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Is there still hope?

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-07 18:38

I got to know her when I entered the 11 grade and we had religion classes together(september 2004). So, I instantly noticed that there was something about her, well, something on which I couldn't could place my finger, that just drew my attention. Later I noticed what it was: her personality. But more of that later.
So anyway, seeing as I am a big coward about feelings and can hardly hint at them, let alone speak 'em out, I tried to become kind of friends with her. She got together with a guy from the same religion class whom she knew for quite some while(november 2004). So, I buried my feelings deep inside and tried not to interfere, after all, she was happy with him, so who am I to break a good relationship down? He was a really boring guy actually, witty sometimes, but overall a borefest. Hell, I'm no Dave Chappelle, but this guy, come on.....
So, time flies by and they break up(february 2006 I think). I see this and I get all tingly. So, I try to hang out with her more and more but then I notice something: oh snippity snippity snap, I'm in her friend zone! Nooooooo! Realizing that I had no chance to hint at my feelings while she still saw me as just a good friend, I made maybe a stupid mistake, maybe my only choice, depends on your view - I decided to kiss her sometime soon. I simply decided to place thise delicate business on one tiny possibility, I went all in with absolutely the shittiest cards in my hands. And Halleluja, there was a dance night just around the corner, so I invited her to come with me and a couple of friends. Ok, so the evening passes by and I finally get the chance to dance with her alone. I bite my whole fear down, say my last amen and do this dance move which all the tango dancers love - legs far apart and pulling the girl behind, almost laying her on the floor while still holding her. So I try to kiss her, and of course, the expected response happens - she denies me the kiss. Whoop-ti-woo Dukey-boy, you failed.

We leave the club and on the next morning I wake up and realize how this tiny event changed things: she saw me as a friend, I tried to kiss her -> I shocked her and she doesn't know what I was doing. For bonus points, the next day we would have religion classes together and without resolving the matter, shit would be super awkward, so I decided to lay out my feelings on monday.
Ok, it was raining, perfect weather for a 99% guaranteed denial, but I still go through with it: I explain her how long I liked, nay, loved her, how much, how deep, how difficult it was when she was with the other guy and how I really want to be with her. Of course, that was an even bigger shock for her than my attempted kiss, because she probably thought that I was drunk or something. I was a friend all the time and now BAM, in 2 days she gets to understand that I loved her. Of course she doesn't have any feelings towards me at this moment because she simply didn't even have the chance to consider me as a boyfriend. So me, holding back the tears(believe me, I never had such a chaos in the heart and in my mind, so it was hard), is telling her that we'll try to be friends.

Intermission - Her personality:
Now here is where her personality shines through. She is a very intelligent girl. She's kind of innocent and naive at some points, which makes her freaking adorable and sweet. And I don't mean innocent and naive in the sense of "Oh, I think the storch brings the babies". Furthermore, she's kind of short, and I dunno why but I find short girls in generally to be even more adorable and sweet. So ok, her personality. She didn't just brush me off like some bitch would, she lovingly explained to me that she doesn't have feelings for me but she hopes that we can be friends, and if it would be too hard to continue being friends with her she would understand if I wouldn't want to ever see her again. Now that is a fucking strong character trait, if I might tell you.

I continue with my story.
So, monday and tuesday were hell for me. Begin extroverted, almost the whole 12 class was wondering why the hell I was so blue, had to constantly fight back the tears, actually. Then I resolved the matter with myself on Wednesday. Dunno how, I just kind of made an inner monologue and came to a conclusion. And thus the flower idea was born.

fast forward to today: after she noticed the flowers, she phoned me and we had a small conversation which started something like this "Hi [ne]!" "Oh hi [her]! How are feeling?"(of course I knew she noticed the flowers) then she laughs and tells that I think I should know how she feels. Anyway, I had the biggest adrenaline and endemorphine rush since I can think as I heard that her voice was, even just slightly, trembling. She said that I must be suffering and that we could cut the contact if I wanted to, to which I said "No, it would be even bigger hell if I wouldn't see you anymore. I feel already happy when I know you feel happy because of me". Well, after some chit chat which brought me nowhere, I now have a starving heart: I starve for her.

So, flame me, call me an idiot, a dreamer, a wisher, a fool or whatever, I simply don't want to back off - this girl simply fascinates me too much for me to just dismiss it as a mere teen love. So, if anybody can draw some sense from all this madman's talk, feel free, nay, feel ENCOURAGED to give me advice, because hell yeah, I need some

tl;dr: I fell in love, she loved another, I waited, she broke up, I tried to kiss her, she denied, I told her my feelings, she showed a great personality in the way she denied my feelings, i was angsty, i came over it, i planted flowers, she was moved, i feel motivated to move on, need some tips

Closing note: This thread will be obvious flamebait and I don't expect there to be none, just please, at least give 1 relevant answer per 10 trolls.

