Is there still hope?

I got to know her when I entered the 11 grade and we had religion classes together(september 2004). So, I instantly noticed that there was something about her, well, something on which I couldn't could place my finger, that just drew my attention. Later I noticed what it was: her personality. But more of that later.
So anyway, seeing as I am a big coward about feelings and can hardly hint at them, let alone speak 'em out, I tried to become kind of friends with her. She got together with a guy from the same religion class whom she knew for quite some while(november 2004). So, I buried my feelings deep inside and tried not to interfere, after all, she was happy with him, so who am I to break a good relationship down? He was a really boring guy actually, witty sometimes, but overall a borefest. Hell, I'm no Dave Chappelle, but this guy, come on.....
So, time flies by and they break up(february 2006 I think). I see this and I get all tingly. So, I try to hang out with her more and more but then I notice something: oh snippity snippity snap, I'm in her friend zone! Nooooooo! Realizing that I had no chance to hint at my feelings while she still saw me as just a good friend, I made maybe a stupid mistake, maybe my only choice, depends on your view - I decided to kiss her sometime soon. I simply decided to place thise delicate business on one tiny possibility, I went all in with absolutely the shittiest cards in my hands. And Halleluja, there was a dance night just around the corner, so I invited her to come with me and a couple of friends. Ok, so the evening passes by and I finally get the chance to dance with her alone. I bite my whole fear down, say my last amen and do this dance move which all the tango dancers love - legs far apart and pulling the girl behind, almost laying her on the floor while still holding her. So I try to kiss her, and of course, the expected response happens - she denies me the kiss. Whoop-ti-woo Dukey-boy, you failed.

We leave the club and on the next morning I wake up and realize how this tiny event changed things: she saw me as a friend, I tried to kiss her -> I shocked her and she doesn't know what I was doing. For bonus points, the next day we would have religion classes together and without resolving the matter, shit would be super awkward, so I decided to lay out my feelings on monday.
Ok, it was raining, perfect weather for a 99% guaranteed denial, but I still go through with it: I explain her how long I liked, nay, loved her, how much, how deep, how difficult it was when she was with the other guy and how I really want to be with her. Of course, that was an even bigger shock for her than my attempted kiss, because she probably thought that I was drunk or something. I was a friend all the time and now BAM, in 2 days she gets to understand that I loved her. Of course she doesn't have any feelings towards me at this moment because she simply didn't even have the chance to consider me as a boyfriend. So me, holding back the tears(believe me, I never had such a chaos in the heart and in my mind, so it was hard), is telling her that we'll try to be friends.

Intermission - Her personality:
Now here is where her personality shines through. She is a very intelligent girl. She's kind of innocent and naive at some points, which makes her freaking adorable and sweet. And I don't mean innocent and naive in the sense of "Oh, I think the storch brings the babies". Furthermore, she's kind of short, and I dunno why but I find short girls in generally to be even more adorable and sweet. So ok, her personality. She didn't just brush me off like some bitch would, she lovingly explained to me that she doesn't have feelings for me but she hopes that we can be friends, and if it would be too hard to continue being friends with her she would understand if I wouldn't want to ever see her again. Now that is a fucking strong character trait, if I might tell you.

I continue with my story.
So, monday and tuesday were hell for me. Begin extroverted, almost the whole 12 class was wondering why the hell I was so blue, had to constantly fight back the tears, actually. Then I resolved the matter with myself on Wednesday. Dunno how, I just kind of made an inner monologue and came to a conclusion. And thus the flower idea was born.

fast forward to today: after she noticed the flowers, she phoned me and we had a small conversation which started something like this "Hi [ne]!" "Oh hi [her]! How are feeling?"(of course I knew she noticed the flowers) then she laughs and tells that I think I should know how she feels. Anyway, I had the biggest adrenaline and endemorphine rush since I can think as I heard that her voice was, even just slightly, trembling. She said that I must be suffering and that we could cut the contact if I wanted to, to which I said "No, it would be even bigger hell if I wouldn't see you anymore. I feel already happy when I know you feel happy because of me". Well, after some chit chat which brought me nowhere, I now have a starving heart: I starve for her.

