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Foreign Accents

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-18 16:13

I've been wondering for a while, what kind of stereotypes do Japanese people have about Americans speaking Japanese? For example, in the United States, there is the stereotype that an Asian speaking English cannot pronounce L's or TH's correctly, is there a similar stereotype for Americans speaking japanese?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-18 16:17

I don't know, but isn't it obvious? We pronounce everything so differently. Our Rs don't sound like their Rs. Our Rs are so fucking germanic, not soft Rs like latin-based languages. Don't even get me started with the vowels.

So yeah, I'm pretty fucking sure they have a stereotype. Try speaking japanese with an American accent, you can totally tell it's sounds fucking weird. And vice versa.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-18 17:25

>>1
Yes. Period.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 5:51

>>1
Japanese here.

Stereotypes do exist, but they're not about accents. English intonation and prosody are much more noticeable. Generally speaking, Japanese is "flat" when it comes to intonation, so when Americans speak Japanese as they do English, we think they're placing too much stress on a word. Also, body language looks exaggerated.

Accent wise, the American accents aren't very noticeable to normal Japanese ears. Maybe Americans sound a little more mature than Japanese, but it's not that different.

I think this is because the Japanese language has much fewer phonemes, i.e., Japanese roughly divides the sound spectrum. If you're good at mimicking prosody, it's not that difficult to sound like a native speaker to Japanese monolinguals' ears because your American accent most likely falls within the roughly divided phonemic classes. In fact, your average Japanese can't distinguish the General American from typical British English at all.

Interestingly, my English teacher speaks Japanese pretty well and I thought he had only a slight accent. But as my English improved, gradually my ears became "tuned" and started picking up his accent more. To me, it's like his pronunciation was getting worse each day. Apparently, he was actually getting better because he was living in Japan and talked with us everyday.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 15:22

>>4
What does "DATTEBAYO" mean?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 17:54

>>2
>Our Rs are so fucking germanic, not soft Rs like latin-based languages

What the fuck are you talking about? Americans, next to the English, have the softest Rs of any European language. Latin languages roll them, and Germans' are guttural.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 18:55

>>6
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Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 22:24

>>5
You either got it off Naruto or Tofugo
Go weeaboo yourself

Oh, and I just heard that many Japanese think pretty much all of us wouldnt be able to learn Japanese - (This is just what I heard from a Japanese grammar book)

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 11:18

>>6
American accent with its [ɹ]'s, [w]'s and especially [ɪ]'s in the place of [j] makes you sound like a gay faggot. I don't like it, although other English accents are even worse.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 12:57

>>8
>>9
WELL IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HELPME FUCK YOU
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Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 11:56

Studying Mandarin in school and going to Beijing and hearing their accent is like linguistics itself telling you "gg no re"

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 12:29

>>11
What's the deal? My native language has both phonemes that even sound exactly as in Chinese.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 17:00

>>1
patricia martin

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 18:21

>>12
What? Sorry, I don't really know what you're saying, but I'd boil down the lingual shock to "suddenly 儿s, thousands of them"

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 21:56

>>14
I was a little drunk that time. Nevermind.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-23 6:36

>>14
wanr le?!

confused the shit outta me when i first heard it. Worst Chinese accent ever

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-23 18:19

>>16
I think it's pretty cool sounding, actually. I just find it hard as fuck to understand.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-25 18:48

>>2
English Rs are completely different from any other Rs in germanic language. Any english native speaker will immediately be exposed by his, tongue-back-in-the-throat, R (and L and W), or any other language in the world for that matter.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-25 20:31

Vietnamese has the same R's as in English.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-25 23:24

>>17
yeah "worst Chinese accent ever" was an overstatement on my part. Hong Kong has the worst accent/language in china.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-26 4:05

FUCK YOU ALL!
eRRe con eRRe cigaRRo eRRe con eRRe baRRil Rapidas Ruedan las Ruedas del feRRocaRRil

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