I. he made his claim, and when he has founded it so will I. His words are no more supported than mine, but at least I make no pretense that mine are.
Lets see, just a few weeks ago you critisized me for my willingness to vote republican because I prefer the freedom to keep and bear arms over the freedom to kill fetuses, claiming that this was wrong.
NOW, you are advocating voting for Obama, and in effect choosing one set of liberties over another.
Still have no proof of the shit you speak about Obama. Fail less, lurk moar.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 19:17
>>39
Sorry,>>38 is retarded, My problem with Obama has done nothing, and needs to at least need to be in politics for at least 5 more years to see who he really is, I don't give a shit that he can talk good, he needs to actually do something.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 22:24
>>40
Read The Audacity of Hope. He talks about pretty much every issue, and his plan to fix it. And having a plan already makes him a lot better than most Democrats.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 0:23
>>41
By calling bushes social security policy "social darwinism"? Is whipping up extremist liberal paranoia and talking like a child the qualities you look for in a leader? IT's also obvious he doesn't care about the human right of the 2nd amendment. This is the reason why democrats always choose center left leaders, because if they didn't their party would be overrun by proto-socialists.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 1:01
>>42
"By calling bushes social security policy "social darwinism"?"
That is basically what it is.
"Is whipping up extremist liberal paranoia and talking like a child the qualities you look for in a leader?"
Still have yet to see any examples of this.
"When we send our young men and women into harm's way, we have a solemn obligation not to fudge the numbers or shade the truth about why they're going, to care for their families while they're gone, to tend to the soldiers upon their return, and to never, ever go to war without enough troops to win the war, secure the peace, and earn the respect of the world."
I see what you mean, I hear children talking like that ALL the time.
"IT's also obvious he doesn't care about the human right of the 2nd amendment."
Wrong. Gun control != taking away the right to keep and bear arms.
Xel is compromising on some freedoms to support wiminz rights to kill fetuses, among others, even though he critisized me for expressing the possibility that I might do the same, but for the republican party rather than the democratic party. Hypocrisy anyone? Again, "do as I say, not as I do".
GOGOGOGO XEL! SUPPORT OBAMA/CLINTON 08!
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Anonymous2007-01-10 8:40
what freedom is xel compromising freedoms by supporting abortion?
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Xel2007-01-10 9:46
>>44 I would not vote for Obama since it would be mighty greasy of me to prioritize non-financial liberalism over financial liberalism (I count the purchasing of guns as a financial right that applies to all wares but still feel unconvinced that carrying rights are entirely unproblematic). I would, if it turned out that he was the lesser evil (libertarian meme) of any candiadate promote him as the best shot for libertarians and democrats alike. But I can not be sure of that yet, of course. >>45 The freedom of oblivious faux-libertarians and christianists to tell women when byproducts of their bodies are worth more than them.
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advisor you need2007-01-10 10:09
Protip: If you have to vote for an ultra-liberal ghetto trash crowd pleaser, support Obama over Hillary. Though I strongly suggest you go with Kerry for a while. If this is about getting a black president, I don't give a shit, just don't vote in a black president who has all the worst qualities of a liberal otherwise it will stain history, wait until Obama matures a little.
>>1 here. Sorry for my ignorant comments. Hilary and her husband are both Zionist enemies of America. Didn't Bill once say he would take up arms to defend Israel against the Arabs?!?
Being from the UK, in hindsight, I would say never let a woman become President, we have a female head of State, the Queen and we had a female Prime Minister Thatcher who have wrecked our country. Thatcher was elected as an MP by predominatly Jewish voters, after Israel caused the oil shocks in the 1970's the blight-wing decided that the left was to blame for the economic crisis and it was decided that everything had to be privatised, so Thatcher did so and wrecked our country, also that bitch Thatcher gave away our national sovereignty to the EU. Fuck Labour and Tory and Liberal bitchs we need a National Revolution to destroy capitalism. I live in a supposedly rich tory retirement town and yet I can't walk down the street without being harrassed by agressive beggars and can't leave the house at night without being attacked by drunken yobs, the government allows homelessness to exist just to say "if you step out of line this will happen to you" and it allows yobs to terrorize people into accepting new laws that restrict our freedoms. The government are all powerful and could end these problems tommorow if they wanted to. They are laughing in our faces. Comrades we need a revolution to destroy the Blair regime and establish a people's republic like North Korea or Cuba.