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-07 18:48

Oh and if someone cares or wants to see the flowers I planted: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9914/arrr0057rd.jpg
The thing in the middle is the Russian letter "Ж", which is the first letter of her name

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 19:19 (sage)

Christ, this must be the longest post on world4ch ever. Someone tell me if it's worth reading

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-07 19:29

>>3
I guess you're right. Here's the tl;dr version:
Fell in love with a girl, she got boyfriend, waited one year, she broke up, i was to afraid to tell feelings and was already in the friend zone, tried to kiss her, she denied the kiss because she was shocked(good friend wanted to kiss?), told her my feelings, she's even more shocked, denied my because she didn't have feelings for me, said we'll be friends, i planted flowers in the shape of a heart in front of her balcony, she got flattered very much

Now I dunno where I stand

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 20:19

Fucking christ. Her personality is great because she said she wants to be friends? You're a fucking jackass. She's like any other cunt who doesn't find you hot because you're ugly. Get a lot of money, get smarter, or at least get a personality. I suggest majoring in English lit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 20:53

She's a whore and not worth it. If you care for her she won't date you, but she'll go lay the first jerk motherfucker she sees because he's so cool and confident.

You need less of her, more of your right hand.

Name: Bebop 2006-05-07 22:19

Dude I feel your pain. Love is a battlefield, eh? Keep going for it, I think you're on the right track.

P.S. I think it's pretty cool that you actually went for it and tried to kiss her. You may not have been a super suave james-bond type, but you did your thing, and that deserves major props. Keep on rockin'

-Bebop( you can find me under this name on Echan's irc)

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 22:20

tl;dr emo post

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 22:22

>>4

Read the tl;dr version, I say you're all signs point to "you're a fag, no one cares"
>>7
You are also a fag, weaboo cunt, echans pretty gay as well, although I did promise him a drink..I think. Still a total fag like you though. (Seriously, He uses the backdoor)
>>5
The voice of reason, englsh lit is a no-no though - art is better.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 9:25

>>1

Beat her senseless, then rape her.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 9:32

>>1
Chloroform, Chloroform
Reveals delicious naked body forms

Name: J3ph42 2006-05-08 10:46

THAT IS A LOT OF WORDS. Especially considering where you are posting. 4chan has the attention span of a coked-up pedo in a daycare center.
Actual advice - uhhh, keep trying, if you want something go for it. Unless it's loli, since I don't remember seeing any numbers up there. And don't listen to the disaffected emo kids who got dumped for whining too much. Not being a mysogynistic prick will get you somewhere in life. Somewhere good.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 10:58

>>1
You fail for using cyrillic !
Actually, the whole of Russia fails for that, not just you

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 11:00

This is so cute... I hope you'll get her in the end. :/ Try to be charming, try to be as attractive as you can, don't give up, but don't press her either.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 11:03

>>12
No, it won't. Having some skills and/or luck will get you somewhere in life, misogyny is irrelevant.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 12:20

Man I can understand your pain. I myself was turned down by girls a lot.
At your case: you shouldn't give up! You just need to catch the right moment. Be here when she has a bad time, cheer her up, show her that you care about her and maybe you'll reach your goal.

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-08 12:21

>>12
>>14
>>15
That's the exact reason why I did post this thing: if people on /b/ could be assed to read through it and actually give a couple of decent responses, then hell, I'm more than happy to have 10 trolls per every normal message. Messages yours kind of prove my rule, well, mabye 5 trolls per 1 normal post.

I'm still in need of some good advices on how I can gently, but still steadily push her in the LOVE ME LOVE ME direction

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 14:23

youve known her for quite a while so im assuming she knows you well. with that in mind, theres no way to push her into falling in love with you. well, maybe if you get her addicted to coke or heroin and you become a dealer, she'll definitely fall in love with you. even trade blow for blow. anyway, the important thing is that she knows how you feel about her. if you stop pushing and act yourself and become involved and confident with whatever it is youre trying to make of yourself, she'll notice you as a different person, hopefully a person she likes knowing that in the back of her mind you like her. with newly found self-esteem you might attract other girls and forget that crack whore.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 14:32

Beware! Don't force her like "love me! love me!" it can ruin everything.
Love isn't something that you can buy. You cannot force someone to love you.
What you need to do is to show her that she can count on you, that you will be there when she needs you. Girls just want to feel secure. They mostly search for a guy who can protect them. Give her this protection, be always on her side and you're on a right path. But be careful not to overrun her.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 14:51

>>5
eng lit is for faggots

>>7
Faggot

>>9

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 15:00 (sage)

>>20
Fuck, that failed hard.

>>5
eng lit is for faggots

>>7
Faggot

>>9
Yeah art is great if he wants to flip burgers for the rest of his life

>>12
He has been going for it. What are you dense? I'm the goddamn BATMAN

>>16
>>19
Hahaha, oh wow.

To be honest, your situation looks pretty dark but you might be able to come through. What you need to do is let her know that you've gotten over her, even if you haven't. Start seeing other girls and tell her about it. Stop being her bitch and stop acting like a puppy looking for affection around her. bla bla bla, bla bla bla bla, bla bla, blaaaaaaa bla bla blaaaaa bla blaaa. Blaaa bla bla blaa bla bla. BLA BLA BLAAA BLA BLAAAA BLAAAAAA BAAAAAAALELA LBLAAAA BLAELB DLDB

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Name: A wang 2006-05-08 16:24

>>1
tl;dr

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 17:29

>>19
Beware! Don't force her like "love me! love me!" it can ruin everything.
You're telling me what I've said in anime doesn't work?

