How to live forever?

And by forever I mean at least 200 years.  Maybe 1000 if I'm lucky.  These anti-aging supplements only do so much to prevent oxidative damage.  Growth hormone injections might keep you going for a little while.  Beyond nutrition I'm looking for a way to make DNA ignore that cells have to split a limited number of times in one life.  I don't want my cells to stop splitting, but I also don't want cancer. 

You can't. I'm told it's boring anyway. Closest you'll get is by reproducting and passing on your values/whatever

>>1
Genes have a fail safe mechanism to prevent cancer which causes the cell to die once it multiplies a certain amount of times. You need to avoid injury and replace your genes with a retrovirus to "reset" the timer. This would need to be done completely to all your cells or certain cells will age to death whilst others will still be young and you will get progressively smaller and stupider.

Theoretically it is possible to genetically modify humans to regenerate like plants, but you don't have these genes.

>>2

BBBOOORRRIIINNNGGG

@ OP

I'm serious about this. Here is what you do: excel in school, go to an Ivy League College and study finance, become a wallstreet investor/broker, basically earn as much money as you can. eat healthy, stay fit, live at least for another 40 years.

once the tech is available, in 40 years, you will have the financial means to buy the tech to extend your life.

Bah, genetics are shit. Flesh is weak. Let's just wait until we can turn ourselves into machines. Then we can truly live forever. Besides if it becomes boring you can always kill yourself.

Enjoy your... synthetic enjoyment.

Yeah, no. Prolonging one's life past 120 is nothing more than a fantasy.

>>8

YOU LIE! YOU FUCKING LIE! I SAW THE HIGHLANDER!

>>5
haha, are you trying to kill the OP?  brokers all die young because of stress.  you are literally sacrificing years off your life for money.

>>6
interesting concept, but i like the conciousness in cyberspace present in GITS/blade runner/<insert sci-fi> novel better.
Imagine that one day all the computers in the world is powerful and has enough space for us to download all the information, traits and experiences of our organic brain into it, and making a simulation of ourselves in the computer form.
plus we can also save every few days/months/years, just in case our organic shells stop working during the time, and upload our memories in a new body. like a savestate lol.
but i won't do that though. i'll just exist in cyberspace and be one with the anonymous collective of 4chan for eternity.

it sounds better than heaven.

>>11
Where was the conciousness in cyberspace in Blade Runner?  Are you talking about the androids?

>>12
actually, no. but there are references to implanted memories etc.

>>13
what about that mercer empathy box thing?
or was that just in the book :/

>>11
You can have both. If you manage to digitize your mind you're pretty free to wander "cyberspace", but you could still use robotic bodies to do things in real world.

>>15
Human minds, as best we know, aren't directly translatable to digital data. Hell, you probably couldn't implant the mind of one person into another's body without wierd malfunctions/insanity because the mind is so tied into the unique structure of each person's brain.

>>16
>As best we know

granted, but as far as I can see, the thread has taken a turn into the realm of science fiction.
All of it is a hypothetical scenario, mind you, so anything goes.

>>1
Here's my plan, that I follow for world domination and eternal life.

1. Stay healthy and don't die.
2. Wait until good cyborg parts are available.
3. Replace as much as possible.
4. Wait until eternal life/life extension is available.
5. Live forever.
6. Wait for technological singularity.
7. Observe the end of the universe.

>>18

Same, but it assumes that 1 and 2 will work out just fine.

Cyborg parts or no, brain cells can't be regenerated and die all the time, so by age 150 you'll be retarded and have memory holes the size of saturn even if you manage to live that long.

Cloned brain cell implants/grafting. 

>>20
Haven't you seen those artifical brains from Ghost in the Shell?

>>21
Brains don't work like that.

No, but BWAINS do...

>>20
Of course brain cells can be regenerated, you just have to figure out how to do it.  We aren't going to live forever unless we can regenerate every part of our bodies.

Wait 20-40 (or less, if luck strikes) years and we will be able to.

>>19
Cyborg parts have already been available for years (but they aren't very good yet).  Staying alive is a matter of luck, it's pretty hard to survive a nuclear holocaust :/

>>1

From what I learned from Xenogears, I recommend you use "nanomachines" to extend your life.

>>26
But then you can't have sex

I'd rather be curesd to live forever/never age/can't die ,like Ciel and Dorian Gray in The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde.
Because i don't want to live 200 and LOOK 200 lol

>>28
If you got machine body you don't age. Well, it gets older and works less better, but you can always replace it.

>>29
It doesn't get old if it has nanomachines that repair it!

>>30
The nanomachines will break as well. Welcome to entropy!

>>31
dur, new nanomachines could be injected.

>>31
The nanomachines rebuild themselves as long as they do not mutate.  I assume I'd need some kind of program (or several for redundancy... hm, I'd need something that checks those programs as well... I guess it's a tree of checks that eventually ends in my brain) that checks for and eliminates mutated nanomachines.

What happens when parts of your brain need replacing? Wouldn't eventually your brain be composed of stuff completely different from what it began as and you essentially be a different person. I know by that logic I am not the same person I was 10 minutes ago, but we don't know.

>>33
How does MACHINE mutate? Assuming were talking about actual microscopic machinery and not somesort of genetically engineered and "programmed" lifeforms.

Machines mutate in the exact same way anything else mutates...

What about broken bits of nanomachine wedged in to a blood vessel?  Do nanomachines produce waste from using energy?  How does a nanomachine know when it's interfering with the function of an organ? 

Fuck nanomachines.  I need realistic solutions to my mortality problem.

The realistic solution is that you can delay the effects of aging by living healthily, but even the best in modern medicine won't lower the world mortality rate below 100%.

