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Things you love and hate about a language

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 3:04

Ex:

Spanish:
Love: Knowing Spanish so you can have sex with sexy Spanish bitches
Hate: Declensions

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 4:24

Arabic:
Love: sound of the language
Hate: Arabs

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 6:31

Mandarin:
Love - The sound
Hate - the 1000000000000000000 characters

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 7:24

English:
Love: tons of obscure words and subtleties
Hate: txtspk

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 8:01

>>2
>Hate: Arabs

Try Lebanon/Egypt (and likewise, Lebanese/Egyptian). They're the most liberal Arabs and aren't like you think.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 8:02

Russian:
Love: The sound, the system and the elegance of the language.
Hate: Nothing. Can't find anything I hate about it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 10:30

>>6
gb2/soviet/

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 11:50

>>5
I don't care about their politics or what religion they follow, I hate their race.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 15:24

In before japanese

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 16:43

>>8
Oh, that's so much better, retard.

Actually, Arabic has this sort of weird toning that sometimes sounds very poetic.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 22:17

Sign Language
Love: Convenient, quiet conversations (while eating, through a window, at a distance)
Hate: deaf people who look down on the hearing

Spanish
Love: understanding what the people around me are saying
Hate: it's boring

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-06 22:26

>>10

I've read in some places that the best Arabic literature and poetry was written before they got way too strict with their religious beliefs towards the end of their Golden Age. Most of it is shunned or "non existent" anymore within Arab culture. They're often regarded as poetic and beautiful, but I don't know the name of any in particular.

Latin:
Love: The power and eloquence of spoken Latin
Hate: Dead language, lol

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-07 1:44

>>12
>I've read in some places that the best Arabic literature and poetry was written before they got way too strict with their religious beliefs towards the end of their Golden Age. Most of it is shunned or "non existent" anymore within Arab culture. They're often regarded as poetic and beautiful, but I don't know the name of any in particular.

Being an Arab, I can only look back to the liberal Islamic Golden Age and hope that the faggy fundie faggots ruling our countries now will choke on a dick and die so we can return our mindset to early Islam.
Early Islamic countries and caliphates had freedom of speech and religion, can you believe that?

Anyway, this isn't /n/.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-07 2:20

>>10
LOL butthurt sandnigger

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-07 9:04

>>1
Declensions? What declensions?

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-07 9:16

>>15
Fuckin Google

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-07 9:36

>>13
/n/ is dead

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-07 18:14

>>17

And that's a good thing, too.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-07 22:19

>>18
You'd say so, faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-08 13:34

>>19
Cry more

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-10 23:35

>>18
>>19
>>20

Back on topic, faggots.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-11 23:10

>>21
go pve

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-12 21:34

>>6
>Russian:
>Love: The sound, the system and the elegance of the language.
>Hate: Nothing. Can't find anything I hate about it.

Its either because Russian is your first language, or because you didnt learn much of it. Russian grammar is fucked up beyound belief, I cant even imagine why someone would call it elegant.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-13 17:08

>>23

I've learnt it to a near-fluent level, and it being difficult doesn't mean it's fucked up.

It isn't perfect, of course, but in comparison to any other language I know/have read about/heard, it is very beautiful and elegant.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-13 18:08

gaelic
love: everything said in it sounds funny and it is easy
hate: that every fucking gaelic speaker is a christian

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-14 9:02

german:

love - the way men sound
hate - the way women sound

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-14 21:07

Icelandic

love - it's beautiful
hate - I don't speak it

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-14 23:30

>>28

Here is a traditional Icelandic Folk Song, sung around their time of celebrating past exploits in their history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V6T93D4g8k

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-22 15:36

>>1
svenskos
hate=svenskos
love anna nyblom

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-22 16:44

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-22 16:49

Znémogiï'ttǫąn [znœmouēhKH'tNãng]

Love: The singing way in which it's pronounced
Hate: Complicated structure

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-22 18:39

>>29
I have concluded that languages without vowel harmony are pig disgusting.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-22 22:58

