Buy and handgun, and then pray that you'll never be in a situation where
1) You don't have time to reach down and pull it out
2) You enter an altercation in a location guns are not allowed
3) You enter an altercation where you don't want to end up shooting someone
4) You enter an altercation at a point in time when you don't have the gun on you
5) You have to pull your fat lazy ass off of the couch and do something that requires effort
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Anonymous2006-07-24 16:17
Sigh. Each poster lacks basic understanding of martial arts. Jeet Kune Do worked for Bruce Lee, it was his own personal style. Jeet Kune Do is more of a mental thing than a physical moveset, though it has suggestions for that too. There is no 'best fighting style'. Each style that exists was created by someone else for their own thoughts and body. In other words: they made it for them. Anything you learn you must alter in order to suit you. Design your own style, or in the end you are destined to lose. That is why Bruce Lee was so successful, he engineered his own style. My suggestion for doing this is to remember the basic structures of combat, grappling, ground fighting, punching, kicking, dodging, countering, deflecting, multiple enemies. I would suggest cannibalizing things from Krav Maga, Brazillian Jujitsu, read the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, Personally I like Taijutsu, though that's me. Just cannibalize other arts and make your own suited to yourself. Otherwise...
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Anonymous2006-07-25 17:34
I know, I just want to know more on various ones I can incorporate into my broader spectrum of stuff.
I generally agree, however I would warn you a bit on that mindset. While it is certainly true each person has to create their own personal best martial arts, that does not mean that picking up 3 or 4 styles right away is the best long-run path. There are many things that a style can teach you that require 4, 6, 10, or 15 years of practicing before the concepts can be understood. Someone who skips from one martial art to the next in an attempt to "soak up" as much as possible is going to miss out on many of these things.
Even Bruce Lee, who eventually found his own style, practiced under one single martial art for 17 years (or around there) before moving on to learn another and form the seeds of Jeet Kun Do (which he spent his whole life developing, up to his death). If you really, really want to make your 'perfect' style, you can't spend even a few years on a single martial art and expect to know enough to do so.
All in all, the advice I would give is:
If you don't want to devote a significant number of years to martial arts and just want to quickly learn a great way to defend yourself (and get into great shape), do what >>27 suggested and "cannibalize" everything you can.
If you want to follow in the footsteps of Bruce Lee or something some such and become your "perfect martial artist", find a single martial arts school and study under that for a handfull of years until you feel you understand all the concepts of motion underlying within the system. Then, wait another year or so to refine everything.
I would personally suggest finding a style that was pretty open minded and not caught up thinking that it is better than everything else. Then, maybe after 6 years, add on something a bit different on the side (grappling, weapons, kickboxing, whatever), and start to incorperate what you learn there into your primary style. Etc.
No matter what you are thinking of doing, I can say that by far the most important thing - far more important than style or anything else, by far, is to find a good instructor with a history in the martial art. Too many martial artists become instructors nowdays before they learn the depths of their systems, and their students are lacking because of it. Seriously, tour through several dozen schools, a good instructor will make all the difference.
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Anonymous2006-07-26 11:57
Track team. If they have a gun or knife, you should be running away. If it is a large group of people, you can run away. If it is one person who is more powerful than you, you can run away. No style is going to be able to help you in every situation if you choose to stay and fight.
PS
BJJ is overrated
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Anonymous2006-07-26 23:11
If you're in a more urgent situation, learning hand-to-had combat is simple and effective for average people. You can find some reading material on it and practice, or consider military training.
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Anonymous2006-07-27 12:56
I was in the military and they didn't teach shit. Hand to hand was a 6 hour demonstration that left no room for practice or repetition.
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Anonymous2006-07-27 19:14
Some private organization that teaches an equivelent to military hand to hand would be cool.
Or, you could train in a martial arts and get in good enough shape to still outrun most people, but also be able to defend yourself (better) against guns, suprise assaults, or in situations where you can't run. And also be able to defend people who are getting hurt, like your girlfriend who is being raped, or your brother who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you train in a martial arts, you SHOULD be running on your own time in any case.
