Sublime is better than vim/emacs

Give me just one good reason why I should switch to using archaic shit like vim and I will uninstall sublime and never touch it again.

I'll start by telling you why I use sublime. Also you can't tell me to install additional `plugins' for vim.

- cursor control. Yes, it's useful and at times faster than using a keyboard. If you don't think so you're like one of those fags who owns a DAS keyboard with no key markings.

- it's got a file tree browser with collapsible directories.

- it has syntax highlighting and makes reading code easier

- key bindings i.e. it can do everything that vim can do

- multiple cursor (you jelly?)

Enough for now. Protip: with a little reverse engineering (all you have to do is change 10 bytes in a hex editor) sublime can be yours for free.

Oh almost forgot

It supports tabs and doesn't have a steep learning curve.

acme is better than vim/emacs

Vim will get you laid

Vim user here. Sublime Text is a good text editor, and if you feel comfortable with it, there's no reason to switch. As for the points you made:

cursor control
If by cursor control you mean using the mouse to point and click, then gvim (vim in a window) can do that too.

file tree browser
Vim obeys the Unix philosophy of separating areas of concern (do one thing and do it well). It's a text editor, not a file manager, operating system etc. You say no 'plugins', but there's always NERDTree if you really need something for project management. Otherwise, you have netrw (bundled with vim) that shows you an interactive directory listing when you attempt to edit a directory (:e ~/).

syntax highlighting
Vim has excellent support for syntax highlighting, and a metric shit-ton of formats right out of the box. All it takes is

syntax on
filetype on

in your .vimrc to enable syntax highlighting and filetype detection.

key bindings
Vim allows you to rebind everything. You can rebind things specific to an editing mode. You can rebind things recursively. ST can emulate vim to a certain extent (Vintage mode), but it's far from complete. For example, typing 2iyo<esc> gives "yo", not "yoyo". Also, ctrl+v is still mapped to paste, not visual block mode (see below).

multiple cursor
Vim has visual block mode (^V), which allows you to edit multiple lines at once. Pretty neat. OTOH, I haven't found the idea of multiple cursors very useful myself. (Maybe for HTML, but you're better off using something like Zen Coding for that.)

supports tabs
gvim has tabs (:tabedit, :tabnew etc.)  Splits are nicer for side-by-side editing though (:split and :vsplit).

steep learning curve
I agree with you on this one. Vim is not friendly for beginners, because it forces you to unlearn a lot of your habits. There are plenty of learning materials out there, though. Try :vimtutor (built-in) to get a feel for working with vim, and check out http://vimcasts.org/ for instructional videos. Working with vim makes you insanely fast at editing code (Delete a line? dd. Change all "foo"s to "bar"s? :%s/foo/bar/g<enter>. Replace the contents of a parenthesis? ci).) I just tried the last example on a piece of code spanning multiple lines in ST's Vintage mode. It doesn't work (see what I mean about incomplete?).

Also, vim is open source, so you can easily mess around with the internals.

emacs is still shit though

>>5
You shouldn't have bothered. This is most likely another kopipe from /g/.

How's the Perl syntax highlighting?

>>6

It seemed more like someone trying to reaffirm their decision to pirate a 40$ text editor, but whatever.

vim/emacs is for autistic neckbeards who dislike mice and "l33t h4x0rs" with "terminal skills".
Normal people don't want to learn tons of esoteric bullshit like command modes, thousands of macros and writing "the ultimate vimrc". They..just edit text. Anyone can edit it and learn the menus in seconds. There is no learning curve. Everything works as cohesive GUI. Instead of command mode you just enter hotkey for command or select menu->command.

Can your editor open 16GB file under a minute?

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>>5

OP here

Good post, thanks. I will consider your points.

>>8
Isn't it $70?

_{Back to the imageboards, please!}

EXPERT programmers use vim and emacs.

>>14

``EXPERT'' programmers don't argue about editors because they care more about code.

>>15

``EXPERT'' programmers don't waste time responding to obvious trolls on textboards because they care more about code.

>>15
_{Back to /g/, please!}

/prog/ is for EXPERT programmers who code in vim and emacs. Leave all advertisements for proprietary editors on /g/.

>>16
``EXPERT'' programmers don't post on /prog/ because they care more about code.

[AUTISM INTENSIFIES]
 "vig"(Vi Graphics):a graphics editor with vim command interface.
imagine all productivity gains(also graphical macros and "insert template") you would get by switching from GIMP and curing RSI of thousands of artists.
[AUTISM INTENSIFIES]
also what about editing sounds "vis"(Vi Sound): a sound editor with vim command interface.
remix music with 3 keystrokes, which would take 20 mouse clicks and 10 inputs. switch between audio modes. Replay segments.
>MAXIMUM AUTISM
and finally "vik"(Vi Keyboard Interface) a software which takes over the mouse completely, moving the cursor to specific location(up/down/left/right/to default button/close button/etc),dragging to location and clicking(double/single/triple/left/right).Of course it will disable itself if it knows the current app is vi-complete.

Give me just one good reason why I should switch to using archaic shit like vim and I will uninstall sublime and never touch it again.
There's no good reason. You're an HTML5/CSS3 ``hacker'' who has no need for a real text editor. Have fun with your toy.

>>19
http://i.imgur.com/mN4YjrY.png

dubs

>>20

Wow this post really made me mad. I will have you know I have barely done any front-end/web development, but what's really annoying is retards like you who don't use CSS on their website because they are too cool for it and have zero taste or style, and have to constantly prove how hardcore they are because they don't use GUIs and have Vim set to green-on-black. I'd like to know what code you fucks actually write.

>>23
Taste and style is a waste of resources. The web only needs text and paragraphs.
http://stallman.org/

Depends on what you're doing.
People all too often fall into the ``one tool for every job'' mentality.
vim is really nice when you get used to it though.

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Christ rimmis when are you going to learn how to use a web browser?

>>26
top lel

>>26
That's hilarious.
Why does he do this shit? Paranoia?

>>26
That's hilarious.
Why does he do this shit? Paranoia?

>>28,29
Well the captcha is borked.
I only typed it in once yet somehow double posted.

>>28
Paranoia and autism. rms browses web pages by fetching them through wget instead of using a web browser like a normal person. I'm sure he lives inside emacs.

I don't know why he doesn't write the posting scripts himself.

>>31
He probably doesn't care to learn about the technicals of posting to the web. I'm sure there's some CL library that'll make this job easy to write.

>>24



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>>33
I am looking for dubs

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