>>33
go away turkish

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 5:32

>>34
wat
Finnish > Gay Icelandic humming

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 10:37

Hala Bubla

Love: The easy grammar and the funny sounds
Hate: No one takes me seriously when I speak it ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 12:49

>>35
Finnish = homo

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 16:20

>>37
Fuck off back to your swedish thread, fag

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 20:28

Danish

Love: Easy to learn, sounds beautiful (imo lol).
Hate: Fucking soft d's and glottal stops.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 7:32

Tzikitytzikitytshiizhshiiiiiish

Love: Knowing this language you can communicate with snakes :O
Hate: The words are too long.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 11:18

>>38
Finnish = flaming ghey

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 15:22

Turkish has the eloquence of Finnish, but without the gayness...

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-25 15:18

>>42
No, it is just as gay, but I'm letting this one slide because of holy GET

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-25 17:04

Christianity is the worst religion for civilization, since redemption is dependent upon faith, rather than good works, and a lifetime of wickedness can be redeemed by a death-bed conversion.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-25 20:28

Arabic
Love: its so fucking rich
Haet: EXTREMELY DIFFICULT

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 6:19

>>44
What the fuck are you talking about

>>42
Hungarian > both

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 6:31

>>46
TÖLTÖTT PÖRKÖLT

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 15:23

>>23
Ешьте дерьмо и умереть

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 17:02

I like Hungarian's overall sound, vowel harmony, some awesome words (mainly front vowel words like szeretett, nemesen, egészségedre), and the suffixes. I like being able to drop pronouns and the word "is" in many cases - it feels very natural. Being an English speaker, I'm glad that the pronunciation can almost always be determined from the spelling, and that there are fewer vowel sounds than in English. Verb particles are usually pretty logical too (and often have a corresponding English phrasal verb), which is nice.

However, I find it pretty difficult (there are quite a lot of grammatical cases and different verb conjugations), and when I pronounce some words like "sincs" there is far too much of the "sh" sound. I find it annoying how the Hungarian keyboard switches z and y. I'm also not entirely sure Hungarian food would suit me :)

>>46
What is your opinion of it? Are you also learning it?

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-27 18:49

>>49
No, I'm not learning Hungarian, but I've been to Budapest and I think the language really is melodic and very nice to hear.

And also, Turkish has vowel harmony and the ability to drop "is" and pronouns too, but I don't think it sounds as good, probably due to the abundance of harsh consonants or because it sounds dull to me since it's my mother tongue.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-28 12:04

>>50
hungarian is pig disgusting
so is turkish

Name: Kumori 2008-04-30 10:26

Mandarin

Love:Spying on China, Protecting the USA!(USA! USA!)

Hate:  China, Chinese language, Chinese people

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-30 13:35

Finno-ugric family is ghey and deserves to die.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-30 14:03

Indo-European language family:

Love: Most of history's superpowers have been/are Indo-European.

Hate: Most have betrayed the Indo-European religions for semitic religions, should have worked together to kill off the arabs, turks, chinks and japs.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-02 12:45

>>54
Have you considered suicide recently?

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-03 0:31

英語は一番だ!
好き:みなが話せ
嫌い:太っている人

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-03 6:12

>>56
i lol'd

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-03 22:22

>>57
FUCK YOU WEEABOO!

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-03 22:58

>>58
butthurt

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-04 3:22

>>59
I SMELL A FUCKING WEEABOO!

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-04 4:32

>>60
i smell butthurt

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-05 15:36

>>56
>>57
>>58
>>59
>>60
>>61
This thread went downhill fast

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-06 0:34

>>62
i came

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-12 20:43

Portuguese

Love: how it sounds and how it is elegant when someone uses it properly.
Hate: how it is in a terrible decline.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-13 10:29

Corelian

Love: Chicks dig it. I'm fat and pimply but when I speak this, chicks are swarming around me like flies, rubbing themselves to me while trying to open my zipper to suck my penis.
Hate: It's wwiting system (example: ერՀ თեաბեშია. Gezm treyyibeb'bizh = I am happy). Too many sounds are represented by too few letters. ե can also represent u and f.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-13 10:37

>>65
Forgot: რ is supposed to be romanized as oe (ö), not e. ե is e.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-13 12:10

>>65
>>66
It only exists in your head.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-13 12:14

>>67
The ladies think otherwise

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-13 15:21

Lithuanian.

