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What could this superpower really do?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 20:21

The ability to alter the value of pi (3.14159...) within a short radius around yourself.

I think I remember hearing something involving becoming invisible.

The thing is, considering the number of things in physics that involve the value of pi, this could be a power that has an incredible number of uses. Or it could be something that causes the superperson to be deleted from existance the first time they use the power.

Considering the number of things that could go wrong when using this power, the user would have to be some kind of physics expert.


Normally I'd go to /sci/ with this question, but I don't think that they'd be very interested in this.

Name: Anarchos 2008-12-21 0:47

This would enable division by zero.

Name: Anarchos 2008-12-21 0:47

This would enable division by zero.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 15:37

What would that radius be if you changed the value of pi?!?!?!?!


MIND ASPLODE!!

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 16:09

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Name: Anonymous 2009-02-17 9:45

I don't get how tinkering with something such as numbers would directly alter the world around you but then again I'm no good with physics or math.

Name: OP 2009-03-07 13:13

>>9
Well, one thing that you'd be able to do is alter gravity.

The Theory of universal Gravitation is:

Fg = G [(Mxm)/(r^2) ]    Where:

Fg is Force of Gravity,
G  is the gravitational constant (6.67 x 10^{-11}),
M  is the mass of the larger object,
m  is the mass of the smaller object, and
r  is the distance between the centers of the two objects.


The value of Pi is a ratio of a circle's circumfrence [C] to it's diameter [d] (which is two times the length of the radius [r]). We can use the value [2xr] to replace [C] in the equation.

This means that Pi = C/d = C/[2xr].


We can now isolate [r] like this:

Pi = C/[2xr]  →  Pix2xr = C  →  r = C/[2xPi]


This leaves us with a new equation we can use to replace [r] in the theory of universal gravitation. Lets use this information to turn this:

Fg = G [(Mxm)/(r^2)]

into this:

Fg = G [(Mxm)/([ C/[2xPi] ]^2)]



Essentially, because Pi is in the denominator of this equation, it can affect what the final answer is. If Pi is set to a really big number, then the division will result in a small number (Ex. 1/1000 = 0.001). If Pi is set to a small number, then the result will be bigger (Ex. 1/0.001 = 1000).



Does that make sense to you? Hopefully it wasn't too long. This is only High-School level physics so it shouldn't be too difficult. Anything that can be made to theoretically represent some aspect of Pi (either in radius, or circles, or a few other things I'm forgetting) can be changed if you change the value of Pi. Unless they cancel each other out, but that's a whole other can of worms that I won't go into here.


The main point is that I can imagine one or two ways to use this "superpower", but I know that there are lots of other uses. Since Pi is in so many aspects of physics, screwing with it would fuck things up alot, so I think I'd have to modify this power by saying that the Person can only use it in ways that they've already figured out, to prevent them from killing reality around them. So they can screw with gravity, but not become invisible until they figure out the math for that.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-07 14:36

The ability to alter the value of pi (3.14159...) within a short radius around yourself.


Would the radius around you be affected as well?

Name: OP 2009-03-15 15:32

>>18
Hmm... good point. I suppose a limitation would have to be added that you can only screw around with Pi in a specific area that you can understand. Otherwise this would probably lead the superperson using this power to erase themselves from existance the first time they it.

I was originally thinking of this as a power that would motivate the character to do some research in order to find out new ways they could use their power, instead of the normal comic book method.

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Name: Anonymous 2009-03-29 21:01

too many numbers!!!!! ahhhh *runs away and brain explodes*

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-29 21:01

too many numbers!!!!! ahhhh *runs away and brain explodes*

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-01 0:20

The ability to shrink or increase the radius. You could get darn close to 2d, for one thing. You could also always be right in math.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-03 15:56

didn't read the thread but altering pi, wouldn't change anything. Because the world is not based on numbers the numbers are based on the world. So, anything that involves pi would still use 3.14... to change shit you'd need to alter the laws governing the physical world not saying pi equals some other number lol anon does it backwards

Name: OP 2009-04-21 17:16

>>24
[...to change shit you'd need to alter the laws governing the physical world]

Notice that the thread title mentions the word "superpower". This is exactly the kind of thing that this superpower does.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-22 2:26

by altering pi nothing would happen as stated above the physical laws of the world do not depend on physical constant it is infact the other way around. the superpower that many people are describing is the power to warp the ratio between a circles radius and circumfrence

Name: r4y 2009-04-22 2:57

by altering pi nothing would happen as stated above the physical laws of the world do not depend on physical constant it is infact the other way around. the superpower that many people are describing is the power to warp the physical ratio between a circles radius and circumfrence not just its definition, hell if I know what that would look like but it would have serious effects on quantum physics

 for instance the first thing that comes to mind is heisenbergs uncerantie principal. by increasing pi you could then be arbitrarily certain of both a particles position and velocity making it theoretically possible to develop a super computer that can predict the future. or conversly by decreasing pi could potentially teleport

or even messing with debroglie wave lengths increasing and decreasing potential energy within a mass or even increasing the momentum of light (and inturn its velocity) and because highschool kinetics are derivations of kinetic/potential energy
and einstiens energy models include the ratio between velocity and the speed of light to describe those equations
ex
ke=1-[1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)]mc^2)

then all of your kinetic models can be altered to suit your needs

 also in electromagnetism the force between 2 particles depends on a constant 1/4pi{epsilon naught) so the force of attraction between particles could be increased/decreased magneto style


tl/dr

magneto/jean/dr x/superman ect all rolled into one

think dr. manhatton

Name: OP 2010-09-17 22:25

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>>7
>>17
>>19
Hmm... after looking into my old posts (specifically #17) I now kind of wish I had gone into university physics right after high school instead of doing other things.

I also wanted to say thanks alot, r4y (>>28), for a very interesting post.

Name: Anonymous 2010-09-19 21:43

30 GET!!!

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