As some of you may or may not have heard, one of the famous M4 Enigma ciphers has been decoded using the power of over 2,500 computers connected to solve the ciphers.
You can donate your computer power by goin to that site.
zomg, teh internets helped solve something *dies*
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Anonymous2006-03-03 19:31
nazi gold
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Anonymous2006-03-03 20:46
Good job!!!!
Now that we know what Rommel is up to, we can free Africa and help the nig... OH SHI-
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Anonymous2006-03-03 22:32
This is so incredibly boring I might shoot myself. All I can say is thank god for those who could be botherred to decode the fucking thing so we could win ww2.
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Anonymous2006-03-04 7:26 (sage)
OMG we never won :tinfoil:
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Anonymous2006-03-04 10:24
It would be like the Philip K.Dick's 'Man In The High Castle'
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Anonymous2006-03-04 14:18 (sage)
LOL, WWII didn't happen! Seems the Jews fooled you all, they did a really good job I must say, what with leaving undeciphered messages and the brainwashing and all.
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Anonymous2006-03-04 15:04 (sage)
>>7
LOL, you're going to jail! If you're in Europe, that is.
A guy with a PH.D is is in jail for speaking his mind. David Irving
went to jail for speech crimes, just like Ernst Zundel and Germar
Rudolph.
Seriously, this is a bad thing for free speech. Who knows, maybe there
wasn't a systematic extermination of Jews. The evidence these people
bring up is pretty stiff, stiff enough to get thme sent to jail for
'insulting the dead' where 'the truth is no defense.' Seriously folks.
Where's the decent people around who care about things like open-debate
and the truth no matter what it may be when you need them? We're supposed
to be open-minded people, even about things like the Holocaust.
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Anonymous2006-03-19 22:58
Hm... First off I think the holocaust was pretty real and whoever says it was't is probably a faggot. Yet I don't see why we shouldn't/aren't be allowed to even question the official Amerikkkan version of History. Freedom my ass.
Why is everyone so upset about this? Its one crazy guy in germany; there are greater violations of free speech just about everywhere.
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Anonymous2006-03-20 8:11
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Yeah, you lefties whine about free speech but when somebody wants to question something you don't like then free speech is over.
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Anonymous2006-03-20 12:02
Actually the 'Holocaust' has been inquired into by many people. They all go to jail or get death threats though, so many don't speak out. I think that the Holohoax was a hoax. Intellectually, I'm curious if it was not only a way for the Jews to punish the Germans but also to scam the world out of billions (which they have) and a piece of land owned rightfully by another people.
My degree is in history. I wouldn't ever dare say anything. I'm under threat of losing my job,being hounded socially, and/or being killed.
The actual numbers of 'holocaust truthseekers/revionists/"Deniers"/whatever' are actually pretty high and the only ones that would even attempt it are people whose area of expertise is history. There are actually quite a few public ones, but you never hear about them because the media keeps a lid on them. The media is not objective.
What atleast three people are in jail for 'holocaust denial' in Europe. An Israeli/Jewish(duh) lawyer wants to put the head-honcho of Iran in jail for 'Holocaust denial.' Let's see...
There was also this one guy in France that published something indirectly critical of the six million myth (historian with degree,) they came into his house without warning, arrested him temporarily, searched his house, and burned his papers. They told him that if he published any more 'holocaust denial' he would spend several years in jail, minimum sentence.
There are all sorts of stories like this.
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Anonymous2006-03-20 12:55
Holocaust is a myth fabricated and perpetuated by Jews to enduce sympathy from the international community while they rape Palestine. Now that they are taking the rape too far, everyone is waking up to the truth. Fuck the jews. Bunch of lying scums.
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Anonymous2006-03-20 18:42
I doubt you can lie about that, especially when families lost so many members and everybody saw what happened that night where Germans were pissed off and broke Jew shop windows.
I know there's a possibility that the number of victims was exaggerated (and I would say the same happened in China, where they claim the Japanese killed more people than the city ever had), but I don't think this can be a fake.
The fact that the iranian faggot claims the holocaust was fake doesn't help to think it was indeed fake. Adolf Hitler would have probably denied the holocaust too.
Look, I always love how people just run around in circles talking about tertiary issues like survivor stories (people can lie, and they lie even better when you can get 1 million for being a 'holocaust survivor!' No joke, look at how much these people were actually PAID.) as if they were some form of refutation to:
(I'm too lazy to resort the numbers)
2. If the Jewish population was 1/2th'd or 1/3ed'd (I forget which) then why in the hell did their population go up during WWII? That's alotta babies!
3. Why did the 'anti-semetic' organization of the !Red Cross! give the German concentration camps their seal of approval? (They inspected the camps.)