Love: The sound is pure awesomeness.
Hate: Too fucking difficult.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-03 20:02

English.

Love: Chanspeak. Celtic accents. Movies.
Haet: Messed up, unphonetic orthography. I often don't know how to pronounce certain words. Sometimes I hear a word and could think of 5 different ways of spelling it.

Finnish.

Love: It's weird.
Hate: It's really freaking weird.

German.

Love: Can sound very "epic". Many words, especially combined nouns, sound very, very cool.
hate: Genders. Some everyday-words sound pig-disgusting when pronounced in a certain way. East-Saxonian accents.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-04 8:40

Serbian

Love: sounds cool
Hate: serbs

Name: ^^ 2008-06-19 2:13

Japanese

like: the sound, and written language (as impractical as it is)

also animu

Hate: Japanese people, and weebs

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-19 2:14

>>68
>the ladies

you sir could not sound seedier if you tried

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-20 10:37

>71

As someone with serb family, I totally fucking agree.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-20 12:04

Dutch

Love: Motherlanguage, Easy to speak other languages if it's your motherlanguage, vast vocabulary

Hate: It's the most unreal grammar that exists, Noone speaks it...

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-20 12:33

>>72
俺はチロールがを感づく・・・

>>Name: ^^
>>also animu
>>hate:...weebs
>>animu
>> ^^

。。。てめええええ---------------------- etc.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-20 17:19

>>72
written language (as impractical as it is)
haha, you know, the reason I started learning Japanese is that a weeaboo I know IRL told me about how the Japanese writing system works, and I was impressed by how smart a solution those Japs have found (I thought it was basically the same as Chinese, with like 50000 characters in use)

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-20 18:47

Hah yeah, pretty much same, I have a Japanese friend and he told me some stuff, taught me the kana in two days. If you like efficient writing systems, you should check out arabic and korean too, which spend less time than the Japas really. It's odd how stroke order is pretty much the same, though, with Kanji and just writing cursive, apart from the things I hate, like writing 'ore' takes about 15 strokes, where as I is just 1...

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-22 4:20

>>77
can you give a brief run down or anything about how the writing system works? seriously i fucking hate kanji

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-22 15:35

Old English

Love: Sounds awesome

Hate: There is no future tense. You can only infer the future from context

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-22 16:01

>>79

There are two 'alphabets' (I don't have a great knowledge about language terminology, but alphabet is the closest word I can use to describe them). They are alphabets in that, each character represents a syllable, a phonetic. Each has 46 characters you need to learn, with variations, bringing the real total i suppose to about 66. This works by the use of two little dashes like " or a little circle like the degree symbol. This sounds very confusing at first, but the best example I can give without using any pictures or actual Japanese text is that "KA" on its own is pronounced "KA" but adding a " to it makes it "GA".

Hiragana, the most common of these writing systems, is what is used for things like compound words and other points of grammar, and also is used when one does not want/cannot use kanji for the word they want to say. It also plays an important part in conjunction with Kanji (the more complicated characters you see) to creat advectives and verb variations.

Katakana, the one that people seem to have most problems with (probably due to the fact that it's not as easy to come across as the others) is used primarily for writing words of foreign origin, and can get confusing because of the Japanese tongue, in which words such as "ADVANCE" have to be changed so Japanese people can pronounce them ("ADOBANSU"). Speaking Japanese, funnily enough, you will find you'll have to pronounce foreign words in this broken up way for anyone to be able to understand you properly. Katakana is also used for certain kanji words in comics, sheerly for simplicity's sake.

