god's absence proven

# non existent > # existent
therefore the greatest entity should be non existent which is god.

How did you arrive at the conclusion that non-existent > existent

>>2
all existing things once were non existent, so the arsenal of absence holds infinitely larger potential than existence, existence is limited, absence is infinite

>>3
All existing things used to exist in a different form due to the conservation of mass and energy. By the same priciples things that exist now will cease to exist in the future. Therefore, non-existent=existent.

How about just Occam's Razor?

How about a nice hot cup of I don't give a rat's ass.
Fine, so you don't believe their's a god, big fucking deal; get over yourself mr. god-complex...oh wait, god doesn't exist therefore...that would make you...what? :)

Oh, isn't the accused supposed to be allowed to confront his accuser? Step up OP! Present thyself before man and God. No? You'd rather remain anonymous? Okay...guess the burden of proof is on the accuser once again and the evidence is still lacking...especially in grammar, rhetoric, and of course logic as with most asinine nonsensical arguments I've come across here on 4chan. Please try harder, you are succeeding at providing us with clear and present evidence of your idiocy. Do continue. :)

>>4
That is not so according to scriptures which is important for the refutation

>>7
>>8
Get out.

You act like the limited human perception of time and space and our little scientific and mathematical formulas have the final say on "reality". So untrue.

>>10
...and to support you; "not everything known is real; not everything real is known."
:)
Science is only oh-so-many steps along an untraveled path mapping it's way along as it goes. The problem with science? "When the ground doesn't match the map; change the map." Sometimes things change and science has to move to compensate for the change. Science is only a mathematical mapping system; nothing more. To give it more meaning than this is to idolize it beyond itself. Much like hovering around a computer which is only an over-glorified calculator. And if this statement makes you upset, you may want to re-evaluate your priorities.

>>10
This was exactly the answer i was hoping to see, i already considered this but just wanted to check how much of you have thought that far. I agree with you and actually would like to chat with you further to discuss few things.
>>11
I don't think you understand him. You are not really open about every possibility.

>>12
Ah, so you've already judged me, then. Gee thanks.
Well, that's okay, I forgive you. Well, the way I see it, what I know isn't everything, but knowing that means I can take the next step and begin interacting, researching and investigating things all for myself. Afterall, "for now we know in part; then we shall know fully just as I have been fully known." :)
Open-minded about possibilities is a choice just as closed-minded about possibilities is a choice. And what possibilities are there? Beneficial? Detrimental? To whom? And what logical arguments support proceeding? What we know? What we learn? What is discovered? HMMM...so many questions to which I KNOW no answers, but assumptions I have a plenty...why not start with what I know to find out what I don't know....if one so chooses. :)

And if you don't see for yourself the open-mindedness of my arguments, "Not everything known is real; not everything real is known." actually implies that there is a movement that must be made in order to satisfy something inside of us. What that is or might be...of that I am uncertain, but because I know that I am uncertain, I know and am comforted by that knowledge. :)
But what do you think?

Um...and one more thing...everything is important so why not treat it equally giving each equal amount of time, money, attention, communication, cooperation, etc? If you pay too much attention to what exists, are you able to see what doesn't exist? And if you only see what doesn't exist are you able to see what does? Attention has a funny way of singling things out when one thing becomes more important than something else. But than again, it depends if you're open to this concept and are able to see the truth of it before you prove it for yourself otherwise. Afterall, I wouldn't want to make it easy on you now, would I? How could you learn and grow without a challenge to overcome? To push through the obstacles towards an unknown destination...perhaps? What is it you are really looking for in your life? Me? How the hell do I ______ for fuck's sake? :P
Well, it's up to you what you want to do.
All I know is this: If you see someone making a mistake; 1) see all that is wrong with what that person is doing and the implications that holds and how it affects other people and yourself emotionally, 2) Turn this back onto yourself and seek the answer to correct this in your own life and accept and affirm that people make mistakes cause we're human.
What logic supports this?
Who can you change in this world? Yourself, and the world will follow.
Whose life will be greatly impacted by your choice? You, then everyone else.
And after all this is through you will understand these sayings:
"A fool learns from his own mistakes; a wise man learns from the mistakes of others."
"Change yourself and you change the world."

The only thing standing between you and this happening are four things;
1) Do you believe this is can happen?
2) Is this a possibility in your mind?
3) Do you feel as though you don't want to do this?
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4) To do or not to do; this is your question, this is your choice.

And no matter what your decision; you will decide, even if it is "to not choose."

Welcome to planet Earth.