So, flame me, call me an idiot, a dreamer, a wisher, a fool or whatever, I simply don't want to back off - this girl simply fascinates me too much for me to just dismiss it as a mere teen love. So, if anybody can draw some sense from all this madman's talk, feel free, nay, feel ENCOURAGED to give me advice, because hell yeah, I need some

tl;dr: I fell in love, she loved another, I waited, she broke up, I tried to kiss her, she denied, I told her my feelings, she showed a great personality in the way she denied my feelings, i was angsty, i came over it, i planted flowers, she was moved, i feel motivated to move on, need some tips

Closing note: This thread will be obvious flamebait and I don't expect there to be none, just please, at least give 1 relevant answer per 10 trolls.

Oh and if someone cares or wants to see the flowers I planted: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9914/arrr0057rd.jpg
The thing in the middle is the Russian letter "Ж", which is the first letter of her name

Christ, this must be the longest post on world4ch ever. Someone tell me if it's worth reading

>>3
I guess you're right. Here's the tl;dr version:
Fell in love with a girl, she got boyfriend, waited one year, she broke up, i was to afraid to tell feelings and was already in the friend zone, tried to kiss her, she denied the kiss because she was shocked(good friend wanted to kiss?), told her my feelings, she's even more shocked, denied my because she didn't have feelings for me, said we'll be friends, i planted flowers in the shape of a heart in front of her balcony, she got flattered very much

Now I dunno where I stand

Fucking christ. Her personality is great because she said she wants to be friends? You're a fucking jackass. She's like any other cunt who doesn't find you hot because you're ugly. Get a lot of money, get smarter, or at least get a personality. I suggest majoring in English lit.

She's a whore and not worth it. If you care for her she won't date you, but she'll go lay the first jerk motherfucker she sees because he's so cool and confident.

You need less of her, more of your right hand.

Dude I feel your pain. Love is a battlefield, eh? Keep going for it, I think you're on the right track.

P.S. I think it's pretty cool that you actually went for it and tried to kiss her. You may not have been a super suave james-bond type, but you did your thing, and that deserves major props. Keep on rockin'

-Bebop( you can find me under this name on Echan's irc)

tl;dr emo post

>>4

Read the tl;dr version, I say you're all signs point to "you're a fag, no one cares"
>>7
You are also a fag, weaboo cunt, echans pretty gay as well, although I did promise him a drink..I think. Still a total fag like you though. (Seriously, He uses the backdoor)
>>5
The voice of reason, englsh lit is a no-no though - art is better.

>>1

Beat her senseless, then rape her.

>>1
Chloroform, Chloroform
Reveals delicious naked body forms

THAT IS A LOT OF WORDS. Especially considering where you are posting. 4chan has the attention span of a coked-up pedo in a daycare center.
Actual advice - uhhh, keep trying, if you want something go for it. Unless it's loli, since I don't remember seeing any numbers up there. And don't listen to the disaffected emo kids who got dumped for whining too much. Not being a mysogynistic prick will get you somewhere in life. Somewhere good.

>>1
You fail for using cyrillic !
Actually, the whole of Russia fails for that, not just you

This is so cute... I hope you'll get her in the end. :/ Try to be charming, try to be as attractive as you can, don't give up, but don't press her either.

>>12
No, it won't. Having some skills and/or luck will get you somewhere in life, misogyny is irrelevant.

Man I can understand your pain. I myself was turned down by girls a lot.
At your case: you shouldn't give up! You just need to catch the right moment. Be here when she has a bad time, cheer her up, show her that you care about her and maybe you'll reach your goal.