4. Why wasn't there any testimony /not under TORTURE and threats to kill family members/ that there were concentration camps?
5. The Germans were always fastitious in keeping records. How come these things weren't recorded.
6. Why were there only around 300,000-400,000 people detained in concentration camps on record (including criminals, traitors, gypsies, Jews, and other people the National Socialists didn't approve of) if six MILLION were killed? The Germans kept records of EVERYTHING.
7. How precisely did the Germans manage to cremate six million people. People who specialize in cremation have said this was patently impossible. The ashes of six million people would be VISIBLE FROM SPACE. The ironic thing I keep on thinking of is that when you look at all these concentration camps, and think to yourself... 6,000,000? These camps would have trouble with a couple of thousand...
8. Zyklon B was used as a delousing agent. It's known that the Germans wrote plenty of letters talking about how to increase the quality of life for the people in concentration camps (not Jews specifically but indirectly.) I guess that's why they built swimming pools, orchestras, and soccor fields for the people in the concentration camps. Why go to all that trouble if you're just going to kill people?
9.Zyklon B sucks at killing people. It's like trying to kill somebody by putting them in a bathroom you just bleached. Yes, the National Socialists somehow managed to kill six million people using something about as deadly as smelling bleach. The only reason why Zyklon B would even be suggested, as ludiocrous as it is, would be because the National Socialists didn't keep any truly lethal hazardous gases around. Yes, six million Jews were fumigated to death. (Rolls eyes) Beyond ridiculous. The Nazis must have also poisoned them with salt in the hopes that they would grow diamond bunions! Just come up with something ridiculous and easily proven to be untrue! If it's about the holocaust, you can get sent to jail for doubting it in Europe and the truth is not a defense.
10. If the National Socialists wanted to kill people, by God they could kill people. A tiny European nation taking on the rest of Europe, Russia, and the United States proves that beyond a doubt. The Germans could kick serious ass and were definately hardcore. So, why in the Hell, didn't they just go ahead and dig pits like Stalin and just shoot people while in the pits. The Germans were very efficiency minded people. They didn't have a lot to waste in the first place. Why not just shoot the Jews and reuse the casings? Why do some crazy evil genius type plan? Shower heads? With Gas? It goes totally against every single National Socialist ideal. If the National Socialists wanted you dead, they'd shoot you in the head. Quick and efficient. No bullshit. They'd also shoot you somewhere so the mess would be easy to clean up. In short, no silly underhanded plans from these guys. That's too 'Jewish' for a National Socialist.
11. The first 'holocaust' storied were something around 40 million Jews, or some ridiculous number like that. Over time, the numbers decreased. The first stories were of things like electro-shock chambers and other ridiculous ideas. Over time, the stories that were just totally unbelievable lies managed to get weeded out. Eventually, after people actually genetically tested them, the soap and the lamp shade stories (the lie is that they made out of Jews) were proven false using modern technology. No human skin or fat. Ironically, the German soap that was tested was actually without fat if I remember correctly, a rather cheaply made soap because the Germans had shortages of everything, even fuel (V2 rockets were made with ethanol if my memory serves correctly. The one thing the Germans had an endless supply of was practical genius.)
12. It goes against the National Socialist modus operandi. Look, if somebody suggested the systematic extermination of somebody, then guess what a National Socialist would say to you, "That sounds like something a Jew would do." They took this thing very seriously. National Socialists are sort of like the modern day and practical extension of those guys that sat in ranks and agreed to shoot each other. They were VERY concerned with honor, dignity, and fair play. They screwed over the Jews, but that's because the Jews screwed over them, or so their story goes. Some things they simply wouldn't have done, because they would have considered them Jewish. Let me point out to you that many Jewish holidays celebrate the Jewish slaughter of their enemies, and the old testament has a couple of stories of Jews gleefully slaughtering entire peoples, sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers, and even LIVESTOCK. The Jews are quite ethnocentric and you don't survive as a collective in alien environments by being nice. A National Socialist would tell you straight up that they didn't like Jews, although not all of them were bad, but wiping out all of them would be Jewish ideal and not German. Hitler talked about setting up a place for Jews in Madagascar.
13. No gas chambers. No proof. No prussian blue staining. No physical evidence. Killing six million people leaves physical traces. Killing a THOUSAND people leaves traces. You can't hide killing 100 people, and today killing ten without notice would be impossible.
14. Auschwitz. Number killed at one stage, 4 mil. Changed the sign to like 2mil. Then to 1.5 mil. Then to 1mil. I think they recently changed it or are thinking about changing it to 800 something thousand. Why the change? A colleague of mine once made a joke that Jewish math goes something like this:
6,000,000
-6,000,000
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6,000,000
Some things are funny because they're true.
