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Finnish

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-28 21:05

Does it have any purpose? It looks like an interesting language...but nobody really speaks it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-29 0:36

Tolkien based one of his elven languages off of it. Maybe more, I can't remember.

Of course, that doesn't make it any more practical to learn. Unless you're planning to move to Scandinavia, it's probably not worth the effort.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-29 3:25

>>2
Not even if you're planning to move to Scandinavia.
>>1
Finnish is 100% useless. But that shouldn't stop you from learning it if you really like the language.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-29 5:13

well... there are 5.3 milj Finish who speak it :D

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-29 9:30

What's the diff between Finnish, Swedish and Norwayish or whatever?

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-29 9:47

>>5
Finnish isn't even in the same language family as Swedish and Norwegian, so quite a lot.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-29 10:17

Norwayish.
LUL.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-02 9:31

Finland is merely East Sweden.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-02 13:54

Wrong, Finland is North-West Russia or atleast it will be soon if Putin wins.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-04 11:09

No en mää teistä tiedä mut mää ainakin haluan nussia neekeriä pistää banaania niiden perseeseen.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-04 11:33

humpa humpa

finnish is more like hungarian language!

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-04 20:17

>>3
why learn a language if it has no use?

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-05 3:52

>>13
why play videogames if it has no use?
why post on 4chan if it has no use?
etc...

for fun.

Name: !NSB/tixtek 2007-12-06 1:52

>>11 two umlauted letters in a row?  you're just making that up.  like that made-up language Numa Numa was written in.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-06 3:07

>>15
Umlaut is fun to say ^_^

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-06 11:07

Interesting fact: umlaut is a German concept and has to do with changing pronunciation (umlaut means changed sound). In the nordic languages ä is a letter, not an umlaut of a.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-06 15:35

>>17
Finnish is in no way related to nordic languages.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-06 16:28

>>18
Their spelling is. They got ä from Swedish.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-06 20:02

So what exactly IS finnish good for>?

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-06 22:08

>>20
Becoming a Metalist

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-09 18:29

>>20
getting finnish chicks

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-11 10:32

Voi vittujen kevät ja kyrpien takatalvi!

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-11 11:49

Sorry guys I can't hear you, the neighbors next door are arguing in Norwayish again.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-11 16:33

Everyone in Finland speaks English or Swedish. No need to learn Finnish.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-11 19:46

>>25
Everyone in Planet Earth speaks English. No need to learn other languages.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-13 19:48

>>26

Ummm no.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-15 18:33

>>27
Ummm yes.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-16 11:26

>>28
Ummm no

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-17 3:33

>>29
Ummm yes.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-17 5:30

>>26
what the fuck are you doing on /lang/ then moron

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-17 6:30

>>31
PROTIP: The fact that every language besides English is useless doesn't make them any less interesting.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-17 14:15

Finnish is a good language if you don't mind studying the rest of your life and still not even nearly mastering it.

Anyway, Finnish sounds a bit like Japanese (pretty much in fact) and well is the best way to encrypt text. And yeah, Tolkien taught himself it.

You'd like it if you learned. The only thing is that it's almost as hard as Chinese. Just in a different way.

Joo vitut osaan ees amerikan kieltä. Selitä siinä sitten suomesta. Tapan itteni.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-18 5:52

>>32
not useless.
i make a living from speaking Chinese and english

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-18 9:17

>>34
And I'm sure somewhere in the world there's someone that makes a living by eating nose boogers. Just because it's useful to one person, it doesn't make a difference in the big scheme of things.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 5:25

>>35
>Just because it's useful to one person
>Just because it's useful
>useful

point made

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 6:55

>>36
>Just because it's useful to one person
>useful to one person
>one person

point made

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 15:32

Only languages that have any international use are English, Español, Français, Japanese, and Chinese.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 16:46

>>38 Chinese
No.
It's a myth spreaded by misguided people just because China is a rising economy. Actually, Chinese businessmen prefer to conduct international business using English.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 17:55

