/newpol/ - Guest Worker Programs

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 5:36

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_06_05/article.html

They suck.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 5:48

>>1
Not if employers must pay them minimum wage and trade is restricted with Mexico due to the fact their government is a tyranny.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 5:50

>>2
In that case, I'd rather they were allowed to live here, so they'd spend their money in the USA rather than in Mexico.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 5:54

>>2 The reason they have guest worker programs is so that they can get away with paying them less money, yet still not piss off all the people who don't like huge numbers of immigrants in this country. Granting them minimum wages like the rest of the people in the country would kinda defeat the purpose of their program, wouldn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 6:05

>>4
It's either that or we get rid of welfare and put lazy americans to work.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 6:54

>>5
I'm all for removing welfare. No fucking guest worker programs though.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-03 12:50

>>6
Well I think it really depends on the government of the countr ythey are from. There is nothing wrong with people crossing the Canadian and US border as they want, there is no point in turning the border into an economic choke point. However since Mexico is a tyranny we should place restrictions to ensure that the Mexican government does not use guest worker programs maliciously. For instance not allowing guest workers to gain citizenship after working here for a period of time.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-05 13:15

>>7
We shouldn't have guest worker programs period. No guest worker programs. Either open the border and let them in, or close it, and no guest worker programs.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-05 13:31

>>8
Why?

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-05 21:23

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Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 12:37

>>9
Because I don't give a fuck about having more mexican people in the USA. I *do* give a fuck about a loss of jobs and capital from the country. Guest worker programs only contribute to this. I'd much rather have mexicans move here, and spend their money here, than move here, earn money, and then take it back to their countries to spend. At least if they spend it here, the money stays here, unlike with the guest worker program.

I say either just let them in regularly (open border), or close the border and no god damn guest worker programs. I don't care which one, but I won't support guest worker programs.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 13:16

>>11
I know that, but I want to know what specific points about Mexico make it different from say Canada, who's companies compete with American companies on very large scale and who provide a large number of employees and employment for america. Chances are Canada has the upper hand in cross border trade with the US and this is absolutely fine since there is nothing wrong with a free-market economy.

Perhaps Mexico's minimum wage laws interfere with the free-market? Be specific.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 13:55

>>12
Part of the reason Mexico's economy is in such shitty condition is largely due to the fact that they have so many socialistic anti-business laws like the one you just pointed out.

Name: Anonymous 2006-09-06 17:57

>>13
Mexico has a lower minimum wage than the US.

I just want you to define a presentable argument which gives specific reason why free trade/immigration with Mexico would be detrimental and unethical.

Name: です 2006-09-06 18:02

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Guest Worker Programs

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