>>37
I'll probably not be using blood for anything but my brain, and replace it with something better if I can.  The rest will be powered by a miniature fusion reactor that would blow up the entire planet if I'm show down by a MS-06 Zaku II.  I'll avoid nanomachines inside my head, I'll let them scurry about my metal body instead doing simple and advanced tasks alike, such as repairing my super mega hyper laser cannon that can destroy galaxies.

>>34
Eh, as long as I am aware of myself and can control all my actions (except maybe in cases where I would do something wrong and hurt myself), I am myself.  Otherwise, I die, and what's left will have to conquer the universe for me while I watch from the next world (unless I stored a backup of my brain that's remotely fed with everything I experience).

wellive tried tricking my brain into keeping me young and it works,i tell my self im 10 yrs old and i will b forever.im not 18 and people think im 13,my aging and maturing process takes longer than norml kids,and i dont stress,when u stress and ur emotions go into ur cells it changes them ,cause aging n cancer,so no worries

>>36
But they're machines. They run predetermined programmed routines. One could argue that oddity in self replication routine could result mutation, but calling it mutation is bit misleading and such cases would be rare, especially if machines receive all their routines from host body.

>>41
Yes, mutation in replication would probably be the most common.  I assume it is possible that certain components of the nanomachines could fail too, and alter its actions, i.e. mutate it.

Hm, how about having the nanomachines reproduce by contacting a partner, compare their structure and replicate if they are identical, or destroy each other if not.  It could keep mutation rates down if it worked, but anti-faggots would be pissed off.

>>42

Then when one of their self-destruct circuits malfunctioned they'd TAKE OVER THE WORLD. Or at least make the whole idea useless.

>>43
Yeah, gray goo sucks :/  I guess I'll have to live in space, traveling around at speeds faster than light, fighting alien fleets, etc. while powering myself through... some future technology that I won't give any more to the nanomachines than they need (of course, they could develop the same technique I use and then rebel against me, but it's rather unlikely).

>>44
Once we have nanomachines, we will have human-engineered viruses. And antibodies. Only these won't have evolved through blind clumsy natural selection but will be directed by human ingenuity. Hacking nanbots is going to be cool, and the future is looking awesome.

You can't live forever.
You oxide. Nanoshit won't save your ass.

I'm pretty sure "oxide" is not a verb.

Nano machines would have about the same amount of energy as bacteria and other microbes. Unless the nano machines use fusion power or something.

>>48
We already use wireless power transfer on small devices, I guess it could be applied to nano machines too.

>>47

He meant oxidize.

A question to the OP, in living forever do you want to retain an organic body or an inorganic body?

>>49
but then all you have to do is destroy the central NODE with a photon torpedo

>>51
I don't honestly understand why someone would want to retain organic body, cause machines are way better. I guess most think that you can't have sex or pleasure with robotic body, but that's terribly wrong assumption. You could even create body with artificial womb, but that would be pretty retarded. I mean what's the point of having kids if you're immortal? 

sesx is just a form of pleasure, when science discovers how the brain-computer generates pain and pleasure then we can simply experience super orgasms at the press ofa button

though this may have to be restricted or we would just lie back and experince intense pleasure until we starve

>>54
Only retards would do that and death of them would be good thing.

I want an organic body until I'm forced to replace with artificial parts like McCoy in ST:TNG.  Idealy I'd stay in top shape like Highlander.  In the old testament 800 years was a normal lifespan for some reason.  

>>27
I dont give a fuck about sex if im going to be and eternal entity , I will be busy destroying the know universe lolololol

>>56
You'd get ridiculed(and owned) by other guys with robotic bodies though.

Brain-controlled cyborg tentacles for raping hordes of women == instant win.

I'm not about to read through all responses that have been made, but I assure you it's possible to live up to about the age of 600.

There is in fact a gene in cells that causes them to die after a certain number of reproductions, and scientists found a way to shut off this "timer" on life. Cells cease reproducing once they have no more room to expand, which is why you only grow new skin once old skin has shed off and made a place for the cells to grow over. For this reason by disabling the gene you can cause your cells to go on reproducing, your brain to go on functioning, and your heart to go on beating for years. They tested it in earth worms and they noticed that every worm who recieved the gene therapy lived about 8 times longer (which is why they get the number 600 years). Not only this, but unlike normal worms which become slow and stupid as they age, these worms remained very active until the day they died.

I don't know the exact cause of the death in the worms, but whatever it was, it was something sudden and predictable enough that every worm died around the same time. Also, the worms were perfectly healthy one day and dead the next. If you live to be 600, expect to randomly and suddenly die one day with no warning. Unless by then scientists have figured out what causes that sudden death, in which case try to avoid it =P

Lots of people think that living forever would be boring, but I'd personally like the idea. I understand all the "Your friends will die long before you" and "You'll do everything there is to do in life and still be alive" thing, but I'd still enjoy it.

>>40
I also think you're 13. It has nothing to do with your looks though.

>>60
Even 600 years wouldn't probably be enough to do everything there is to do in life. Besides who says you're friends ain't going to become immortal? You can always get new friends too.

But it would suck living 600 years for a differen't reason: work. Imagine working 550+ years everyday to keep yourself in solidity, unless you were well-endowed. =\

>>63
LOL!  With immortality comes the privilege of having an army of undead goons that pillage and rape villages while you sit on your throne in your evil stronghold of solitude.  The only thing that'll get boring after a few centuries is fighting of heroes.

>>63
You can outlive your debtors

>>65
oops i mean creditors

>>66
Not if they are immortal too and being probably quite rich they likely are.