Good point. It's just that when most people think of self defense, they forget that getting away from or avoiding a violent confrontation is more important than actually being able to fight. Another is that no amount of training in a controlled enviroment can prepare you for the realities of an attack on the street. It's next to impossible to do anything to protect yourself when faced with a gun, knife, or multiple attackers.
If you do want to train in some sort of martial art, it's best to train in something that incorporates alive training. The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills. The two cheapest and easiest to find styles that will do this are boxing and Judo.
Agreed. Although I would argue that even a stereotypical martial art that only has controlled environments to train in will help someone to defend themselves, but only if they are willing to put in the hours and hours of practice that is required to make the muscles respond by instinct. However, by far most people are not willing to do this, and chances are entering a regular martial art will hurt their fighting chances before it helps. These people should, as you said, join boxing or judo (or kickboxing, etc.) And yes, knowing how to avoid a fight is probably more important than any amount of skill in a martial art.
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Anonymous2006-08-15 0:55
hear Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Krav Maga are superior.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-13 14:54
Learn how to run fast. It's the most practical form of self defense.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 11:00 >>6
signed.
Hokuto Shinken is indeed the best martial art.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 13:57 >>41
Or, you could train in a martial arts and get in good enough shape to still outrun most people, but also be able to defend yourself (better) against guns, suprise assaults, or in situations where you can't run. And also be able to defend people who are getting hurt, like your girlfriend who is being raped, or your brother who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you train in a martial arts, you SHOULD be running on your own time in any case.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 15:01 >>43
Good point. It's just that when most people think of self defense, they forget that getting away from or avoiding a violent confrontation is more important than actually being able to fight. Another is that no amount of training in a controlled enviroment can prepare you for the realities of an attack on the street. It's next to impossible to do anything to protect yourself when faced with a gun, knife, or multiple attackers.
If you do want to train in some sort of martial art, it's best to train in something that incorporates alive training. The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills. The two cheapest and easiest to find styles that will do this are boxing and Judo.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 18:20 >>44
Agreed. Although I would argue that even a stereotypical martial art that only has controlled environments to train in will help someone to defend themselves, but only if they are willing to put in the hours and hours of practice that is required to make the muscles respond by instinct. However, by far most people are not willing to do this, and chances are entering a regular martial art will hurt their fighting chances before it helps. These people should, as you said, join boxing or judo (or kickboxing, etc.) And yes, knowing how to avoid a fight is probably more important than any amount of skill in a martial art.
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Anonymous2006-08-15 0:55
hear Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Krav Maga are superior.
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Read this thread from the beginning
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-13 14:54
Learn how to run fast. It's the most practical form of self defense.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 11:00 >>6
signed.
Hokuto Shinken is indeed the best martial art.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 13:57 >>41
Or, you could train in a martial arts and get in good enough shape to still outrun most people, but also be able to defend yourself (better) against guns, suprise assaults, or in situations where you can't run. And also be able to defend people who are getting hurt, like your girlfriend who is being raped, or your brother who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you train in a martial arts, you SHOULD be running on your own time in any case.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 15:01 >>43
Good point. It's just that when most people think of self defense, they forget that getting away from or avoiding a violent confrontation is more important than actually being able to fight. Another is that no amount of training in a controlled enviroment can prepare you for the realities of an attack on the street. It's next to impossible to do anything to protect yourself when faced with a gun, knife, or multiple attackers.
If you do want to train in some sort of martial art, it's best to train in something that incorporates alive training. The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills. The two cheapest and easiest to find styles that will do this are boxing and Judo.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 18:20 >>44
Agreed. Although I would argue that even a stereotypical martial art that only has controlled environments to train in will help someone to defend themselves, but only if they are willing to put in the hours and hours of practice that is required to make the muscles respond by instinct. However, by far most people are not willing to do this, and chances are entering a regular martial art will hurt their fighting chances before it helps. These people should, as you said, join boxing or judo (or kickboxing, etc.) And yes, knowing how to avoid a fight is probably more important than any amount of skill in a martial art.
