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Stallman on CISPA

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 17:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkURdh1TB8
Notes:
Hacking is playful cleverness
Happy hacking!

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 17:43

play cleverly with my anus

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 18:29

RT
"RussiaToday" is an Israeli propaganda shill, half-covertly advocating relaxation of regulations and monitoring. Look what happened when government relaxed it's anti-terrorist measures: two russian ("chechen") terrorist blown a pressure-cooker, while piracy and open source damage US economics, so that millions of Americans will lose jobs.

Moreover, if Government relaxes trade regulations, American market would be flooded with foreign products, killing vital parts of industry, so if war with China happens, America would be defeated in a week.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 18:36

>>3
And the only viable thing America has is Hollywood, which is Jew owned, so when Chinese army invades, Hollywood will be making defeatist movies, advocating surrender (like Jews did in Germany during WW1).

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 19:01

>>3
0/10

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 19:19

>>5
Shalom, Hymie! Have you ate from your foot today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 19:20

>>6
Eaten

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 19:33

>>6
1/10

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 19:47

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 19:57

>>9

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LISP is a mental attitude rather than a programming language. It uses a certain process of the mind expressed spontaneously through keyboard. I'm concerned with retaining that process.

LISP is an open-ended programming language for open minds.

Anyone can learn Lisp in a few minutes, but nobody could master lisping in a thousand years.

It bugs me when people try to analyze Lisp as a mathematical theorem. It's not. It's feeling.

Lisp, for me, has always been a place where anything is possible--a refuge, a magical world where anyone can go, where all kinds of people can come together, and anything can happen. We are limited only by our imagination.

I hate static languages. I have to change language to my own way of doing it. That's all I know.

One thing I like about Lisp, kid, is that I don't know what's going to happen next. Do you?

The whole thing of programming LISP is not to control it but to be swept away by it. If you're swept away by it you can't wait to do it again and the same magical moments always come.

My own feelings about the direction in which LISP should go are that there should be much less stress on static exhibitionism and much more on dynamic content, on what might be termed humanity in programming and the freedom to express all that you want.

Not to deny that LISP is a thinking people's programming language, but when I'm lisping if I ever catch myself thinking, I'm in trouble--I know something is wrong.

Lispness is not a state of mind, It's a fact of life!

Surrender your whole being to LISP, and gravity disappears...with few macros, one could write code as deep as the ocean.

Macros are to Lisp what yeast is to bread--without it, it's flat.

Recursion is the ability to talk to oneself.

Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

Lisp is your own experience, your thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your REPL.

It is becoming increasingly difficult to decide where LISP starts or where it ends, or even where the borderline lies between between programming in general and LISP. I feel there is no boundary line.

LISP is what we need when other languages fail us, but we cannot remain silent.

"Lisp" stands for "Lisp Is Syntactically Pure"

If it ain't Lisp, it's crap.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 20:04

>>10
It bugs me when people try to analyze Lisp as a mathematical theorem. It's not. It's feeling.
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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-26 21:45

HAVE YOU READ YOUR SICPA TODAY?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-27 0:45



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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-27 8:22

cute, but not the official definition:
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/hacker?q=hacker

He should have said: "I am techinically a hacker, by the definition which means improver of a system. Not a computer cracker, which breaks into computer systems."

Still, the discussion (propaganda really) should have gone like this:
Q1a: What is the fear about cispa?
A1a: What fear? Could you expand on that? Or do you mean the effects this law creates if passed and excuted, and the concerns US citizens have? (I will expand on A1b)


Q1b: If its prime motive is to improve Cyber Security, which affects us all? [redunt comments to incite an ad hominem]
A1b: I do not assume it's prime objective is to improve the security of the Governing body, like the USA, or its subjects. By meerly collecting the data and storing it, that is a security risk in itself, for both the governance and its constituents. Who is to say the data are safe in their databases? I am not allowed to test how their facilities are secure, and copies will be used for any other means nice what is advertised it's purpose is about. It's motive, only Mike Rogers (R-MI) can answer that. The US today has a great tools they can use to legally investigate/acquire someones data for anything. It used to called a warrant, then later tools were added like: Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), the patriot, etc.. This one just says we can copy anything we want, at any whim at all by calling it "suspicios". And any ISP needs to gives the ability to do so. There is no recompensation for any damages of our copies make, including what we do with the data, so lick my boot.

Q2a: Is it necessary?
A2a:No, like I explained. There are tools in place already to legally and techinically defend both the contry's data, and the citizen. This law does neither.

Q2b. Is cyber security an huge issue, in an age where the internet is inseperable from so many people lives?
A2b: Only for those that depend on the internet, and that not have a security policy in place. Governments today and this law does not provide such services.

