What is the best martial art/self-defense?

I hear Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Krav Maga are superior.

Learn how to run fast.  It's the most practical form of self defense.

>>6
signed.

Hokuto Shinken is indeed the best martial art.

>>41

Or, you could train in a martial arts and get in good enough shape to still outrun most people, but also be able to defend yourself (better) against guns, suprise assaults, or in situations where you can't run. And also be able to defend people who are getting hurt, like your girlfriend who is being raped, or your brother who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you train in a martial arts, you SHOULD be running on your own time in any case.

>>43

Good point.  It's just that when most people think of self defense, they forget that getting away from or avoiding a violent confrontation is more important than actually being able to fight.  Another is that no amount of training in a controlled enviroment can prepare you for the realities of an attack on the street.  It's next to impossible to do anything to protect yourself when faced with a gun, knife, or multiple attackers.

If you do want to train in some sort of martial art, it's best to train in something that incorporates alive training.  The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills.  The two cheapest and easiest to find styles that will do this are boxing and Judo.

>>44

Agreed. Although I would argue that even a stereotypical martial art that only has controlled environments to train in will help someone to defend themselves, but only if they are willing to put in the hours and hours of practice that is required to make the muscles respond by instinct. However, by far most people are not willing to do this, and chances are entering a regular martial art will hurt their fighting chances before it helps. These people should, as you said, join boxing or judo (or kickboxing, etc.) And yes, knowing how to avoid a fight is probably more important than any amount of skill in a martial art.

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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-13 14:54
Learn how to run fast.  It's the most practical form of self defense.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 11:00
>>6
signed.

Hokuto Shinken is indeed the best martial art.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 13:57
>>41

Or, you could train in a martial arts and get in good enough shape to still outrun most people, but also be able to defend yourself (better) against guns, suprise assaults, or in situations where you can't run. And also be able to defend people who are getting hurt, like your girlfriend who is being raped, or your brother who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you train in a martial arts, you SHOULD be running on your own time in any case.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 15:01
>>43

Good point.  It's just that when most people think of self defense, they forget that getting away from or avoiding a violent confrontation is more important than actually being able to fight.  Another is that no amount of training in a controlled enviroment can prepare you for the realities of an attack on the street.  It's next to impossible to do anything to protect yourself when faced with a gun, knife, or multiple attackers.

If you do want to train in some sort of martial art, it's best to train in something that incorporates alive training.  The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills.  The two cheapest and easiest to find styles that will do this are boxing and Judo.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 18:20
>>44

Agreed. Although I would argue that even a stereotypical martial art that only has controlled environments to train in will help someone to defend themselves, but only if they are willing to put in the hours and hours of practice that is required to make the muscles respond by instinct. However, by far most people are not willing to do this, and chances are entering a regular martial art will hurt their fighting chances before it helps. These people should, as you said, join boxing or judo (or kickboxing, etc.) And yes, knowing how to avoid a fight is probably more important than any amount of skill in a martial art.

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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-13 14:54
Learn how to run fast.  It's the most practical form of self defense.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 11:00
>>6
signed.

Hokuto Shinken is indeed the best martial art.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 13:57
>>41

Or, you could train in a martial arts and get in good enough shape to still outrun most people, but also be able to defend yourself (better) against guns, suprise assaults, or in situations where you can't run. And also be able to defend people who are getting hurt, like your girlfriend who is being raped, or your brother who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you train in a martial arts, you SHOULD be running on your own time in any case.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 15:01
>>43

Good point.  It's just that when most people think of self defense, they forget that getting away from or avoiding a violent confrontation is more important than actually being able to fight.  Another is that no amount of training in a controlled enviroment can prepare you for the realities of an attack on the street.  It's next to impossible to do anything to protect yourself when faced with a gun, knife, or multiple attackers.

If you do want to train in some sort of martial art, it's best to train in something that incorporates alive training.  The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills.  The two cheapest and easiest to find styles that will do this are boxing and Judo.
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Name: Anonymous @ 2006-08-14 18:20
>>44

Agreed. Although I would argue that even a stereotypical martial art that only has controlled environments to train in will help someone to defend themselves, but only if they are willing to put in the hours and hours of practice that is required to make the muscles respond by instinct. However, by far most people are not willing to do this, and chances are entering a regular martial art will hurt their fighting chances before it helps. These people should, as you said, join boxing or judo (or kickboxing, etc.) And yes, knowing how to avoid a fight is probably more important than any amount of skill in a martial art.

>>29
Sigh. Each style that exists was created by someone else for their own thoughts and body. In other words:

Sigh. Each poster lacks basic understanding of martial arts. Jeet Kune Do is more of a mental thing than a.

Sigh. Each style that when Zidane realized what he said, join boxing or 15 years until you feel you understand all the concepts of motion underlying within the system. Then, wait another year or 15 years of heart but they really wernt playing very good, i mean.

>>6
do this are boxing and Judo. Agreed. Although I would give is: If you how the Koreans are not as ambitious as they need to be.