I still think Obama is the least bad candidate the dems or reps could nominate. I don't like his gun politics but at least he isn't a hawkish pro-war like Hilary or wants to make it illegal for minors to play M games like Hilolry or any other of her crazy ideas. And the Republicans don't have a single decent candidate, and I'm not voting green or libertarian until we have some form of runoff voting. Basically Obama>Vilsack>>Hilary>>>>>>>Republican candidates.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 13:48
>>52
I'd vote for most of the republican candidates before I'd vote for Obama.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 13:57
>>52
Yeah, Hillary sure is one crazy bitch... I don't agree with your support for Obama though. I'd vote libertarian before I'd vote for any of those assholes.
>>46
"I would not vote for Obama since it would be mighty greasy of me to prioritize non-financial liberalism over financial liberalism (I count the purchasing of guns as a financial right that applies to all wares but still feel unconvinced that carrying rights are entirely unproblematic)."
"I would, if it turned out that he was the lesser evil (libertarian meme) of any candiadate promote him as the best shot for libertarians and democrats alike."
Why would you promote an asshole? Promote a libertarian in his place.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 18:04
>>52
"and I'm not voting green or libertarian until we have some form of runoff voting"
Why the fuck not? You voting for a libertarian candidate rather than a democratic candidate is simply not likely to sway the election. If the democrats win, they will win whether you vote for them or not. If you want to make your vote count, cast a protest vote for the libertarian party.
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Anonymous2007-01-14 20:06
How about this? Let's hire some nameless bum to be the president. I prefer a goat though...
>>54 I will take all statistics on the gun issue with a pinch of salt, whatever the source or the message. Correlation =/= Causation. The numbers are clear and you deserve respect for posting them, but color me unconvinced.
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Anonymous2007-01-15 5:04
>>55
Because that's just what I find best. With Obama especially because I am not forfeiting many of my views. Right now there is shit on my plate, and I'd rather order the cheeseburger and get it than order the worlds best pizza when I know there is no chance that they will make it, because a cheeseburger is a lot better than a steaming pile of shit. Sorry that is kind of a stupid analogy but I think you get the point. In 2004 I would've voted green because kerry was like a bowl of piss soup.
Regardless, I will try to do as much as I can to a better voting system.
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Annonyous2007-01-15 6:44
You all suck shit. Hilary would be awesome. >>60
You're too pussy to actually vote for who you want.
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Anonymous2007-01-15 12:03
>>61
That's not a very compelling argument. Maybe that is enough to sway the ordinary Hillary supporter, but not someone with an IQ over 90.
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Xel2007-01-15 14:40
>>62 I kinda think more stupid people reject Hilary instantaneously than favor her instantaneously. It is just that statement, I'm not implying anything else by it.
I'm just gonna bump http://www.friesian.com/ that site as well because it contains a lot of facts. It has a tendency to slant towards harangues and acerbity but then again all libertarians do.
>>61
RAAAWWWWR INTERNET TOUGH GUY DOES NOT FORGIVE
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Anonymous2007-01-16 8:23
>>63
Obsolete 200 years ago. They are all Kant re-iterators, in fact Kant predicted that peopel would redefine his discoveries in a more concice manner, but I bet he never expected people to claim the credit for his work in the process of doing so. It is as pointless as re-inventing mathematics.
If you are not a marxist or arrogant you would buckle down and study logic, political science and psychology. This is the utilisation of Kant's ideas and the equivalent in point as utilising mathematics to explore cartesian geometry.
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Anonymous2007-01-16 10:06
Nader.
If Hilary and Jeb run for Pres, I'm going to Canada.
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Anonymous2007-01-16 12:16
Jeb won't running for president.
Hilary? No way I will vote for she-male Hilary!
USA is FUCKED!
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Anonymous2007-01-17 15:21
>>60
"Because that's just what I find best. With Obama especially because I am not forfeiting many of my views."
You should vote for the best candidate of them all, not the lesser of two evils, in any circumstance.
"Right now there is shit on my plate, and I'd rather order the cheeseburger and get it than order the worlds best pizza when I know there is no chance that they will make it, because a cheeseburger is a lot better than a steaming pile of shit."
Your vote isn't going to sway the election, so there is no reason not to cast it for your very favorite candidate.
"Sorry that is kind of a stupid analogy but I think you get the point. In 2004 I would've voted green because kerry was like a bowl of piss soup."
I understand what you are saying, but I am still unconvinced voting for a major party lesser of the two evil's candidate will sway the election. If I thought my one vote would sway the election to a lesser of the two evil's candidate, I might, but how often is this the case? Seriously almost never. Certainly not often enough to warrant your average guy to vote for the lesser of two evils rather than whomever his favorite candidate is.