>>39
Lies. I have yet to meet a single Chinese person who speaks English you can make sense of.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 19:04

>>40
You don't know any businessmen and you don't conduct any business, that's why.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 22:11

>>41

Actually gaijin, he does.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 6:40

>>40
its true
china plan to make English one of their main languages by 2011

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 7:51

>>43
Anyone who has been to China knows how absurd that is. They might as well pick Dutch, they have about as many speakers.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 9:56

>>44
Fuck, what part of "BUSINESS" you chinaboos can't understand? Is it the "busi" or the "ness"?
There's no point in learning Chinese for business purposes because the Chinese conduct business in English. Get it through your thick skull.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 11:01

>>45
I would, except I think you are lying!

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 12:09

>>43 "[citation needed]". What does "main" mean here?
>>44 If by "about" you mean "plus-minus three hundred million".
>>45 When they trade internationally, they often use English, but when they conduct business inside China, they use Chinese most of the time.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 7:47

Learning finnish like cut-in-half dick - pointless (unless you plan on moving here, which is very pointless as well -.-).

All in all, Finland is pointless.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 12:05

Is there good pornography in Finnish? If not, then there's no need to learn it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 16:54

>>15
Nope, it's really Finnish. Although it has some grammatical errors (first talking about a nigger (singluar) and then referencing to it as it would be plural), and it's not the "real" written Finnish, just some dialect.
A free translation would be "Well, I don't know about you, but I'd like to fuck a nigger and put some banana in their ass."

The correct written sentence would be "En tiedä teistä, mutta itse ainakin tahdon naida neekeriä ja työntää banaania hänen perseeseensä."

Finnish is said to be one of the hardest languages to learn for foreign people, although it's not impossible. :)
It's hard to master though. Finnish is really complex language, with some nouns having easily over a hundred different conjugations (ie. house => (not in any order except for the beginning..) talo - taloni - talosi - talonsa - talomme - talonne - talonsa - talot - talossaan - talostaan - talossaankaan - taloonsakkaan - talossanikaan - talossasikaan - talossammekaan - taloissammekaan - taloissanikaan - taloissannekaan - taloista - taloistaan - taloistakaan....... the list goes on forever)
Many of those conjugations are (fortunately ;)) rarely used though.

Then there's many other problems too. Finnish is very different when comparing written and spoken language. Not only by pronouncication (that's the smallest part; pronouncication is pretty close to the written form of the word in most cases), but by sentence structure too.
These both can be translated to "they go":
Written language: he menevät
Spoken: ne menee

As you probably saw, conjugation is made by suffixes (omistusliite), not with prepositions.
My house - Taloni
This often gives troubles for foreign people - which suffix to use and when?

Then there's many dialects of Finnish language.
A bus can be "linja-auto", "linkki", "linjuri", "dösä", "bussi" and so on depending on where you live. ;)
Although it's only on the spoken word; there's standards on written language which are used in all parts of Finland.

I'm kinda running out of time, gotta go soon. If anyone needs more information (or wasn't scared from that and still wants to learn Finnish), maybe I can help. Just drop a reply and I'll try to answer. :)

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 17:32

>>50
Wow. I wanted to learn Finnish someday. Now I just lost interest.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 19:03

>>33

Moron. You know nothing about language.

Chinese is easy. Its characters are made of radicals and aren't that hard to learn (not harder than, say, learning the genders and conjugations of Russian words--in fact easier, since Chinese doesn't have that). The Chinese (unlike the Japs) speak very directly like in English, so it's easy to translate once you know it. And, again, there's NO FUCKING CONJUGATION. Tones are only moderately difficult at first.

Finnish is harder, but not much. It's very regular and its cases are for the most part simply adjectives made into an affix. Only thing in Finnish that's hard is understanding local slang, but it's the same thing in Norwegian, Japanese, Russian, Arabic and pretty much any other language. Even English, but to a smaller extent.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 20:39

>>50
NOUNS DO NOT CONJUGATE.