>>12
>>14
>>15
That's the exact reason why I did post this thing: if people on /b/ could be assed to read through it and actually give a couple of decent responses, then hell, I'm more than happy to have 10 trolls per every normal message. Messages yours kind of prove my rule, well, mabye 5 trolls per 1 normal post.

I'm still in need of some good advices on how I can gently, but still steadily push her in the LOVE ME LOVE ME direction

youve known her for quite a while so im assuming she knows you well. with that in mind, theres no way to push her into falling in love with you. well, maybe if you get her addicted to coke or heroin and you become a dealer, she'll definitely fall in love with you. even trade blow for blow. anyway, the important thing is that she knows how you feel about her. if you stop pushing and act yourself and become involved and confident with whatever it is youre trying to make of yourself, she'll notice you as a different person, hopefully a person she likes knowing that in the back of her mind you like her. with newly found self-esteem you might attract other girls and forget that crack whore.

Beware! Don't force her like "love me! love me!" it can ruin everything.
Love isn't something that you can buy. You cannot force someone to love you.
What you need to do is to show her that she can count on you, that you will be there when she needs you. Girls just want to feel secure. They mostly search for a guy who can protect them. Give her this protection, be always on her side and you're on a right path. But be careful not to overrun her.

>>5
eng lit is for faggots

>>7
Faggot

>>9

>>20
Fuck, that failed hard.

>>5
eng lit is for faggots

>>7
Faggot

>>9
Yeah art is great if he wants to flip burgers for the rest of his life

>>12
He has been going for it. What are you dense? I'm the goddamn BATMAN

>>16
>>19
Hahaha, oh wow.

To be honest, your situation looks pretty dark but you might be able to come through. What you need to do is let her know that you've gotten over her, even if you haven't. Start seeing other girls and tell her about it. Stop being her bitch and stop acting like a puppy looking for affection around her. bla bla bla, bla bla bla bla, bla bla, blaaaaaaa bla bla blaaaaa bla blaaa. Blaaa bla bla blaa bla bla. BLA BLA BLAAA BLA BLAAAA BLAAAAAA BAAAAAAALELA LBLAAAA BLAELB DLDB

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>>1
tl;dr

>>19
Beware! Don't force her like "love me! love me!" it can ruin everything.
You're telling me what I've said in anime doesn't work?

>>23
  Anonymous at 8 May 2006: 17:29
>>19
Beware! Don't force her like "love me! love me!" it can ruin everything.
You're telling me what I've said in anime doesn't work?

youre telling me rei ayanami will never love me!? =(

>>1 so you're still under 15?, that explaiis it...

you'll see, theres no soo much room in this days for the victorian "im tough but yo make me be a wussy" kind of things, shure, the flowers ARE a good idea, but you are about one full year back whith them...

you shoud  just let her be for a while, DON'T FORCE HER; YOU /B/TARD, her heart is in a turmoil, world fallin apart kind of girly things; do something new for you, preferably a "contact" sport until you build some courage.

you gotta be ASSERTIVE,not just an ASS, COCKY, not just a DICK...

she already Knows you dig her?, so what, they usualy do and still pretend you're her "wussy-friend-whit-no-balls-to-ask-me-out"; you've gotta shake that rep off if you're serious about this girl

also , dont be afraid to date oter girls, just don be a dick when doing so licke showin them of and stuff; if you find none who you like the better you can try later 'cause she'll never forgot you said you liked her and you're now so self confident and mature and shit... it will be like in those  fantastic-romance chikflicks and your'll have succeded

hope this works out, but since lounge is like textual /B/ i must digress and say...

DESU=USED, so gettafok off ma internets you 12 yo bosnian

She really is no bitch, that much I can tell you. *sigh* SHITSUXFAG, I suppose

>>26
You're a fag. Step 1

>>21
Art Majors get more pussy than god. Please read. Second, you can't outsource us. Third, shut the fuck up CS major, enjoy your indian brothers taking your jobs.

