to redcream

redcream i need your help, basically im gathering all your material against religion good or deity's
and puting all together, in some form of notes
to debate this monday against some religious in a local tv channel, im asking permission to use your notes, y/n?

Protip: Look at Bill O'Reilly on how to win debates. Yell better.

>>1
Permission granted.

Post all his material somewhere, I want it too.

>>4

Second.

Thirded.
Would make for a good read.

rationalresponders.com

skepticsannotatedbible.com

www.infidelguy.com

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>>9
Give me specific pages. I /r/ Mongoloid arguments to match their Mongoloid arguments, like why are there polar bears on Noah's ark and so on.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAmazingAtheist /thread

>>10
You're gonna get owned. Listen to me if you want to win and not get humiliated.
Once my parents put me in a church group. It was a horrible experience, but I got one lesson: Reality is different than what idiots on the internets would like you to belive, many religious people(including the guy that commanded the group I was in and many very religious people I know) belive that many things in the bible(for example Genesis and Noah's ark) to be simply metaphors and belive that also many of the things accounted as miracles actually have scientifical explanations(for example the plagues Moses "cast"). Of course they don't belive everything there is simply metaphoric or explainable, and obviously you don't know if you're certainly against someone with these more rational views, which would get you owned in less than a second, or some idiot and you also don't know the degree of rationality they have, also, don't be swayed by people that are fiercelly anti-religion (most people that go far enough to make websites, youtube profiles and publish books, these people are biased against religion, much the same way most relious people are biased in favor, so most of the time they don't know shit), use serious philosophical arguments, as long they're not shity, heck even that Epicurus quote people uses here in 4chan all the time should kick a fair ammount of ass(unless of course he knows enough philosophy and thus will be able to use Epicurus' own arguments to counter  yours in a way that you will leave the debate wearing your ass as a hat), so use serious phylosophy and and study it hard, do this correctly and you'll win(and probably sway a few people to your side).
tl;dr go back and read it motherfucker

>>12
Yeh, whatever.  Remember, we are surrounded by these religitards, and they can metaphorize all the crap they want ... in the final analysis, it's still CRAP since they have not one iota of evidence for this divine entity they seem to so firmly believe exists.

The real humiliation here is that the religifucks have been given a blank check that they could cash anytime they wanted ... and they've done so frequently.  As a result, they continue to insist that their fantastical and frankly WRONG view of reality is correct.  They are amongst the most intellectually lazy people on earth.  Those of us who know better can give those lazy fuckos a shellacking like they've never before seen.  Humiliation?  Take me along, and you'll see me deal out more humiliation to these religifags than a Human being has ever taken.  EVER.

/r/ notes.

>>13
So? Faith is based entirelly on beliving without evidence. If there was proof they wouldn't belive, they would know. Wether this is an interesting philosophy or just a nice trick is up to each one.

Most religious people don't go preaching to infidels, excluding my family no one ever tried this with me, the same way I never did this to others. See espiritism, that thing, in my opinion, is downright ridiculous and with holes big enough you could throw a cow through them and yet I never pointed them to anyone that follows the religion and I don't belive I ever will.

Wether you want it or not, religions might have a lot of bulshit, but they still have good points, specially if teachings are not taken literally. The problem is that many teachings are only aparent to people with the proper knowledge(whcich aren't many). I am not saying I belive or agree with these teachings or that in fact they fit with the rest(many religious teachings won't lose their value if you stop following a religion or beliving in god) , just that many religions are not the cesspool of idiocy you belive(even if many(and sometimes the most vocal) of their followers are idiots).
The existence of god is not a subject to be discussed here lightly, mainly because the same way there is no evidence of its existence  there isn't evidence against it, of course in these cases you assume something doesn't exist, but the possibility of its existence isn't ruled out. This is why I told the op to use philosophy, most religions are not based on wether god exists, as religions assume he does, but on god's opinions, and as I said there are good teachings on some religions, but usually they have many more rotten ones, the ones the op should go for.

The simple fact you call them religifags and want to humiliate them basically shows that writing all this was pretty pointless as I won't change your bias.
tl;dr: temperance

So? Faith is based entirelly on beliving without evidence.

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE STUPID. END OF ARGUMENT.

>>16
Evidence for atheism as opposed to deism. MAJOR FAIL.

>>17
Atheism lack of a belief,Doesn't believe you think hes not there, can be agnostic atheist, agnostic to a diest god but as hes not involved in your life, you have seen no evidence for him therefore he may exist much as the tooth fairy or flying reindeer could, but without proof there isnt much reason to think one does

While I probably missed half your points even after reading it twice, atheism being a lack of a belief is just semantics.

Atheism = lack of belief in non-atheism = belief in atheism
Christianity = lack of belief in non-Christianity = belief in Christianity
Same with deism.

No matter how much you twist it.

Ockham's razor, argument from ignorance, all the usual debate tactics work both ways with atheism and deism.

>>15
If you believe something without the use of evidence, then you've no right to ever bring those beliefs into any rational forum.  You've no right to bring them into schools, courts, and the like.

Anyone who relies on fantasies, should be shunned by rational folks.  You can believe whatever you wish, but once you admit you don't have evidence for that belief, you must be dismissed.

RedCream you rock!!!!!!!!!!

>>20
redcream are you married? if not
i want to have your kids and marry you ;')

>>18
And, dude, wtf. Learn to type before you start to argue retardedly.
>>19
God you both suck.
>Atheism = lack of belief in non-atheism = belief in atheism
That only works if atheism is a religious belief. Because if it isn't, the latter statement is wrong. You're begging the question.

>>23 sorry, you're floating away in hippy-land.
Atheists are not religious, atheiesm is not a religion. If you do a quick search for the definition of the word in question before posting BS it would help.

First result on google define:
"a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny"
 So umm sorry, this clearly doesn't overlap anywhere with atheists beliefs.

redcream i need your help, i only create a thread by most every 2 or 3 days but now it says
Please post threads less often!
wtf? please help !

Clear all your cockies with ccleaner

God bless you RedCream.

>>24
Atheistic religions exist, idiot.  Buddhism pl0x.

RedCream won the thread.  Give up.

>>24
I agree with you. Read what I said. I was saying that the argument that atheism is a belief only works if it is a belief.

>>28
The fact that atheistic religions exist shows that the terms are independent, and thus atheism isn't a religion.

Let's make this thread useful and try to figure out code:

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P.S. Mercury, you are incorrect quite a lot.

remember when argueing with christians NEVER say jesus didnt exist.  there is TONS of proof that a guy "named" jeusus was indeed born in that town from the bibble. keep it to things about what he did being bullshit but whatever you do dont say a guy named jesus never existed

>>15
Modern society has already evolved to a state such that religion is no longer necessary.  It has good points, but it also has tons of bad points.

It is often claimed the religion is necessary for ethics, but that is untrue, as rational reasoning can also lead to ethics.  By modern standards, religion totally phails with accurately describing the world/providing medical advice.  Its only remaining role is filling "spiritual voids" in those who feel such a thing.

Personally, I made my own religion based on some random anime.
In b4 accusations of weeaboo.