They decline.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-22 5:12

>>53
Sorry. My english isn't quite as good as it could be. I hope you got the point anyways. :)

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-22 17:49

>>52
What about the fucking kanji or whatever they are called in China. Pretty hard eh?

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-22 18:26

>>55

>Its characters are made of radicals and aren't that hard to learn (not harder than, say, learning the genders and conjugations of Russian words--in fact easier, since Chinese doesn't have that).

Lern2 reading comprehension

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-22 20:34

>>50
"It's hard to master though. Finnish is really complex language, with some nouns having easily over a hundred different conjugations"

http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html

Thought I'd share it with you

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-23 5:45

>>57
Yeah, I've seen that before. Just couldn't remember the URL.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-23 10:26

>>57

The thing with this, is that they follow rules, which in Finnish are extremely regular.

Once you know the rules governing the endings, you can apply them to other words, and you don't have to learn a gigantic vocabulary, or use small, annoying filler words like in English.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-23 15:07

Finnish is just an "easy, regular" language? Guess again.

This is what a person said about Finnish in Finlandforum (http://www.finlandforum.org/):

Recently, I started studying Finnish. Now it's starting to drive me a bit crazy. Too much messing around with the words. Conjugation, consonant gradation, partitiivi, genetiivi, verb forms, etc. They make my head spin. Too many rules! Why can they just leave the words alone? Evil or Very Mad

Voi vitsi! Suomea on tosi vaikeaa!

...

In my opinion, the difficulties of learning Finnish are very different from learning Japanese.

With Japanese, you have katakana (okay), hiragana (fine) and kanji (impossible). However, once you've memorised katakana and hiragana and some important kanji characters then you're good to go. The bulk of the remaining work is building your vocabulary and memorizing more kanji.

With Finnish, the alphabet is not a problem. However, there are a million grammatical rules which, in my opinion, is mind boggling. A simple word can mutate into all sorts of different forms depending on usage. So not only do you need to know the words, you also need to know how each word changes.

I know quite a lot of words already but still have trouble reading the newspaper. Some words just transform into something completely different even though it may simply be the past tense form of the word, for example.

Sorry, I don't mean to scare you.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-23 15:11

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-24 2:49

>>60

That "mutating form" you speak of is called a case. It's where instead of a language having words for from, by, of, for, I do, you do, we do, etc they change a part of the noun or verb to signify who or what it's talking about. Hungarian is a lot harder than Finnish and Estonian when it comes to this.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-24 6:19

If you call case declension for "MUTATING MONSTER LANGUAGE FROM OUTER SPACE", then you don't get to have an opinion on the difficulty of the language.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-24 15:10

>>33
lollasin

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-24 17:22

>>38
No point learning French either, I'd replace that with Korean in your list. Both Korean states have decently sized populations and the ROK is full of business opportunities for enterprising Westerners. Few Koreans know comprehensible English, too, and the only people who seem to know both languages down are Korean immigrants to the United States.

>>40
I know a lot of Chinese immigrants living here who can speak English with only a trace of an accent. But if you're planning on communicating with Chinese who haven't had a history of being expatriates for years, this Wikipedia article may be useful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Pidgin_English

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-26 15:42

There are 2,253 possible forms of the Finnish noun kauppa, or "shop":

http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html

lol finnish

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-29 19:42

>>66

Arabic has 2 million words. That's roughly 10 times as many as in English.

You can spout out crazy numbers like that out of context, but that only makes you an impressionable, ignorant moron. Words in Arabic are constructed from general roots depending on the Class of the word, the vowels you throw in there, etc.