Step two: You suck >>26

Yeah, you suck too, >>27 but I'm still gay for you

uhm. from a girl's perspective you seem to be pretty decent. but if by now, she hasn't developed any feelings for you, i would move on and try not to seem creepy/despo in the way that she would freak/pity you.

credits you for making a move.

Date other girls. If that doesn't make her reconsider her feelings towards you, nothing else will. Right now you're the one chasing her, you have to reverse the situation and make her chase you.

>>31
Yeah I know you mean it well, but you don't seem to understand. She's no highschool dramalama, if I start to date other girls she'll see that I got over my alleged love pretty quick and will surely turn away forever. She's got this annoying pride thing, not too much, but still

>>27
If you are going to waste your time with a education it should at least be something that will make you money. A better idea would be to pretend to be a art major instead, no one will be able to tell and you won't have to waste some of your best years doing shit. Burger flipping does not need to be outsourced because you already have a steady stream of hardworking Mexicans crossing your boarders. pls2stopbeingretarded

>>32
What's this pride thing? I don't remember anything like that in the first post.

Anyway, I don't think there is much hope in changing the way she sees you, best (low) chance would be the "date other girls" in my opinion. She even offered to sever the links  after your flower thing. You can try one or two more stunts like that, but chances are you'll fall from the "friend" zone to the "stalker" zone.

You are becoming or are an intelectual whore.. please take your time reading thise site it will probably change you and if not then your just a miserable human being GL..
http://www.intellectualwhores.com/
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I can't figure out the whole "How to make them fall in love with you" thing either, I just know that the only time girls have said they love me is when I just was real nice towards them but NEVER made a move.

It seems that in my (pitiful) experience that women can't have feelings for a guy who declares theirs first. I dunno though, I might be totally wrong. I personally love telling girls how I feel about them, but all that gives me is good friends. They never go further. Maybe it takes the fun and "mystery" out of it?  The reason I say that is because women seem to think feelings are a mystery, completely non logical and henceforth that's why they're not men. They LIKE being irrational and illiogical. I mean, isn't that what they hear from all their friends who've been dumped 12 times/in love 12 times? "When u have strong feelings for a boy, zomg it must b tru love!!11"

>>34
The pride thing is this: she's not a slut, but also not a holier-than-thou girl. You know, that kind of girl who is nice BUT also knows her worth. Not too preoccupied with what people think of her but also not completly disillusioned. In short: the fucking golden middle of everything!
>>36
Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said anything...oh well, a big mistake it was I guess, but otherwise she'd notice that I even have a slight HINT of feelings

>>37
There's gotta be at least one guy on 4chan who's gotten further than "I have feelings for you... Oh, you don't feel the same way? Darn." That can't be end of it all.

>>38
Sorry.

After six or seven of these things I just unloaded love.sys .

>>39
I bet now you keep getting error messages. "Brain can not find the file 'Satisfaction.exe' Do you want to abort life?"

  My advice to you. Now that you have expressed your feelings to her, distance yourself from her. Remain slightly cold and distant, don't be a jerk or an asshole but you don't want to look desperate. For example if she asks if you want to come hang out with her and some friends, say you have to study. If she wants you to help her move stuff say your busy. Keep talking to her but keep yourself at arms length.

  Then see if she responds, if not, well you got nothing. Time to move on.

>>39
1.-go comand line
2.-type:
format volume [/fs:ntfs] [/v:life] [/q] [/a:0] [/c] [/x]
3.-reebot

Ok, you just got two choices here, like the others said.

Either you like just being her friend and follow her around to be close to her and watch her having other boyfriends. Maybe thats enough for ya...

Or you start dating other girls as well and make yourself interesting for her. Could be that she turns away, but chance is equally big that if you stay friends and she sees other girls enjoying being your girl she'll reconsider or see you from another angle.