Kanji, the most complicated aspect of the writing system, is godknow's how many (to get by about 2,000) characters of chinese origin that represent a concept or an object. They get confusing when you realise that most of them have two readings (for example the kanji for "now/current" can be pronounced "IMA" or "KON", depending on whether it's grouped with another kanji or not. They conjugate in ways that seem very chinese, too, for example, "DENSHA" (train) literally means electric (den) wheel/car (sha). If I've explained this all terribly I apologise, but that's essentially the bare bones of it. If you're confused hopefully someone else could clear it up for you.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-22 18:45

KSEhxHetTenúktUÑ

Pros: No one else understands me
Cons: No one else understands me

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-22 19:14

>>82

/lang/ is no place for clever jokes.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-22 19:49

>>81
Katakana and Hiragana are syllabaries.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-24 1:38

>>81
haha thank you but it seems i have wasted your time. That was all stuff i already knew lol

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-24 3:19

>>85
oh godammit ... in that case just check out this link. It goes a bit more in depth, but I can't think of anything else to answer your query without going in to as little depth as possible (unless of course you want to start learning, in which case I highly reccomend using the site from the link as a starting point)

http://www.guidetojapanese.org

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-24 9:14

>>86
Listen to this man. Also, http://www.freejapaneselessons.com if you need something easier.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-24 9:19

>>85
I'm >>77, and what struck me as smart about all that was that
- Around 3000 characters are in use. That's much, but an amount that can actually be easily learned within a few years, as opposed to all those the Chinese use, where everyone is technically semi-illiterate.
- Every word can be written using the syllabries if you don't know the kanji.
- The syllabries are completely phonetic, save for a few well-recognizable exceptions.
- Kanji solve the problem of homophones. In English, words that sound the same are written using different letters, resulting in the ortography not being phonetic anymore. When I read an English word unknown to me, I can often think of many different ways to pronounce it. When I hear one, I'm not always sure how to write it. In Japanese, I can at least make out with which kana it would be written, and with that knowledge also look up the kanji for it if I wish. (I'd say that Spanish and Italian are superior to both in this respect, though)
- The Japs mostly took fairly simple hanzi and/or simplified them. This makes it often much shorter to write one kanji instead of up to four kana, or 8 Latin letters.
- The meaning of a kanji can still be guessed from its appearance.
- Due to kana and the use of romaji, it's not that hard to write Japanese on a computer.

In short, I like that they basically took all the pros of using a syllabry and the Chinese system while remedying many of their respective shortcomings.
(Also, I'm not claiming to be an expert with any of this shit, so nobody rage if I got something wrong)

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-24 9:57

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-25 19:25

german


love: the grammar, just stick the the rules, no exceptions

hate: the grammar, too many fucking rules, and no exceptions.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-25 19:48

>>90
I think there are a few exception verbs

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-26 5:15

>>90
wait till you get further in

Name: الأنونيموس 2008-06-28 14:22

>>90

>German
>no exceptions

Oh, if only ;____;

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-29 15:22

>>90
German is pretty structured compared to the patchwork that is English, but it does have its fair share of exceptions, and it's a friss oder stirb situation with them (and not a fress oder sterbe situation).

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-06 19:26

Spanish

love: I speak it
hate: I can't properly use irregular verbs and it's mother tongue )x


English:

Love: it's the easiest of all languages, everyone speaks it
hate: it's the easiest of all languages, everyone speaks it


German

love: It has attitude, really complete, pronunciation, and it brings me memories
hate: I can't fucking speak it and half of my family does


Japanese

love: I like how it sounds, pronunciation is easy, kanji
hate: all the weeabos learning it, and all the people with no social life that are nippon-religious.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-07 10:47

>>95
I can't properly use irregular verbs and it's mother tongue )x

How can you possibly do that when it's your own mother tongue? Spanish isn't even that hard.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-07 14:21

>>96
have you heard of cluttering?... it sucks

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-07 16:45

>>97
Oh, I see.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-08 9:07

French

Love: Familiarity, practical application (second official language FTW)
Hate: The 'r'. The 'r' is constantly kicking my ass.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-08 11:51

100GET

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-12 6:31

Jibba-Jabba

Love: Pitying fools
Hate: Being Pitied by other fools!