The declension in Finnish has a similar effect. Instead of learning several thousand words, you can learn a couple of hundred endings and apply them to the words you know. You won't even have to learn "2,253", since a lot of them build upon each other. Like Kanji/Hanzi: you don't have to learn thousands of them as if each is a completely new alien symbol or some shit--they're mostly made up of a couple of hundred radicals or other Kanji. Additionally, why the fuck would you need to learn ALL of them? There are fuck knows how many tens of thousands of obscure Kanji, when you can get by just fine with 2,000.

tl;dr: You're all ignorant fucks. God damn. Put some thought into things instead of being awed by BIG SCARY NUMBERS.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-30 1:05

>>66

Also notice how it says "generated automatically by Fred Karlsson"

What does that say about the predictability and regularity of the language when you can generate it automatically?

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-30 5:04

Everyone in Finland speaks English or Svenska.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-30 11:02

>>68
Actually as a native speaker I can say all of the forms I saw there were correct Finnish.

>>67
lol trolled

But you missed one point. Each of those words has a distinct nuance because of the endings. Even if you knew what those endings "meant", as a non-native speaker you would have a hard time to understand the thoughts behind the combinations of the endings.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-30 15:40

>>70

You're explaining it as if it's some fucking magical language only comprehensible to The Sacred Finnish people.
The connections between various endings are still very learnable, they don't express thoughts and notions that only Finnish people can possibly comprehend. And the fact that you can apply these endings to most words (with Finnish being EXTREMELY fucking regular, as far as I know), you can learn less and express more.
Besides, Arabic has similar shit (look up Classes), and Russian has the exact same shit, only worse.

Also, way to misunderstand >>68
Saying it's really predictable is not saying it's wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-31 9:38

>>67
Two million words? O RLY? And how many of those do ordinary native-speakers of Arabic even know? Let alone use?

I bet 95% of those "two million words" only exist in dictionaries. And poetry written by "artistic" and self-important assholes.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-31 14:40

>>71
Could you link me to something on Classes?

Also, about the "zOMG a bajizzillion forms!!" comments, it's not that bad. I speak Russian and there are words I have never heard of (I don't have such a great vocabulary, due to rarely using it) but I can get the meaning from them since they are constructed from two or more simpler words that I do know.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-31 18:48

English can have a lot of words to if we considered see, seeing, saw, seen, etc all individual words.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-01 4:08

>>72

Native speakers know quite a lot of them, because of how they're constructed.

Arabic vocabulary consists of triliteral roots which are formed into words, each easily passing into 20,000+ forms (or "words"), the meanings and constructions of which you can easily deduct if you know the language well enough.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-01 18:31

>>73

No links, but here's some copypasta on the internets. (Also, don't whine about it being on the internets and thus lies plox. This guy obviously knows a little bit more about Arabic than most of you.)

Verb stems I and II are spelled identically, and the noun and adjective are also spelled the same as the verbs, though they are all pronounced differently. Arabic verbs distinguish not just tense and person the way English verbs do, but also number and gender. So, a verb has: the first person singular, first person plural, second masculine singular, second masculine dual, second masculine plural, second feminine singular, second feminine dual, second feminine plural, third masculine singular, third masculine dual, third masculine plural, third feminine singular, third feminine dual, third feminine plural; then all of these persons and numbers occur in the perfect, the imperfect the future, the subjunctive, the jussive, the energetic; and the 2nd persons also have masculine, feminine, singular, dual, and plural imperatives; then most of these persons and numbers have forms in the passive voice; so far we’re just talking about stem I...almost all verbs also have all the above forms in several or most of the other ten stems (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI); besides all of these, each stem also has masculine, feminine and plural active participles and passive participles, as well as verbal nouns, usually including multiple plural forms; then most of these forms take negative suffixes to form compound negatives; on top of all of this, Arabic verbs also take their direct and indirect objects in the form of enclitic pronouns (for example, كتبتيهولهم, katabtihúlhum = you single female wrote it to them...all one word); on top of all of this, most forms may take a variety of prefixes which correspond to English prepositions and conjunctions, such as "and", "for", "to", "then", as well as prefixed particles that indicate a question or urgency (I’m just thinking of these off the top of my head, so I’m probably overlooking a number of forms); then add to this the freedom with which all of these forms may take diacritics that indicate short vowels, long vowels, doubled consonants, nunation, genitives, accusatives, nominatives, construct-state markers, and definiteness/indefiniteness, plus the fact that words may be lengthened at will for esthetic purposes and to justify text, by adding tashdid in one or more places in a word, without limitation. As example of this, using the previous example: كتبتيهـولهم, كـتـبـتـيـهـولـهـم, كتبتيهولهـــــــم, كتبتــيهـــــــــــولهم, all of which say katabtihúlhum; then add any combination of matres lectionis, such as كَتَبْتِيهُولهُمْ, كَبْتــــيهُولهُمْ, aكتَبتِيهــولهـُم, and so on; and then you may select optional letterforms for esthetic effect, such as ڪَتَبْتِيهُولهُمْ, and so on. I once spent some time trying to figure out how many permutations of a word there could be (but not counting vowel pointing, tashdids, swash characters, or anything like that), but strictly the different grammatical and syntatical forms that are possible, and I stopped counting at 20,000

