MATH ISN'T REAL

Discuss!

>>1
You are creative. Philosopher?

>>2
NO, I AM CREATIVE ARTIST AND THEOLOGIST DIETRICH THE ATHEIST!
FEAR MY EXISTENTIAL ANGST!

Of course math isn't real.

It's maths!

Oh, you Americans spell so strangely.

>>4
"Of course math isn't real."
What did you spell it "math" then, motherfucker?
Practice what you preach, dickweed.

>>5
Fails at both reading and writing.

this thread fails
metaphisics is a dishonor in Mother Russia

The safe sex makespan problem is used in operations research as an example that the cheapest capital cost often leads to dramatic increase in operational time, but that the shortest operational time need not be given by the most expensive capital cost.

M men are each to have safe sex with N women using condoms. Each condom can be used any number of times, but the same side of one condom cannot be exposed to more than one person. Condoms can be re-used any number of times, and more than one can be used simultaneously.

Given M men and N women, the minimum number of condoms C(M,N) required for all the men to have safe sex with all the women is given by:

    * C(M,N) = M + N - 2 if both M,N >= 2
    * C(M,1) = M
    * C(1,N) = N
    * C(1,1) = 1

You will need a new condom for every new pair of people.

Turning it inside out exposes the Male to the first Womans business.

>>9
Condoms can be re-used any number of times, and <b>more than one can be used simultaneously.</b>

>>10
Fuck, I failed :(
How do I bolded? OTL

>>11
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Curious question indeed. Read the first few chapters of "The Road to Reality" by Roger Penrose, he addresses this question.

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>>15
Fuckin lard swallowers

... only in Kansas

Fucking motor oil drinkers

Of course math isn't real. It's an idea, a methodology, which is entirely in our heads. Is there a physical thing out there that we can point to and call math? No. Therefore math is not real.

It's maths, with an "S", unless you want to sound like a fat American redneck eating greasy hamburgers in an oil smelling route 66 gas station as you watch NASCAR in a small TV.

>>20
Actually, as it's just a shortened version of "Mathematics", "Math" is perfectly correct, motherfucker.
Just because you guys don't have a fucking empire anymore doesn't mean it's okay for you guys to whine about everything we do in such a self-righteous manner. Language is a matter of convention, and if we want to say Math, we can damn well go ahead and do it!
Despite having a lot of fuckwits in this country, we also have most of the world's leading academics, and certainly the world's best universities. So go whine to France, they dig that these days.

>>21
>we also have most of the world's leading academics
And most of them are foreign.

>world's best universities
if by best you mean the one's with most money.

America after only 50 years or so in the limelight is already going down.

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>>we also have most of the world's leading academics
>And most of them are foreign.
So is 99% of the US population, fuckwit.

>>world's best universities
>if by best you mean the one's with most money.
That, and most publication, most academic journals, highest ranking academic publication, biggest names in the business for most domains, most postgraduates, most PhDs produced, most Masters degrees accomplished, etc etc etc

America may be going down economico-politically, and it puts a bit of a strain on academics, but we're still world leaders in academia, despite the (perhaps well deserved) reputation of being arrogant ignorant fuckheads. You've got to remember that there's a distinction between your average beer-luvin' Bob over here and people like John Searle or Noam Chomsky.

Anywho, none of this actually goes against my point. We say Math, you say Maths, who gives a flying fuck?

>>24
So what if 99% of the US population is foreign? My point is that the leading academics just transfer from other universities to USA because of the money, but now that USA has tightened up the immigration and the countries have placed incentives so that their brightest won't leave the country, USA is doomed. Who the fuck is John Searle and Naom Chomsky anyway. I don't recall USA giving forth to anyone significant in the scientific world that most people will know or study even in university undergraduate level. We gave you Andrew Wiles. For hundred of years Americans had the chance to solve the problem, but at the end it was a Brit. Fuck America. You were living in caves, eating shit, raping your siblings until Europe colonised and civilised your shitty excuse of a country. Now that we've left, America is going down the shitter yet again. I will enjoy watching America collapse under its own massive religious faggotry.

>>24
and US producing more material and other countries is obvious given how big US is. Now if you compare US to whole of Europe, then Europe leads.

"The European Union leads the U.S. in...the number of science and engineering graduates; public research and development (R&D) expenditures; and new capital raised" (The European Dream, p.70).
"Europe surpassed the United States in the mid-1990s as the largest producer of scientific literature" (The European Dream, p.70).

So a better measure would be a papers/population. You may have the highest GDP, but you don't have the highest GDP per capita.

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>>26
>>25
One again you muppets are evading the argument. The point here is that our use of "Math" instead of "Maths" is perfectly legit. More to the point, who gives a damn. But hey, I'm not the one that started.

Aside from that, >>25 is obviously more of a dumbfuck that your average american, which is ironic. He's as aggressive as a redneck, as ignorant as an alabama farmer (come on, Noam Chomsky? Even my 15 year old niece knows about him), and a irrelevant as most statements made by our current government.

>>26
You really expect a review called "The European Dream" to be unbiased? That said, I think you're right. But we're just talking about UK vs US here, within the context of >>25's war against the expression "Math".

>>27
You could also mention the fact that the USA has a fucking low HDI, which matters more than GDP per capita. It's the sad truth, yes. But once again, this is all very irrelevant to the argument. America sucks on so many fronts, but people like >>25 are just as bad since they play off stereotypes, make uncorrect assumptions, act all bigoted and nationalist and randomly hate people who act differently. Just like the worst americans around. Funny, huh?

>>25: Piece of advice. I wouldn't even bother replying now. You've clearly finished digging your own grave a while back, and have buried yourself twice over.

This thread delivers

>>29
Indeed, I didn't know some brits could get so insecure over one ruddy letter allegedly "missing" at the end of a word.

This is generally the sort of thread where you get failed matheticians and a few engineers bashing everyone else for doubting that math is one of most important things on earth.

>>30

Maths. Speak english you retard.

Significant mathematicians produced by Europe > Significant mathematicians produced by America = 0

Fucking owned.

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Guys, I'll admit I'm pretty stumped when it comes to dealing with someone with the level of stupidity of >>31. I mean, ignoring the arguments presented in the last dozen posts...
Shit man, I thought hicks didn't exist outside of the US, but apparently, one of the british ones got his hand on one of those magic internet boxes.

>>34

Hey, guess what language you are speaking and writing right now. It's English, not American. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. America is a british colony as well, so we expect you to speak proper english. Not some hick bastardised version.

The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (the New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).
The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).


LOL AMERICANS ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED

tell me something i don't know

>>35
America WAS a british colony. Remember that whole war of independence thing? You know, when we kicked your ass with the help of the freaking FRENCH.

English is the new Lingua Franca BECAUSE of america, not despite it. We can write things the way the guys designing our dictionaries say, and there's nothing you can really do about it since:
a) you have no actual metaphysical justification for one version of the language set being "superior to the other" just because of pre-existance. You're not speaking Shakespearean english, are you?

b) You don't have any other means of enforcing it upon us since we'd kick your ass militarily, financially, and academically (at a university level). Ergo don't give me that Rome bullshit, 'cause we ain't in Rome anymore, dickweed.

this thread is a dishonor for μαθηματικά and mother russia, stop whining and go solve a millenium prize problem

>>38
>and academically (at a university level).

not if we recall all the foreign students studying at your universities lol.

Also America is STILL a british colony. War of independence is just rubbish.