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Equation

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-01 19:04

PLEASE, /sci/, I need your help!

Here's the equation:
8*3^{x+\sqrt{x}}=9^x-9^{\sqrt{x}+1}

I can't solve it. I tried many things, but I fail every single time. I know the answer (which Mathematica/Wolfram|Alpha gave me) but that's not what I want.
What I need is a step-by-step solution or some good hints.

I'll be very glad if you help me out.
Thanks in advance.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-01 19:05

Damn, forgot about the brackets.

8*3^{x+\sqrt{x}}=9^x-9^{\sqrt{x}+1}

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-01 23:12

Write \alpha = 3^x and \beta = 3^{\sqrt{x}}.  Then the equation is

8\alpha \beta = \alpha^2 -9\beta^2
0= \alpha^2 -8\alpha \beta-9\beta^2
0= (\alpha - 9\beta)(\alpha +\beta)

So 3^x = 9\cdot 3^\sqrt{x} or 3^x = - 3^\sqrt{x}.  These should be easy to solve with logarithms and such.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 6:46

3^x = -3^sqrt{x}
Well this equation has no solutions, hasn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 6:47

I meant 3^x = -3^/sqrt{x} ...

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 6:52

I can't get used to this TeX :P

3^x = -3^\sqrt{x}

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 10:39

Protip: use mathbin.net to preview your TeX shit.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 15:30

Protip: Spambomb moot until he gets his lazy ass together and puts in a Delete feature on the textboards. :/

>>6
Sure it does.

\log 3^x = \log -3^{\sqrt{x}}
x = \log {-1} + \sqrt{x}  + 2\pi i n
\sqrt{x}^2 - \sqrt{x} - (2n+1) \pi i = 0
\sqrt{x} = \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1+4(2n+1)\pi i}}{2}
x = \left[\frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1+4(2n+1)\pi i}}{2}\right]^2

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 16:17

>>8
Hmm.. That's something I don't understand yet. How did you get the second line?
And is it actually possible to logarithm a negative number?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 19:00

>>9
The "-" signs in the first 2 lines are negative signs, not subtraction.

And you can do logs of negative numbers, but you have to use complex numbers.  Also, there's more than one logarithm for any number.  So the logarithms of 1 are 2\pi i n for any integer n, since e^{2\pi in} = 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_logarithm

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-02 19:25


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