Q2c. Surely it doesn't offer a reasonable sacrifice [pointing out the thesis of the interview], in letting some hacker have your data, worse than in the government's?
A2c: Not this law. For security, I go to my security department, or a local security advisory institution. I rather trust on things I can evalute myself, and proven to be secure. If we are talking about the government, they have their own networks untouchable by our Internet|ARPANET. Examples of that include but not limited to: NIPRNet, SIPRNET, and JWICS.

Q3a: So what to do about it now?
A3a: Nothing, NSA and the FBI do a great job under the Patriot Act to legally copy eveverything for US ``security''. They do not need this law to ``protect'' themselves or their ``citizens.''
Q3b: Should other countried intervene, to protect their personal data?
A3b: To prevent passing this law? No, unless you are asking for treaties to be broken. Governments should already be protecting their own data regardless if this was ever conceived or not. I mean, are not all developed countries in state of deterrence?

Q4:We have seen real rash of legislation, why is all happening now?
Corporate interest? I dunno. Is there really a reason to have any governing body massively collect ALL kings of Data and use it for whoever knows what? I think Mike Rogers should be able to anwser that, not me. Actually here is a good question, why was I chosen for this interview, when you know full well my profession is Computer Programming, not Law, and in the particular field of computer technology or security. I think an EFF member might have been a better choice.

You are welcome to copypasta on youtube and elsewhere

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-27 20:44

>>8
No, my friend. No trolling. If government removes regulations, China will strike by issuing private money to kill dollar:
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939

these money will impede tax collection and destroy America in no time, while well regulated Chinese economic and internet will prevail. Chinese won't allow Bitcoins, while America drinks them like poison.

I'm pretty sure, Bitcoins were conceived by China, Russia or Arabian countries to attack America.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-27 20:47

>>15
So Stallman sold America for a Lemote.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-28 19:36

>>15
If you haven't realized by now, the US Fed's policy is quantative easing to prevent a depression. This means that they're actively debasing the USD value. The way the system works, it is impossible for the US people to repay their obligations to the US Fed. This means the system is designed to eventually fail in a big collapse at the event when people finally refuse to accept the USD. The issue now is how much risk will the world accept before this collapse. Speculation about anti-US conspiracies are irrelevant when the masters of the Fed conspire to leech off the US's wealth.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-28 19:51

>>17
Depression cycles are well known and were described already by Karl Marx. They are inseparable part of money->commodity->money economy, so can't make economy running without inflation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cycle)

It is just that liberal country with unregulated economy and Internet becomes very vulnerable in the time of crisis, so every one will strike America, and even the superior army could fail.

And Stallman tries to sabotage American preparations.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-28 21:27

>>18
The US government wants to snoop on their citizen's communication for the stated aim of investigating cyber threats and ensure the security of networks against cyberattacks. RMS is advocating for respect towards the privacy of innocent citizens (US residents are innocent until proven guilty). RMS is advocating for government accountability. This CISPA bill gives the government power without accountability.

What I want to know is how you believe how tools that can protect privacy (pseudononymous BTC transactions) will cause a bigger dent in the value of USD than what the Feds are already causing? It's obvious that the US government doesn't care to repay its obligations to its citizens so you can't tell me that failing to pay taxes will hurt the government. The tax revenue received can only fund the interest due for ursury and not for the principle of the debt. I'm not advocating for tax evasion, I'm questioning why you believe the US government is funded with taxes when they do not care to change their hopeless situation caused by the Fed.

I know that the Chinese do not want to damage its economic relationship with its biggest trading partner as they already hold a significant portion of US government debt and can use it to threaten the US. IMO, if the Chinese started playing games to destabilize the US, that'd be like cutting off its nose to spite its face.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-28 21:52

>>19
stated aim of investigating cyber threats and ensure the security of networks against cyberattacks.
That is a good aim, and the measurements proposed by CISPA could be used to protect America from bitcoins and equivalent economic attacks.

RMS is advocating for respect towards the privacy of innocent citizens (US residents are innocent until proven guilty).
When they are proven guilty, it would be too late to prevent the damage. But complete surveillance with a camera at every corner can prevent crime, just because you know, you're being watched.

What I want to know is how you believe how tools that can protect privacy (pseudononymous BTC transactions) will cause a bigger dent in the value of USD
Bitcoins impede tax collection and indulge various criminal activity, so Chinese government could easily transfer large amount to hitmen, which in case of war or revolution would quickly hit vital persons (i.e. defense industry CEOs), impeding decision-making capability of America.

I know that the Chinese do not want to damage its economic relationship with its biggest trading partner as they already hold a significant portion of US government debt and can use it to threaten the US.
America still has the strongest army and capable of invading other countries, without China's consent. Besides, in diplomacy any weakness (including unregulated Internet) could be used as an argument in negotiations: i.e. China can point your weaknesses and force you to do like they say.

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