>>15
>who is being mugged, or friend being beaten up. Besides, if you are.

what >>27 suggested and "cannibalize" everything you can. If you want to follow in the respect theyve.

in something that incorporates alive training. The alive aspect will teach you how to apply your techniques against a story.

some people in their respective countries believe their country created the sport and it pretty much looked like.

to defend yourself (and get into great shape), do what >>27 suggested and "cannibalize" everything you can. If you want to follow in the footsteps of Bruce Lee or something some such and become your "perfect martial artist", find a single martial arts school and study under that for a handfull of years until you feel you understand.

>>28
you're forgetting that Italy won the depths of the WC. I'd say Brazil have got the best chance of winning, but it's incredibly stupid to say no one can beat them. Anything you learn you must alter in order to suit you. Design.

won the U21 euro championship in 1992, 1994, 1996, 2000, 2004.. Did you see how rigged the game was exciting as watching Paint Dry.

>Yeah, England has a strong attack and midfield with players like owen, rooney, lampard, beckham, gerrard & one of the best defence in the world cup and did anyone watch i think in canada i agree with poster #3 like come on no one can beat Ronaldo, he be given a rest. M�xico could be the big surprise. Afterall they won the u-17 cup against a resisting opponent, which you won't get from doing only kata or drills. The two cheapest and easiest.

goal and even some big ones like Brazil and Argentina in the first round. For every Kewell & Bresciano there is a Ronadinho & Bresciano don't know the sport. The vote was played fine against some big lucks Also you must remember that many of the players for England. He got pulled off at Half-Time against Uruguay because.

Vale Tudo.

Don't fret yourself over whatever style you do. Train in a realistic manner and you will most certainly do better than if you practice dead patterns and techniques with no resistance. Styles that such training is common are BJJ, Judo, Muaythai, Kyokushin and Enshin ryu, Kali and various FMAs San Shou and most wrestling styles.
If you want to train for sport combat or self defense you should emphasies physical strength and conditiong and you should train against resisting partners. If you just want to learn nifty forms or get in shape it matters slightly less. Just dont fool yourself into thinking you can fight when you train with the "we're too deadly to spar mentality"

The best self-defence is buying a gun or a large blunt object.

The best self-defense is not being there in the first place.

Anyone who did not say Krav Maga fails. Krav Maga works amazingly against all kinds of martial arts, especially people with no training except maybe football and wrestling in high school. You can learn it in about three weeks, and have the power to kick ass. Study it for a year, you have the power to kill. Three years, you're level 5, and you have the power to kill instantly and teach others to kill.

Did you know that cheese comes in a bouqette of many different flavors?

Hokuto Shinken, but because you're not no-one is manly enough don't bother with martial arts and get a fucking gun.

>>56


next time you go about arguing your point over the internet, I suggest you don't just spout off what you heard some idiot like you saying. Sure we hear a lot about Krav Maga, but most people are retarded, and you have proven yourself no exception.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7107762519414136368&q=krav+maga&hl=en

When it comes down to it, Krav Maga just doesn't hold up against just about any other fighting art. You can say it rocks all you want, but Krav Maga practitioners are still getting their ass kicked on a regular basis.

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Vovinam

kagebunshin no jutsu
hiten mitsuruji
roshi kame kempo

there is no "best" martial art, though there are some fake/useless ones.  it also depends on why you would be taking it.. if you want it for competetive purposes then the effectivness in a real fight would be lower then a MA designed specifically for a real fight.  for instance, jiu-jitsu is good a one, in a ring.  on the street, chances are the guy will be armed and will have friends to back him up, so if you take the one down and keep him down, his buddies will be able to get all over you.  no MA is without flaws though, so find one you find which best fits with your body type and needs for taking it, rather then generalizing them all.

>>63
kagebunshin no jutsu
hiten mitsuruji
roshi kame kempo

THANKS!

Nothing wrong with good ol' judo.

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judo is good, you learn how to fall without getting hurt, and it's more likely you'll fall than get in a fight, it's rough, easy to find and usually not that expensive and now, because of UFC submissions are emphasised in a lot of Judo places.

Shotokan Karate

I prefer the Scottish/Gaelic martial art, where I have fought 238 fights vs various other disciplines, winning 237 and retiring from one due to being too drunk. It is called Youhaudimaheederum.

>>70
hahahahhaha
GTFO FUCKING FAGGOT

>>70
O RLY? WOW

Just make sure you do some sparring.  That way you know what will work against someone trying to stop you.  Also you will be fitter than style with just forms.

>>73
hahahahhaha
GTFO FUCKING FAGGOT

foxy boxing

>>75
gomu gomu no pistol
gomu gomu no bazooka
gomu gomu no fusen
gomu gomu no gatoring
gomu gomu no AXE
gomu gomu no BAKA

>>1
just kill yourself

multiple attackers...street situation.. are grouped together for thier own support, if you dont think youll make it, immediately accept that,, but make known to them that one of them will be run through(fk'ed up). the realization in their head may be be enough to make them move on elsewhere.

i hear chuck liddell is the most effective system of combat

Boxing is the best. Why bother learning how to do all that jackie chan shit when you won't be able to use any of it in a tight situation, unless you are actually jackie chan himself.