And by forever I mean at least 200 years. Maybe 1000 if I'm lucky. These anti-aging supplements only do so much to prevent oxidative damage. Growth hormone injections might keep you going for a little while. Beyond nutrition I'm looking for a way to make DNA ignore that cells have to split a limited number of times in one life. I don't want my cells to stop splitting, but I also don't want cancer.
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Anonymous2006-08-10 17:26
You can't. I'm told it's boring anyway. Closest you'll get is by reproducting and passing on your values/whatever
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Anonymous2006-08-10 17:45
>>1
Genes have a fail safe mechanism to prevent cancer which causes the cell to die once it multiplies a certain amount of times. You need to avoid injury and replace your genes with a retrovirus to "reset" the timer. This would need to be done completely to all your cells or certain cells will age to death whilst others will still be young and you will get progressively smaller and stupider.
Theoretically it is possible to genetically modify humans to regenerate like plants, but you don't have these genes.
I'm serious about this. Here is what you do: excel in school, go to an Ivy League College and study finance, become a wallstreet investor/broker, basically earn as much money as you can. eat healthy, stay fit, live at least for another 40 years.
once the tech is available, in 40 years, you will have the financial means to buy the tech to extend your life.
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Anonymous2006-08-10 18:01
Bah, genetics are shit. Flesh is weak. Let's just wait until we can turn ourselves into machines. Then we can truly live forever. Besides if it becomes boring you can always kill yourself.
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Anonymous2006-08-10 19:59
Enjoy your... synthetic enjoyment.
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Anonymous2006-08-10 20:16
Yeah, no. Prolonging one's life past 120 is nothing more than a fantasy.
>>5
haha, are you trying to kill the OP? brokers all die young because of stress. you are literally sacrificing years off your life for money.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 0:50
>>6
interesting concept, but i like the conciousness in cyberspace present in GITS/blade runner/<insert sci-fi> novel better.
Imagine that one day all the computers in the world is powerful and has enough space for us to download all the information, traits and experiences of our organic brain into it, and making a simulation of ourselves in the computer form.
plus we can also save every few days/months/years, just in case our organic shells stop working during the time, and upload our memories in a new body. like a savestate lol.
but i won't do that though. i'll just exist in cyberspace and be one with the anonymous collective of 4chan for eternity.
it sounds better than heaven.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 1:00
>>11
Where was the conciousness in cyberspace in Blade Runner? Are you talking about the androids?
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Anonymous2006-08-11 2:43
>>12
actually, no. but there are references to implanted memories etc.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 2:53
>>13
what about that mercer empathy box thing?
or was that just in the book :/
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Anonymous2006-08-11 4:17
>>11
You can have both. If you manage to digitize your mind you're pretty free to wander "cyberspace", but you could still use robotic bodies to do things in real world.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 5:31
>>15
Human minds, as best we know, aren't directly translatable to digital data. Hell, you probably couldn't implant the mind of one person into another's body without wierd malfunctions/insanity because the mind is so tied into the unique structure of each person's brain.
granted, but as far as I can see, the thread has taken a turn into the realm of science fiction.
All of it is a hypothetical scenario, mind you, so anything goes.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 8:46
>>1
Here's my plan, that I follow for world domination and eternal life.
1. Stay healthy and don't die.
2. Wait until good cyborg parts are available.
3. Replace as much as possible.
4. Wait until eternal life/life extension is available.
5. Live forever.
6. Wait for technological singularity.
7. Observe the end of the universe.
Same, but it assumes that 1 and 2 will work out just fine.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 14:34
Cyborg parts or no, brain cells can't be regenerated and die all the time, so by age 150 you'll be retarded and have memory holes the size of saturn even if you manage to live that long.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 14:38
Cloned brain cell implants/grafting.
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Anonymous2006-08-11 16:10
>>20
Haven't you seen those artifical brains from Ghost in the Shell?
>>20
Of course brain cells can be regenerated, you just have to figure out how to do it. We aren't going to live forever unless we can regenerate every part of our bodies.
Wait 20-40 (or less, if luck strikes) years and we will be able to.
>>19
Cyborg parts have already been available for years (but they aren't very good yet). Staying alive is a matter of luck, it's pretty hard to survive a nuclear holocaust :/
I'd rather be curesd to live forever/never age/can't die ,like Ciel and Dorian Gray in The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde.
Because i don't want to live 200 and LOOK 200 lol
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Anonymous2006-08-12 5:50
>>28
If you got machine body you don't age. Well, it gets older and works less better, but you can always replace it.
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Anonymous2006-08-12 8:09
>>29
It doesn't get old if it has nanomachines that repair it!
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Anonymous2006-08-12 13:09
>>30
The nanomachines will break as well. Welcome to entropy!
>>31
The nanomachines rebuild themselves as long as they do not mutate. I assume I'd need some kind of program (or several for redundancy... hm, I'd need something that checks those programs as well... I guess it's a tree of checks that eventually ends in my brain) that checks for and eliminates mutated nanomachines.
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Anonymous2006-08-12 20:23
What happens when parts of your brain need replacing? Wouldn't eventually your brain be composed of stuff completely different from what it began as and you essentially be a different person. I know by that logic I am not the same person I was 10 minutes ago, but we don't know.
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Anonymous2006-08-12 20:25
>>33
How does MACHINE mutate? Assuming were talking about actual microscopic machinery and not somesort of genetically engineered and "programmed" lifeforms.
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Anonymous2006-08-12 23:05
Machines mutate in the exact same way anything else mutates...
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Anonymous2006-08-13 2:15
What about broken bits of nanomachine wedged in to a blood vessel? Do nanomachines produce waste from using energy? How does a nanomachine know when it's interfering with the function of an organ?
Fuck nanomachines. I need realistic solutions to my mortality problem.
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Anonymous2006-08-13 2:24
The realistic solution is that you can delay the effects of aging by living healthily, but even the best in modern medicine won't lower the world mortality rate below 100%.
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Anonymous2006-08-13 4:36
>>37
I'll probably not be using blood for anything but my brain, and replace it with something better if I can. The rest will be powered by a miniature fusion reactor that would blow up the entire planet if I'm show down by a MS-06 Zaku II. I'll avoid nanomachines inside my head, I'll let them scurry about my metal body instead doing simple and advanced tasks alike, such as repairing my super mega hyper laser cannon that can destroy galaxies.
>>34
Eh, as long as I am aware of myself and can control all my actions (except maybe in cases where I would do something wrong and hurt myself), I am myself. Otherwise, I die, and what's left will have to conquer the universe for me while I watch from the next world (unless I stored a backup of my brain that's remotely fed with everything I experience).
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kcaj2006-08-13 15:08
wellive tried tricking my brain into keeping me young and it works,i tell my self im 10 yrs old and i will b forever.im not 18 and people think im 13,my aging and maturing process takes longer than norml kids,and i dont stress,when u stress and ur emotions go into ur cells it changes them ,cause aging n cancer,so no worries