Look, I could come up with detractions from the six million myth all day. There are so many proofs, undeniable proofs, against the six million myth or the systematic killing myth that I can't even LIST them all from memory (and I've done a lot of research in this area.)
Quite frankly, in open debate with openminded people, the holohoax is dead. The Germans mistreated some people in the concentration camps, but they didn't systematically murder anybody. They probably treated the concentration camp members better than the Japanese were treated in the US during their internment, and for a longer time. I'm an American and I have no problems saying this, but the truth is the truth. Case closed.
1. There is suitable evidence for WW2.
2. The evidence for the six million myth is doubtable, spurious, incomplete, ridiculous, and easily disproven.
Research and debate are the only ways to divide lies from truth. Comparing a lie (the systematic extermination of Jews by National Socialist Germany) to the truth (the event known to us as WW2 in the European theater) does not make the lie, truth, nor a truth, a lie.
All the people who are trying to say that WW2 didn't happen because the holohoax didn't happen are just trying to be sarcastic and ridiculous.
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Anonymous2006-03-23 8:32
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Can you prove beyond unreasonable (hey, I'm Anonymous) doubt that WW2 did happen?
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Anonymous2006-03-23 9:19
Yes. The key there is unreasonable. If you are a relativist or a nihilist or if you are a strict immediate experience empiricist or someone that believes that only they exist then I probably wouldn't be able to convince you. That's more of an epistemological question.
However, within a structure of qualifiably practical reason, WW2 is a verifiable event and the six million myth is just that, a myth.
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Anonymous2006-03-23 10:38
I can just advise everyone reading this to read also arguments of the other side. Do not forget this is the INTERNETS with all kinds of weirdos. People telling you that there are Aliens on earth, we didn't land on the moon, whatever. If someone approached you on the street and told you his crazy version of the world, you would just turn away and not think about it. But if it is written, people tend to believe it more.
So please everyone, if you are interested in this subject, there are plenty of sites AGAINST holocaust denial, which counter every argument the holocaust deniers come up with.
Well, atleast make sure that they are 'counters' and not misdirections. I'm tired of Holocaust mythologitians of not tackling the actual issues mentioned.
Also, be sure that the proof cited by the people trying to further the existence of the holocaust lie are proving that six million died, not that Jews died at the hands of Germans. Jews did die in concentration camps, but a systematic extermination is a far cry from typhus (which they tried to keep down using ironically Zyklon B) or starvation (which was endemic in Germany at the end of the war.)
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Anonymous2006-03-23 11:25
In other words, if a Jew dies in Germany, that does not prove the holocaust.
Jews dying != Holocaust Holocaust=systematic extermination of Jews in a rather ridiculous way.
Furthermore, the logical structure of the argument that holocaust mythologicians use is thus: If Jews were systematically exterminated Jews died. Jews died.
Therefore:
Jews were systematically exterminated.
This follows the logical form of:
A->B
B
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A
This is a logical fallacy known as affirming the consequent.
If Jews were systematically killed, of course they were killed. However, Jews dying does not mean they were systematically killed. People die for all sorts of reasons, there is no bidirectionality of death being linked to death by systematic extermination. That would mean that, for instance, because my grandmother died she died by systematic extermination in Germany. This is patently untrue and ridiculous. She died from disease in another country entirely.
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Anonymous2006-03-23 12:01
12 million died in the holocaust, you bitch.
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Anonymous2006-03-23 12:02
i.e. you forgot poland.
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Anonymous2006-03-23 12:23
No, 20 million died in the holocaust, and anybody that says otherwise should go to jail.
The whole "oh the jew population still went up" is just a myth because people either:
1. Didn't bother looking up facts.
2. Used a poor source of information.
If you look at the World Almanac you can find exactly how many jews there were in the census before (16,643,120) and after (11,266,600) the war.
But hey, people shouldn't be put in jail for that sort of thing. People should be open to examine any theory as much as they want until they give up or find evidence to disprove it.
Silly European laws.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 6:59
>>38
THE WORLD ALMANAC IS A REPUTABLE SOURCE THAT IS NEVER WRONG!!!
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Anonymous2006-03-24 10:48
The World Almanac was revised in 1949 World Almanac with figures from the American Jewish Committee. The American Jewish Committee also supplied figures for before that 'didn't reflect the holocaust,' but then there is significant evidence to doubt both the pre-war and the post-war statistics by the World Almanac are accurate.
In other words, they modified their current story in the 1949 World Almanac to reflect their new story, without any physical evidence.
There is no evidence that 6 million Jews died during this period. My source is shown below in full. My source's sources are included in the text, but only as references.
For those who need a refresher, World War 2 was from 1939 to 1945.
(Note: I'm trying to post the full source, but I'm getting problems with my submission being too large.)