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-02 2:00

>>76
>first person plural, second masculine singular, second masculine dual, second masculine plural, second feminine singular, second feminine dual, second feminine plural, third masculine singular, third masculine dual, third masculine plural, third feminine singular, third feminine dual, third feminine plural

THEIR VERBS HAVE GENDERS?!

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-02 20:29

yep

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-03 10:50

>>77

I know French and Polish have different ways of saying "I'm so-and-so" for male and females.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-03 16:44

80GET!

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-03 23:58

Legeslegmegszentségteleníttethetetlenebbeiteknek

Agglutinative languages are FUN

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-07 13:57

>>22
you just learn a language to get chicks?

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-24 2:44

Suomionjootosivitunvaikeekieli.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-25 9:49

>>82

Lots of chicks dig how I'm being able to speak Russian and Spanish.

I should learn French, and the set will be complete.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-25 15:18

>>84

Commence par aller niquer ta mère.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-27 3:51

Women like Italian and French guys.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-02 9:34

paska lauta

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-03 10:21

>>86

Italian and French guys like each other.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 10:25

I loev languages with vowel harmony and agglutination, and Finnish is closely related to my native language so learning it might be easy, but I don't know what use it would have other than reading Kalevala.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 13:00

>>89
>Finnish is closely related to my native language

Estonian?
I guess that's the only language Finnish is closely related to.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-04 22:07

>>90
also Hungarian

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 1:41

Not closely to Hungarian really, though some similarities still remain.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 1:50

Oh yeah and of course there are some minor languages that are related to Finnish just like Estonian but they are not spoken widely and are not primary languages in any country. Livonian (Finnish: liivi) for example is the language that is closest to Finnish, but sadly enough, just about 20 people speak it according to wikipedia :P

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 4:45

I think Finnish has some similarities to Japanese/Korean and Altaic languages (some consider Japanese/Korean to be a distant branch of Altaic languages anyway) but not to the degree of being closely related.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 10:17

>>94
Wrong.
They're in no way related.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 12:54

>>95
Are you a jealous Swedish weeaboo or something?

Finnish and other Finno-Ugric languages do have some striking similarities with Japanese and the Altaic language group. However, that does not imply that Finnish is related to any of them in any way, as >>94 clearly stated. There simply isn't enough evidence.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 15:26

>>94

Aren't the Uralic languages a branch of the Altaic one too?

But even so, that's so far back that the relationship between the languages is almost irrelevant. Bengali, for instance, is a Indo-European language, but can hardly be called similar to most languages within Europe.

The similarities are so insignificant that this whole discussion about Finnish and Japanese being related is pointless.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 15:45

>>97
Aren't the Uralic languages a branch of the Altaic one too?

No, although it has been proposed.

The similarities are so insignificant that this whole discussion about Finnish and Japanese being related is pointless.

