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Name: Anonymous 2009-09-07 22:23

Took my first practice today.  590 Verbal/800 Math.

HOW COULD I HAVE GOTTEN DUMBER SINCE THE SAT??  I swear I didn't recognize 25% of the words on there. >_>

Anyway, nothing to see here...

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-07 23:03

LOL, standardized testing. What a waste of time and money.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-08 12:46

>>3
What do you suggest using as a comparable metric when looking at how the level of education changes as time progresses, and for setting defined and reachable goals for the education system?
Or do you propose that we don't? Just let the system run headless in whatever direction it happens to go, and judge past success and take future action based purely on gut feeling with no objective data to rely on?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-09 8:40

Standardized tests can't measure initiative, creativity, imagination, conceptual thinking, curiosity, effort, irony, judgment, commitment, nuance, good will, ethical reflection, or a host of other valuable dispositions and attributes. What they can measure and count are isolated skills, specific facts and function, content knowledge, the least interesting and least significant aspects of learning.
-- Bill Ayers

>>4
a comparable metric when looking at how the level of education changes as time progresses
Because we can really tell that when every state is taking different tests that undergo major changes every few years, amirite?

setting defined and reachable goals for the education system
The culture of teaching from a test is the worst thing to happen to public education EVER. Standardized tests are, perhaps, a useful tool, but their overuse is resulting in generations of mentally crippled people.

For example: how were you taught critical thinking skills and the basics of logic? I wasn't. Such things weren't on any of the tests. Everything labeled "critical thinking" in all my old curriculae turned out to just be word problems and reading comprehension. I turned out somewhat sane simply because I grew up relying on my mistrust of other people to not blindly listen to anything they said. I learned about the Burden of Proof on my own, long after high school. I didn't even have a real understanding of the Scientific Method until college. Instead, my public education was focused on cramming useless factoids into my skull, the VAST majority of which has long since been forgotten.

Can you imagine what an entire generation of people who were never taught how to think rationally would look like? Oh wait, all you have to do is look at modern America.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-09 21:27

how were you taught critical thinking skills and the basics of logic? I wasn't. Such things weren't on any of the tests.

No, but you would need those things to do well on tests. And there are sometimes critical thinking or "theory of knowledge" classes. Not that most students take them seriously.

Anyway what you're taught in high school doesn't matter. Those useless factoids are crammed into your skull only so you'll have practice and skill at cramming less useless factoids in during college.

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