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-12 16:15

Japanese:
Love: particles.
Hate: compelled inferiority.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-12 17:19

>>102
That's Japanese for ya. Not much you can do about it aside from not learning/unlearning it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-12 22:28

>>101
bix nood

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-15 17:47

>>95

Then learn it, faggot.  It's not hard.

>>70

THANK YOU!  As a german-speaking American, while I can understand everything west of Berlin, once I get into the East, I'm fucked.  Seriously.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-16 10:29

>>105
Yeah, that's normal. I'm from Hamburg and often don't understand shit when talking to them, while I have no problem at all with Austrian for example. When Saxonians are interviewed on TV, they sometimes even have to subtitle it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-16 12:56

>>106

That's really cool, and kinda hilarious, actually.

P.S. I'm assuming you can't call people from Sachsen "Saxons", as that has a completely different meaning.  Is that the case?

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-16 13:53

>>107
Nah, I just wasn't sure about the English word, read >>70's "Saxonian" and re-used his mistake. Saxons or Sachsen is correct.

Their dialect also sounds hilarious to most other Germans, by the way. It's always hard for me to take them serious, at first.
I remember when I was doing my time in the forces, my first instructor was an Ossi. Half of the recruits burst out laughing when he screamed his first sentence. Luckily, he wasn't too pissed about it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-29 16:19

>>16
Spanish has no declensions. Only conjugations.
Nouns decline. verbs are conjugated.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-31 11:13

French

Love: The emotional quality embedded within each word
Hate: Not being able to pronounce their damned rolling "R"

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-31 11:17

>>110
There's no rolling R in French, at least not in the standard version.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-31 11:30

>>111

The standard version? You mean the R is prevalent only in french dialects..? Because among the things I still clearly remember from learning french is their rolling R.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-31 16:26

>>112
Yes, only in the southern dialects, per Wikipedia. The rolling R is an r you'd find in, for example, Spanish, Italian, Finnish... But hardly in French.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-31 21:46

the French R is more of a glottal sound.

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-01 4:31

like in german

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-11 22:57

>>114

Yes, precisely! I must have confused words or something, but that's what I meant.

Name: RedCream 2008-08-12 11:08

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Name: Anonymous 2008-08-12 17:29

>>117
VINGT !

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-16 22:42

>>114
Actually, it's technically a uvular.

Edith Piaf and the other old French singers always rolled their Rs. Then again, they also pronounced word-final E (you know, 'cause it's a song).

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-16 22:44

Portuguese:

I love that it isn't Spanish.

I hate the future subjunctive.

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-18 14:53

>>120
Ah, sort of a GNU's Not Unix thing, eh?

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-18 16:51

English: too many niggers who axe they momma

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-18 22:47

I didn't know French had strange RRRRRs
...I just listened to an Edith Piaf song and she has a very specific accent with strange Rs. Kind of a tremollo?
QUAND IL ME PRrrREND DANS SES BRRrrRRAS

I like speaking French and I like the poetry.
The most annoying part would be not fucking up the homophones when writing.

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-19 1:00

Arabic

Love: triconsonantal roots.
Hate: too much phlegm.

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-19 9:03

>>124
too much or not enough?

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-19 13:28

Telugu

Love - Lots of vowel use
Hate - Sounds like shit if the person has an annoying voice, aka redneckish.

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-19 13:43

I like how people use language to communicate.

I hate when people use language in a movie theater.

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-19 15:06

STORE PIKKE LIGE MIDT I RØVEN!

Name: Anonymous 2008-08-19 22:25

>>121
Nah, more like conscientious objection. Kind of like learning Czech instead of Polish, Dutch instead of German, or Lao instead of Thai.

Don't change these.
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