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 20:00

>>23
  Anonymous at 8 May 2006: 17:29
>>19
Beware! Don't force her like "love me! love me!" it can ruin everything.
You're telling me what I've said in anime doesn't work?

youre telling me rei ayanami will never love me!? =(

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 20:57

>>1 so you're still under 15?, that explaiis it...

you'll see, theres no soo much room in this days for the victorian "im tough but yo make me be a wussy" kind of things, shure, the flowers ARE a good idea, but you are about one full year back whith them...

you shoud  just let her be for a while, DON'T FORCE HER; YOU /B/TARD, her heart is in a turmoil, world fallin apart kind of girly things; do something new for you, preferably a "contact" sport until you build some courage.

you gotta be ASSERTIVE,not just an ASS, COCKY, not just a DICK...

she already Knows you dig her?, so what, they usualy do and still pretend you're her "wussy-friend-whit-no-balls-to-ask-me-out"; you've gotta shake that rep off if you're serious about this girl

also , dont be afraid to date oter girls, just don be a dick when doing so licke showin them of and stuff; if you find none who you like the better you can try later 'cause she'll never forgot you said you liked her and you're now so self confident and mature and shit... it will be like in those  fantastic-romance chikflicks and your'll have succeded

hope this works out, but since lounge is like textual /B/ i must digress and say...

DESU=USED, so gettafok off ma internets you 12 yo bosnian

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-09 3:45

She really is no bitch, that much I can tell you. *sigh* SHITSUXFAG, I suppose

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-09 4:23

>>26
You're a fag. Step 1

>>21
Art Majors get more pussy than god. Please read. Second, you can't outsource us. Third, shut the fuck up CS major, enjoy your indian brothers taking your jobs.

Step two: You suck >>26

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-09 5:11

Yeah, you suck too, >>27 but I'm still gay for you

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-09 9:01

uhm. from a girl's perspective you seem to be pretty decent. but if by now, she hasn't developed any feelings for you, i would move on and try not to seem creepy/despo in the way that she would freak/pity you.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-09 9:03

credits you for making a move.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-09 9:12

Date other girls. If that doesn't make her reconsider her feelings towards you, nothing else will. Right now you're the one chasing her, you have to reverse the situation and make her chase you.

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-09 9:20

>>31
Yeah I know you mean it well, but you don't seem to understand. She's no highschool dramalama, if I start to date other girls she'll see that I got over my alleged love pretty quick and will surely turn away forever. She's got this annoying pride thing, not too much, but still

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-09 16:31 (sage)

>>27
If you are going to waste your time with a education it should at least be something that will make you money. A better idea would be to pretend to be a art major instead, no one will be able to tell and you won't have to waste some of your best years doing shit. Burger flipping does not need to be outsourced because you already have a steady stream of hardworking Mexicans crossing your boarders. pls2stopbeingretarded

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 8:21

>>32
What's this pride thing? I don't remember anything like that in the first post.

Anyway, I don't think there is much hope in changing the way she sees you, best (low) chance would be the "date other girls" in my opinion. She even offered to sever the links  after your flower thing. You can try one or two more stunts like that, but chances are you'll fall from the "friend" zone to the "stalker" zone.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 12:28

You are becoming or are an intelectual whore.. please take your time reading thise site it will probably change you and if not then your just a miserable human being GL..
http://www.intellectualwhores.com/
Men are not toys, we dominate be a man ffs and dominate the bitch Jking ;)

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 14:29

I can't figure out the whole "How to make them fall in love with you" thing either, I just know that the only time girls have said they love me is when I just was real nice towards them but NEVER made a move.

It seems that in my (pitiful) experience that women can't have feelings for a guy who declares theirs first. I dunno though, I might be totally wrong. I personally love telling girls how I feel about them, but all that gives me is good friends. They never go further. Maybe it takes the fun and "mystery" out of it?  The reason I say that is because women seem to think feelings are a mystery, completely non logical and henceforth that's why they're not men. They LIKE being irrational and illiogical. I mean, isn't that what they hear from all their friends who've been dumped 12 times/in love 12 times? "When u have strong feelings for a boy, zomg it must b tru love!!11"

Name: Love_fiasco-guy 2006-05-10 16:00

>>34
The pride thing is this: she's not a slut, but also not a holier-than-thou girl. You know, that kind of girl who is nice BUT also knows her worth. Not too preoccupied with what people think of her but also not completly disillusioned. In short: the fucking golden middle of everything!
>>36
Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said anything...oh well, a big mistake it was I guess, but otherwise she'd notice that I even have a slight HINT of feelings

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 17:47

>>37
There's gotta be at least one guy on 4chan who's gotten further than "I have feelings for you... Oh, you don't feel the same way? Darn." That can't be end of it all.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 18:40

>>38
Sorry.

After six or seven of these things I just unloaded love.sys .

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 20:00

>>39
I bet now you keep getting error messages. "Brain can not find the file 'Satisfaction.exe' Do you want to abort life?"

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