And for OP's post title; "Absence" denotes a lack of presence. However, if we know of the word "God" isn't "God" present in our thoughts and through our thoughts come our actions? Hmmmm.....

>>15
And if in the present moment we are introverting (paying attention, aware) to our thoughts...isn't "God" in our presence?

...interesting semantics, amirite?

Hey guys, I'm thinking of Superman. That means he's real!

..Fuckken retards. Saging a top thread.

Forgot this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_%28fallacy%29

What does
God mean?

>>17
>>18
Congratulations, you just took for granted your own imagination.
btw, ITT.

>>20
"Generally Observed Deity"

>>21
1) Taking for granted the ability to learn. (Do you think you know all there is to be known?)
2) Taking for granted the ability to imagine. (Do you expect everyone to be anxious and awkward about what they don't know all the time?)
3) Taking for granted the ability to be wrong. (Do you think you are always right?)
4) Taking for granted the ability to be aware of being rigid. (Do you think you are perfect and make no error?)
5) Taking for granted the ability to be aware of what you are feeling at the moment. (Do you think you are beyond the human condition?)

C'mon, use some logic here.
If you aren't aware of how you feel at this moment, isn't that self-(ignor)ance?
If you are in despair about a situation with your girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse/(child)ren/etc, are you being appreciative of their existence and your ability to have that experience with them? Or are you ignoring them just as much as you ignore yourself. Oh, don't go blaming me, though that would be the easy way out and a moniker of your own habitual past. The question isn't WHO IS to blame? It's WHO IS the blame being shifted FROM?
Get it?
And I am no exception to that rule; nobody is.

Op knows that Schrodinger's cat is absent inside the box he hasn't seen inside of yet.

>>23
This.

I'm not saying I believe in any omnipotent being, just that OP's logic is HORRIBLY flawed.

>>24
OP got his logic outta cracka jack box. :3

OP hasn't even addressed the existence of judgments/comparisons/generalizations/stereotypes probably because saying one thing is greater than another is a form of judgment.

Three important ways to tell if someone is self-victimizing is;
1) They complain about their situation.
2) They blame others for their situation (when convenient).
3) They justify to others about their situation.
Notice what is common throughout? "Their Situation."

Everything is important in our existence even what we are not as of yet able to perceive or comprehend; some things just happen to be urgent for the moment and that is what blinds us from what is possible and what is only to leave us with what was missed, what is regrettable, and what is abandoned.
btw, hate = ignoring, neglecting, abandoning, and forgetting.
We all have a natural knack for each, it is negating them with our choices that defines who we are, it is acting these out that reveals our truest nature. You cannot become good without being evil; you must be evil in order to strive for good. If you believe you ARE good you will find yourself wanting, depressed, lacking direction, and find yourself doing what you know in your heart you ought not do. Why does this happen? If you are good like being rich; there is no need to go out and earn money...catch my drift?

If we allow for that which doesn't exist to exist, when it comes into existence or at least we become aware of said existence, there will be no, "HOLY SHIT! He IS REAL!!! Ohmyomyomyomyom..." At some level we as a human race want to have a say in what changes in our agreed-upon perceivable realm. It is this attachment to NOT having a say about that which is NOT US that truly blinds us to HAVING a say about that which IS US. The change that other people would ask you to do is to make up your own damn minds; not do as they say not as they do. That is your own bullshit interpretation which you blindly believe and worship with angry rants and taunts and blame and games projected towards others...if you are that type of person, equally, you must at least accept that the possibility exists within you and that if you are not currently or have or will be doing such things that you are making the choice to NOT do them. Open circuit, bitches.
If you are like me, you understand this to be true, if you are not like me, you merely may accept what I say is true and find out HOW I am true so that you may find answers to your own questions from within yourself.

When you feel yourself in pain or fear and you want to leave because of how you feel; this is precisely the reason you should stay and find out why. Why do you want your internal emotions to return to a balance point? Why not accept and allow for emotional changes to ebb and flow throughout regardless and simply feel. :3
I'm just saying it's a possibility; you don't have to if you don't want to. It's all your choice anyway.
What am I going to do? Reach through your monitor telepathically and make your body move in mysterious ways? Not a chance! I'm not wasting my telepathy on someone who doesn't want to do what they need to in order to accomplish their dreams anyway.
If they want a decadent lifestyle; our society allows for that choice...so that we too may maintain our devotion and commitment through the choices we make. That is our integrity, that is our honor, that is our courage; that which can never be taken away, ever. :3
But let them try; they make boring times a little more enjoyable. :P