The whole, "I'll stick around and eventually she will love me"-thing wont happen. She isnt interested in you as you are right now, following around like a trained dog she allready knows all of wont change that. Its your choice...

Ok, we got motherfucking update. I am still confused about girl #1 and one of her friends is now hitting on me. We made out a bit today at the park, but I am goddamn not sure what the fuck I am doing and even if I should proceed. Fuck, 4chan, what do I do?

Love is undefined.
Let lonliness define love.

I've heard this story like 350 times on lounge. Boy meets girl, girl thinks boy is just a friend. Boy whines like a little bitch on the internet.

This is how it is supposed to happen.

Boy befriends girl
then
boy waits
if
girl gives out signals
then
boy ends wait and invites girl on date

>>44
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>>46
Write C much?

>>48
WHAT FAGGOTRY IS THIS?!

>>50
Welcome to 4chan.

so many words long post long thread, the poor molecules in my brain can't take it anymore!!!

i demand a thread summary for this faggotory.

>>1

I feel for ya, man. Shit like that always happens - somehow related, I broke up with my second girlfriend, and even though I have a new one, I still think about her..it's in the back of my head, and whenever I see her or hear her talk, I just keep thinking to myself...damn...

And I don't even love the girlfriend I have now, as much as I did her..

Now you have me sad :(

Just go for it. Worst that could happen is that you commit suicide.

>>54
That would be kind of a one way street. Damn :(
>>53
Sorry to hear that bro, love is needlessly complicated, eh?
That's also the reason why I'm kinda struggling with me if I should go for the second girl. I don't even know if there are any feelings for her or if just the feelings from the first girl are being clumsyly painted over to this one.

>>38
I never read a success story on here, which leads me to believe that I should get the fuck out of this place lest I turn into one of said failures.

Ehem.

1. Send more "i am a jerk" signals
2. Pretend you dont care out her
3. ???
4. SEX

or alternatively

1. Find a new girl and dont make the same mistakes that you did this time.

---
For serious, you lost all hope when you said "that would put me in an even bigger hell" and whats the big idea with going from friend to -kissing- her?

*teacher teacher i has an idea*

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO ASK HER OUT ON A DATE DUMBFUCK

>>36

*has idea*

Stop trying to MAKE girls fall in LOVE with you.
You can manipulate a girl into doing just about anything if you dont care about them. A girl will NEVER go for a guy because he "cares about" her. No, women are ficle and retarded, they want to proove their SKILL *wink* by turning a Jerk into a Middle-ground guy.

Its about the jerk signals. Toss as many lame pickup lines at her as possible, never even hinting to be serious. Hit on other women in front of her. If you are a man with a penis, then act like it.

There is not just "the friend zone" - there is also the "guys who i know (acquantience, NOT FRIEND) who i would totally fuck / go out with"

Try to get into the latter group.

>>44 you are in a good spot.

Now that we are dealing with girl #2,

DONT MAKE THE SAME FUCKING MISTAKES.

Treat girl 2 with respect, keep things light (NO "I LOVE YOU" EVER) and dont have a bad breakup.

In social situations with girl #1 and girl #2 present, act aloof, and dont give a shit about either of them. When you are with women you ALWAYS have somthing better to be doing, got that? No PDA for girl #2 because you are really just using/manipulating her to get girl #1. keep your eye on the prize.

And ask girl #2 out on a date. AT least of girl #1 hates you you can have #2 as a consolation prize.

>>59
Ok, so we all go out on Thursday to do some grilling with friends.  Yep, #1 and #2 are both there. What's gonna get complicated, I made out with #2 a bit on Saturday. Being a LOL-4channer, I was not very great at kissing and when I went with my hand to her pussy, she had stockings on and said "sorry, the stocking are pretty tight". I dunno why I did it, but not that she'll get a wrong idea...I mean, hell, I really don't know if I even want her. Maybe my feelings for #1 are just getting transferred to #2 or something like that....