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Anonymous2006-08-17 20:11
>>29
Sigh. Each style that exists was created by someone else for their own thoughts and body. In other words:
Sigh. Each poster lacks basic understanding of martial arts. Jeet Kune Do is more of a mental thing than a.
Sigh. Each style that when Zidane realized what he said, join boxing or 15 years until you feel you understand all the concepts of motion underlying within the system. Then, wait another year or 15 years of heart but they really wernt playing very good, i mean.
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Anonymous2006-08-17 20:20
>>6
do this are boxing and Judo. Agreed. Although I would give is: If you how the Koreans are not as ambitious as they need to be.
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Anonymous2006-08-17 20:23
>>15
>who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you are.
what >>27 suggested and "cannibalize" everything you can. If you want to follow in the respect theyve.
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Anonymous2006-08-17 20:26
in something that incorporates alive training. The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a story.
some people in their respective countries believe their country created the sport and it pretty much looked like.
to defend yourself (and get into great shape), do what >>27 suggested and "cannibalize" everything you can. If you want to follow in the footsteps of Bruce Lee or something some such and become your "perfect martial artist", find a single martial arts school and study under that for a handfull of years until you feel you understand.
>>28
you're forgetting that Italy won the depths of the WC. I'd say Brazil have got the best chance of winning, but it's incredibly stupid to say no one can beat them. Anything you learn you must alter in order to suit you. Design.
won the U21 euro championship in 1992, 1994, 1996, 2000, 2004.. Did you see how rigged the game was exciting as watching Paint Dry.
>Yeah, England has a strong attack and midfield with players like owen, rooney, lampard, beckham, gerrard & one of the best defence in the world cup and did anyone watch i think in canada i agree with poster #3 like come on no one can beat Ronaldo, he be given a rest. M�xico could be the big surprise. Afterall they won the u-17 cup against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills. The two cheapest and easiest.
goal and even some big ones like Brazil and Argentina in the first round. For every Kewell & Bresciano there is a Ronadinho & Bresciano don't know the sport. The vote was played fine against some big lucks Also you must remember that many of the players for England. He got pulled off at Half-Time against Uruguay because.
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Anonymous2006-08-30 15:14
Vale Tudo.
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Zevi2006-08-31 22:03
Don't fret yourself over whatever style you do. Train in a realistic manner and you will most certainly do better than if you practice dead patterns and techniques with no resistance. Styles that such training is common are BJJ, Judo, Muaythai, Kyokushin and Enshin ryu, Kali and various FMAs San Shou and most wrestling styles.
If you want to train for sport combat or self defense you should emphasies physical strength and conditiong and you should train against resisting partners. If you just want to learn nifty forms or get in shape it matters slightly less. Just dont fool yourself into thinking you can fight when you train with the "we're too deadly to spar mentality"
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Anonymous2006-09-06 5:07
The best self-defence is buying a gun or a large blunt object.
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Anonymous2006-09-06 21:53
The best self-defense is not being there in the first place.
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Anonymous2006-09-07 21:20
Anyone who did not say Krav Maga fails. Krav Maga works amazingly against all kinds of martial arts, especially people with no training except maybe football and wrestling in high school. You can learn it in about three weeks, and have the power to kick ass. Study it for a year, you have the power to kill. Three years, you're level 5, and you have the power to kill instantly and teach others to kill.
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Anonymous2006-09-08 23:04
Did you know that cheese comes in a bouqette of many different flavors?
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Anonymous2006-09-10 7:21
Hokuto Shinken, but because you're not no-one is manly enough don't bother with martial arts and get a fucking gun.
next time you go about arguing your point over the internet, I suggest you don't just spout off what you heard some idiot like you saying. Sure we hear a lot about Krav Maga, but most people are retarded, and you have proven yourself no exception.
When it comes down to it, Krav Maga just doesn't hold up against just about any other fighting art. You can say it rocks all you want, but Krav Maga practitioners are still getting their ass kicked on a regular basis.
