For that theory to work, one must accept the possibility that smart men get to mate with and have children by beautiful women. The logic sort of breaks down at that point.
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Anonymous2005-06-10 4:09
for those with sub-par reasoning abilities (and i bet you're ugly too):
a lot of smart people work on looking good
a lot of stupid people don't work on looking good
some smart people don't work on looking good
some stupid people work on looking good
also what the fuck does beauty have to do with genetics LOL
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Anonymous2005-06-10 6:31
>>9 also what the fuck does beauty have to do with genetics LOL
Anonymous, it does... First, most of how good or bad you look is determined in your DNA. Second, girls almost always only go for looks, so better looking people is naturally selected, while the ugly die alone in their parents' basement.
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Anonymous2005-06-10 7:13
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Which is why when I go outside I only see beautiful people.
It is. If ugly people still exists is because it gets to mate with equally ugly people, plus what's beautiful and what's ugly changes over centuries, and natural selection won't work in so little time.
But there's one thing that's undoubtly true: girls, almost always, only go for looks. Most of the ones who don't, still care most for looks, and money comes second.
lol, you're probably told girls care about personality and guys about looks, or are a girl yourself. Breaking news: girls are even more shallow than guys, and if you're told otherwise, it's a lie.
You need more Maddox, less buying lies girls tell.
That girls are more shallow than men is not new information. What women prioritize is STATUS, and provider capabilities, not looks. How do I know this? I watch sitcoms.
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Christy McJesus!DcbLlAZi7U2005-06-13 5:07
>> a lot of smart people work on looking good
No, smart people work on being smart. That's how they get smart.
Of course, what he was really getting at is that some people can juggle everything, and others can't do one thing in the first place.
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Anonymous2005-06-13 6:02
yeah but i find all black people to be ugly. dont get me wrong ive got nothing against them i just dont find them attractive. does that make them stupid?
Good looks are different depending on your personal tastes. In america people seem to think that blondes with Long flowing hair and large breasts are really hot. I however dont consider them that how. give me a flat chested nerdy girl anyday.
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York!TnfC957mQY2005-06-13 6:06
Pretty much everyone enjoys a chesty blonde. 8)
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Anonymous2005-06-14 4:11
>> yeah but i find all black people to be ugly. dont get me wrong ive got nothing against them i just dont find them attractive. does that make them stupid?
Is that a rhetorical question?
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Anonymous2005-07-28 6:10
Now all they need to do is afix society's idea of "attractive" and "status" down to one set thing for more than 100 years, and then evolution might be able to validate the research...
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Anonymous2005-07-28 6:24
Something that 'became an issue' with an attractive friend of mine on the weekend-- at University (particuarly in Chemistry..), the Attractive People have everyone tripping over themselves to help them out. Ugly People might get 5 minutes with a tutor once a year. Ugly People never get invited to hang out with the Tutors and Lecturers, and hence don't get any advantages like the Attractive People.
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Anonymous2005-07-28 13:16
People will believe anything that comes out of a scientist's arse...
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Inst2005-07-31 4:18
The concept of good looks is genetic. Basically, if you look good, chances are, you'll have a superior geneset. If you look like shit and are still intelligent and athletic, chances are, you're a mutant.
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Anonymous2005-07-31 4:37 (sage)
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But of course it's all dependent on genetic discourse.
Ashkenazi Jews are smart, apparently they have a neural mutation, but they're still butt ugly. This is because they're traditionally inbred, and it is apparently impossible for a unification of "Smart" genes with "lol i have tons of money so i'm going to marry a model" genes.
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Anonymous2005-08-11 21:22
From an evolutionary point of view, attractiveness doesn't necessarily mean they are a good mate. But it does mean that your ancestors (presuming who you find attractive is genetically determined, which incidentally I don't, considering how sexuality and fetishes seem to be developed from childhood experiences) found attractive people who have produced offspring up to the present point. It doesn't ensure your success in the future, but still at a guess I think it is fair to say that if you find someone more attractive then they will probably be a better mate, considering the amount of time it has taken for the faculty to evolve.
Just to backtrack slightly, my best guess is that human genes determine how childhood experiences affect what you find attractive. "The human zoo" by Desmond Morris is what I basically take from.
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Anonymous2005-08-11 22:03
God I've explained that badly.
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Anonymous2005-08-12 1:43
presuming who you find attractive is genetically determined, which incidentally I don't
Research has progressed since then, but the answers thus far match those linked above.
Even if you look at people whom different cultures consider attractive, you'll note some characteristics in common. For example, attractive women, no matter what their weight or colour, tend to have clean skin, 2/3 waist/hip ratio, are symmetric, and generally hairless. I suppose they don't stink either.
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Anonymous2005-08-14 15:33
There are still lots of subjective opinions on what people consider attractive. Zoophiles, for example. Therefore I consider childhood experiences cause these variations while genetics determine in what way certain childhood experiences affect attractiveness.
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Anonymous2005-08-16 8:56
The fact that there are deviants in this world does not mean that rules do not exist.
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Anonymous2005-08-16 9:33
But I believe there are deviations between how important the hip-waist ratio and clear skin, for example, relate to each other for each individual. To say there is an objective attractiveness doesn't make sense to me, unless it is an ideal attractiveness to maximise your evolutionary success.
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Anonymous2005-08-17 3:18
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there is, however, an "average" attractiveness, wouldn't you agree?
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Anonymous2005-08-17 9:01
Yes, because all peoples' opinions on what is attractive approaches the same ideal, but the ideal doesn't exist objectively. For two specific individuals the ideal opinion of what is attractive - to maximise evolutionary success - could be different.
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