Fuck, how should I behave at the grill-event? Think of me as Love-fiaso Otako or something like that, without some hints I think I'll burn horribly

Follow your dreams Love-fiasco taco!

>>61

Only on 4chan.

>>Love-fiasco taco-san,

At the grill event...

Whoops, I just got a call from my 21 year old supermodel AZN girlfriend, serious buissiness lounge, she needs my manlove.

I'll get back to you >>Love-fiasco taco-san.

Okay love-fiasco-taco-san I'm back.
The best thing to do at the grill event is to treat girl #2 nicely and not even give girl #1 the time of day. A friendly "Hi" and then you are done with girl #1. Then pay attention to girl #2, no pda, but flirt/hit on her etc. This will make girl #1 think "---[Error, women dont think in english]---" but anyway, she wants to get inside your pants.

>>64

Wow, you must not be too concerned about those STDs.  Like, you know, because every girl is willing to make out with the guy their friend rejected twice.

Seriously though, don't do anything with girl #2 because that will make girl #1 think you are a) over girl #1 and trying to make up for it by getting with any random slut or b) make the problem even worse because you're awkwardly attempting to make her jealous or something.  In either case, you'll just drive girl #1, the girl you obviously really want, away.  Just hang out with girl #1 and slowly try to make up for all the retarded shit you've done, not compile even more mistakes onto it.

>>64

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

A scrub is a guy that thinks he's fly
And is also known as a buster
Always talkin' about what he wants
And just sits on his broke ass
A scrub is a guy that cant get no love from me
Hanging out the passenger side
Of his best-friend's ride
Trying to holler at me.

I am a despisable human being.

Ok, so what happened yesterday? At midnight I get a call from a friend of #1.
"Hey Love-fiasco_guy!"
"Hey [friend]! Where the hell are you?"
"In your neibourhood, near the grocery store"
"What the hell are you doing at midnight near my grocery store? Where is #1, I thought she was with you?"
"Yeah, she's here too....she's buying shoes"
"Oh ok, I'm on my way"
The thing is, there are no shoe stores in a 10 mile radius...#1 was sleepwalking. Sometimes when she had much events during the day, she'll fall asleep but then wake up and do her sleepwalking routine. Mainly she dreams of the events that have happened during the day. Well yesterday she was helping her mother out in the shoe store and it somehow stuck with her, dunno why.
Anyway, me and [friend] spend the next hour trying to get her to her home because she constantly sees puddles, walls, bus stops and lakes which are in our way and we have to go around, even though the way is perfectly fine. She feins a couple of times on the way(mainly because we once got tired of going around and pushed through the "wall" she was seeing...which was just the sidewalk) and at around 1:30am arive at her flat.
And now the despisable human being bit. Whenever she feins(or sleepwalks, for that matter), she doesn't have any memore of what had happened when she wakes up. So I was sitting at her couch and she feined and was lieing on me. Well ok, I asked [friend] to fetch some food and drinks from the fridge. As he lefted, I grabbed me some boobage. I really dunno why I did that...
Well, maybe next time she sleepwalks and I'm alone with her, I'll ask her what her feelings are towards me. Then the truth will be revealed!

Ok please kill me now for such thoughts

RAPE HER NEXT TIME. SHE WON'T REMEMBERING A THING SO IT'S THE PERFECT CRIME, LOVE FIASCO TACO.

But rape is bad, mkay ;_;

Only if you are the one being raped

>>70
Stop pretending you're too good for rape. You already molested her, why not take the next step?

Way to go Love-Fiasco Taco!!!
You got boob. What an inspiration to all of us 4channers.

Molesting her is somthing a potential boyfriend would do. Not somthing an emotional-support-only friend would do. Keep this up Love Taco! We beleive in you! You can rape her if you just beleive in yourself!

Wow, seriously, wtf is this shit?

Am I somehow semi-important that I now have my very own copycats? I feel kinda....flattered?