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Anonymous2006-09-23 20:08
Vovinam
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Anonymous2006-09-25 15:21
kagebunshin no jutsu
hiten mitsuruji
roshi kame kempo
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Anonymous2006-10-06 0:30
there is no "best" martial art, though there are some fake/useless ones. it also depends on why you would be taking it.. if you want it for competetive purposes then the effectivness in a real fight would be lower then a MA designed specifically for a real fight. for instance, jiu-jitsu is good a one, in a ring. on the street, chances are the guy will be armed and will have friends to back him up, so if you take the one down and keep him down, his buddies will be able to get all over you. no MA is without flaws though, so find one you find which best fits with your body type and needs for taking it, rather then generalizing them all.
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Anonymous2006-10-06 2:06
>>63
kagebunshin no jutsu
hiten mitsuruji
roshi kame kempo
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Anonymous2006-10-07 23:56
THANKS!
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Anonymous2006-10-13 18:13
Nothing wrong with good ol' judo.
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Anonymous2006-10-27 0:56
judo is good, you learn how to fall without getting hurt, and it's more likely you'll fall than get in a fight, it's rough, easy to find and usually not that expensive and now, because of UFC submissions are emphasised in a lot of Judo places.
I prefer the Scottish/Gaelic martial art, where I have fought 238 fights vs various other disciplines, winning 237 and retiring from one due to being too drunk. It is called Youhaudimaheederum.
Just make sure you do some sparring. That way you know what will work against someone trying to stop you. Also you will be fitter than style with just forms.
multiple attackers...street situation.. are grouped together for thier own support, if you dont think youll make it, immediately accept that,, but make known to them that one of them will be run through(fk'ed up). the realization in their head may be be enough to make them move on elsewhere.
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Anonymous2006-12-13 16:08
i hear chuck liddell is the most effective system of combat
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Anonymous2006-12-20 10:17
Boxing is the best. Why bother learning how to do all that jackie chan shit when you won't be able to use any of it in a tight situation, unless you are actually jackie chan himself.
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Anonymous2006-12-20 16:00
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Anonymous2006-12-29 6:45
Against multiple attackers, in a street situation who are grouped together for support.
Your best bet is to start your own gang. This won't be easy, so you should start with a pack of young impressionable trouble makers. Look for kids around your neighborhood that like to skip school to tip over trashcans and steal mail. Once you find them, provide them with the nessecary drugs and alcohol and work them up to increasingly anti-social behavior. Inevitably one or more of them will be sent anyway to some sort of juvenile facility. When they get back after the summer, take him/them aside and turn them on the idea of narcotics trafficking. After all you're going to need money for your protection.
Secure start-up product and set your acolytes to dealing your white powder of protection in their school. Along the way make sure you insist that they rough up anyone who crosses their path. The next step is to begin recruiting and escalating. You don't need any local small-time petty drug dealers covering your back. You want killers. So make the Johnny-come-latelys commitan act of violence on someone before they can join. This will in turn pressure the old-timers to up their own personal ante for violence.
By now they should be nearing the end of high school at an age ripe for the atrociously anti-social behaviour which serves as the cornerstone of todays pop culture. You can cash in by having them take the money they haven't blown on legal fees, recreational drugs, and expensive cars and jewel and invest in some high quality firearms. The smaller/cheaper the better. 100 guys firing once is better than one guy firing 100 times. There's more targets that way.
Congratulations with your small army behind you, you can walk the streets secure in the knowledge that you have the best possible personal protection. A violent, well-armed, drug dealing street gang.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 16:11
There is no best Martial Arts.
It all matter on how good you are personally.
but for training purpose, a combined style of
striking and grappling is good.
Most practical and fastest styles to learn are
Muay Thai and Submission Grappling.
everthing else takes too long to learn it good.
For self defense, I recommend 100 meter dash. It's also quite cheap to practice, you'll save a lot of money on bullshit teachers. If you also want to look cool try Le Parkour.
If instead of self defense you want to learn to fight I'd try boxing. It normally goes straight to the point, put an emphasis on getting in shape and you won'twaste time bowing to the photo of some old dead japanese dude.