A nice non sequitur fallacy, isn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 16:42

>>96
No, I just hate Japan, Japanese people and Japanes language. But most of all, I hate non-Jap people that want to be Japs.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-05 17:01

>>99
lol racist

Also, 100GET

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-30 9:50

Finland is basically Sweden Jr. The swedes rolled up in there and made everyone their bitch, even the government. Hell, Swedish is an official language there. And the Finns don't do shit about it. Pussies.

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2009-03-22 18:48

Bumping because Finnish is AWESOME!

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2009-03-22 18:49

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-24 9:09

>>103
kuvalauta on parempi

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-24 12:13

There's not enough proof to put them in the same group, but there's a strange continuum of fundamental properties that goes along finnish->hungarian->turkish->mongolian->korean->japanese
okay not a continuum exactly as the parts they share are quite far apart, but nevertheless... Also, sumerian.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-24 13:46

>>105
>sumerian
heres where i call bullshit

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-26 6:29

>>106
No srsly. It's considered an isolate but there are a few similarities with those.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-27 4:43

>>106
Really?  You call bullshit when it gets there?

Absolute bullshit.

Finnish and Hungarian have well-established links, and they fall into the Uralic family.

There are some links for Turkish and Mongolian, but this is argued back and forth like no ones business.  I'd say they've just been in contact for hundreds of years, but other people would say they're genetically related.  People who do group these put them in the Altaic family.

There is no good evidence that Korean and Japanese are related to them, and no good evidence that Korean and Japanese are related to each other.  Again, I'd say hundreds of years of contact, but others would say they are related.  But this is much more tenuous.  Grouped with themselves, you could call this the Koreo-Japonic family.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-27 5:16

>>105
so in other words it's like evolution?

Genus Homo->Homo habilis->Homo erectus->Homo heidelbergensis->Homo sapiens

なるほどね!

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-27 5:20

Who cares about that kind of stuff actually? I mean how is it relevant that turkish and japanese may have originated from the same source like 100.000 years ago. do turkish people think they are japs just because of that or what lol.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-28 16:23

>>108
Exactly, the problem with the whole Altaic issue is, since Turkish and Mongolian are so diverse, if you "group" them together you might aswell go and group these somewhat similar other languages too, but none really have the amount of similarity like most indo-european languages have. Including the Sumerian bit -which I know as my mom was a sumerologist (and apparently that's not a word in english)- I think it just shows a linguistic ancestry sharing far, far away and nothing really more.

>>110
No, it's important in the sense that languages showing correlation are easier to learn for the speakers, and of course there's the pure academic aspect.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-29 7:44

>>108
here.

>>111
The Altaic languages, specifically the Turkic, Mongolian, and Tungusic families, have had extensive contact throughout history and pre-history. 

"Altaic" is probably a good name for an areal grouping of languages (specifically Turkic, Mongolian, and Tungusic languages) that share several features because they've been in contact for millenia.  It is probably not a good name for a language family.  And it probably should not include Korean, Japanese, Ainu, or Sumerian.

>>109
Historical linguistics and evolutionary biology have borrowed back-and-forth extensively since the late 1700s.

>>110
I'd have to go with an academic pissing contest, as to why it's important.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-29 10:36

>>81
Çekoslovakyalılaştıramadıklarımızdanmışsınız

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-04 8:02

>>112
I insist they're equally irrelevant on the grounds that geography has no bearing and contact between languages happens all the time. I think they should either just drop the whole thing or add the close isolates.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-06 16:22

www.4chan.pt.vu <- It is the best website in the world

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-22 15:39

Pointless language unless you area interested in learning something fairly unique.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-24 18:40

>117 Nice bumping a 3 year old thread.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-16 12:36

es

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-21 1:59

SPRUDRO SPÄRDE E/B/IN :DDDDD

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-21 1:59

SPRUDRO SPÄRDE E/B/IN :DDDDD

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