Mini update: I think #2 has seriously fallen in love with me. It'll be shit when I'll have to burst her bubble :(

Love-fiasco Taco is not just one man, nor is he 190. He is the culmination of everything that "is" 4chan ~ that "is" the modern internet. We know that happiness from living vicariously, but we are still tempted by an outside world that we are just not meant to thrive in.

I for one, am pleased with the chance to live vicariously through love-sick taco.

Dont bother to burst #2's bubble. Keep acting like a suitor and not a friend to #1 and keep #2 as a low-maintainence "backup" girl.

DO YOUR BEST LOVE TACO

>>75
I agree!

Yeah it's best not to make any drastic actions, as long as you play it cool, you're not cheating on anyone and no one will get hurt (emotionally and physically) am I right?

>>76
Well, if it would be this easy, I'd also be kinda happy. Thing is, #2 starts to seriously cling on to me. Yesterday I met up with her to sort things out. We sat down on a park bench and she started to put her face dangerously near mine. So I stood up and started to say that nooooo, I'm actually kinda confused right now and I need the summer vacation to get a clear head. Luckily she took the hint because honestly, I myself wouldn't have understood the riddles in which I was talking to her.
Then, at around midnight, I wanted to head home, but she invited me for tea. I figured "Hey, I have a mind on my own, if I don't want any fishy business I just go along with it". So we listened to some music at her place and she was constantly moving dangerously near me, again. I set an alarm clock to remind me when my train goes so I won't miss it, and she started carassing my face and hands. Luckily, the hint from earlier remained and she didn't try to kiss me. I figured "Hey, don't be rude Love-fiasco_guy, if it eases her, just let her do some small things". Well, when the alarm clock rang the mood visible darkened.
Anyway, we went for the station. On the way, she said that I should stay and not go away. I saw that shit was going to hit the fan pretty fast if I don't get out of there quick. And then shit really did hit the fan. "I don't want you to go away, what does it matter if you go home now or in 2 hours, just stay with me for a while, please" and she started to fight her tears. Well destiny, FUCK YOU, thanks for my bleak situation :(

Well I started to comfort her a bit, at least enough so that I could get to the station and not have any more outburst by her on the way. I imagine that she felt shitty.....man, I hate hurting people.

And now, at 1pm, #1 sends me an sms. "Hey, we gotta meet up and talk a bit. Meet me at 3pm at [stationname]". Well fuck, I really dunno what this talk is going to be about.....

My life is a big fucking goddamn catch-22

Aw damn... Well looks like it didn't work out to plan :/
Well what you need now is some times for yourself, some time when you can think for yourself and talk to each girl individually. Don't try and plan everything, because it won't work out that way. You just need some more time.

If not, who do you think loves you more? Take a one sided approach to this and say that this other girl loves me, so that's why I'm feeling so confused at the moment. Perhaps by doing this you can distant yourself from one of them for the time being. Don't even suggest to this girl that you love the other one, just think of it like a stalker on it.

Well hope it helps.

Ok guys, this is the end of this thread. I DID touch #1's boob when she was sleepwaling, and that was the topic of today's discussion. She said that it is all over, our friendship and everything. Fuck, just tell me, why was I such an idiot? Why did I touch her boob? Was it really that necessary? What exactly did I gain in those 10 seconds?! FUCKING NOTHING! Now I lost a serious friendship and I'm totally down on the floor, fucking trying to forget. As already said, I'm the most vile thing on earth, I'm not a human being, I'm a fucking freak. I molested, or even raped, no matter the  context, a defenseless girl. I did it because of my own egoismus. And now she confroted me with it and I didn't know what to say. Now I broke a perfect friendship because of some stupid shit my dick or whatever was thinking.... I seriously loathe myself. Yeah,, whatever, I am emo, I won't forget this fucking mistake.

I broke a goddamn fucking perfect friendship because of my  idiotic instincts. I will never ever make such a mistake again, particularly because I want to stab my left hand with a knife to always see a scar and remember to not make idiotic,  completly egoistic and stupid  mistakes again. I am glad that some guys did contribute to this thread, but on the 4th of July I am flying away to Spain and then flying away to Moldova to forget all this shit I started. I do hope #1 will sometime forgive me, but until  then,, I'm  trying to become more stable and  reliable, I do hate myself but I'll work on it. Maybe this is the last post by me, but who knows? 4chan is truly a vile pit of monsters and  good guys. I do appreciate your advice, seriously...

Love-fiasco_guy is out!

Good luck in the future man. Remember some of us are worse, and so a smart man is one who learns from his mistakes and does not repeat them. But everyone makes them.

>>79
Good luck in Spain, that's a very nice country. Good choice.

You might as well contact her after your trip and forward her this >>79 post, explaining how you repent and how you hate yourself. I don't know if she'd forget you, but she'd at least feel better, I suppose. Good luck.

CRAWWLING UNDER MY SKIIIIN......

Seriously, don't hurt your left hand for that. Just let some time pass (1-2 months) and when you're back from Spain tell her you're so sorry and feel like shit, and you will understand if she doesn't want to see you again, but you still wanted her to know you feel very ashamed and sorry.

Even so, keep in mind this is an attempt to save a friendship. No chance in hell you're fucking this girl because you're in her friend zone, and girls are stupid, this one included I'm afraid.

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>>40
He's going to execute his cut-wrists and after hospital he'll be  running his masturbation.exe in /corner/

THIS IS, THE END OF ALL HOPE.

>>83
Here's a summary, from anonymous to anonymous:

Episode 1: He liked a girl, but he was in her friend zone, so he has no chance in hell of fucking her. She got rid of her boyfriend, the guy told her he loves her, the girl was a whore like all girls and rejected and said all the "we can be friends" girl shit. Fucking girls.

Episode 2: She sleepwalks. One day the guy handles her boob because it made dick hard. She finds out and tells him everything, including friendship.

Episode 3: Guy cuts his wrists and flies to Spain to forget.

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>>86
I have not cut my wrists. And I have no intention to.

>>88
Oh, yeah, well, I was in a hurry. I still think you shouldn't do it. To remember how you've felt is enough.

And BTW, if you are in her friend zone, she may not be worth it. It's just another girl; think about it. There are millions of girls making good guys suffer like that.

>>88
wow, all this over some dumb girl? act less creepy next time and stop being so damn emo about it

>>87

oh shi

>>86
Its my understanding that episode 2 was FAKE.
THIS IS LOVE FIASCO TACO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU THINK HE HAS THE GUTS TO MOLEST A FEMALE?
LIES. SAD LIES.

CAPS FOR SERIOUS.

got to know her when I entered the 11 grade and we had religion classes together(september 2004). So, I instantly noticed that there was something about her, well, something on which I couldn't could place my finger, that just drew my attention. Later I noticed what it was: her personality. But more of that later.
So anyway, seeing as I am a big coward about feelings and can hardly hint at them, let alone speak 'em out, I tried to become kind of friends with her. She got together with a guy from the same religion class whom she knew for quite some while(november 2004). So, I buried my feelings deep inside and tried not to interfere, after all, she was happy with him, so who am I to break a good relationship down? He was a really boring guy actually, witty sometimes, but overall a borefest. Hell, I'm no Dave Chappelle, but I got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said "You're moving with your auntie and your uncle in Bel Air"

>>15
This is true.
Most girls will overlook mysogyny if you have other good qualities.

Hence the "Why do girls always go for the jerks?" paradox.
It's all about sex.
Fucking whores.

oh well

>>95
Were you OP?

Way to bump a literally five year old thread, jerkface.

>>97
Four years, genius.

i had a similar story, i got over it, u will too.

100 GET@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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