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What do you disagree with /prog/ about?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 11:46

Is SICP overrated? Do you think FIOC is a good idea?

Let's hear some differing opinions!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 11:47

Do you think FIOC is a good idea?
Perhaps as a command shell, but not much else in the way of general-purpose computing.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 11:53

I use FIOC for quick and dirty tasks such as mail/IRC bots.

I think Jews are an interesting bunch.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 11:54

>>2
from subprocess import call
call(["ls", "-l"])

Yeah.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 11:54

Does TCL get enough love? Probably not!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 11:56

I find /fag/'s ironic-but-probably-not sexism tireless at times.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 11:58

I'm a determinist, but some /frog/riders (and half the world) don't agree with me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:06

The FIOC makes code look cleaner. I dislike
[code]
        }
    }
}
[code]

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:07

>>4
Symta: http://minus.com/lbbORduhBFRcY9


Python:

from subprocess import call
call(["ls", "-l"])

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:08

>>9
I love Symta! I love your posts! PLEASE DOCUMENT SYMTA!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:09

>>9
If you're an antisemite NEET, why the fuck do you have a Mac?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:11

>>9
Do you have a website or github or anything?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:12

>>11
Apple looks less Jewish than Microsoft.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:14

>>4
What I meant to say is the syntax itself would be fitting for such a task, not using it as a command shell as it is.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:18

>>13
Are you serious? The JEWS dominate the stock market and Apple has always been strong at it. Also, usury is something only JEWS do.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=aapl+msft

And what do you think about hipsters? You think it's a goyim trend made to overthrow the JEWS? No, it's the other way around, they want to destroy the Western culture by giving us products that make us homosexual hipsters.

Please think before you speak and don't call yourself a true antisemite until you realize who's the JEW, Sadkovsky-kun.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:19

>>12
No because he says Github is run by JEWS. At least give Bitbucket a try, Nikita.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:20

>>13
So just use BSD.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:23

>>15
Steve Ballmer was born in Detroit, Michigan to Jewish American mother. To quote Ballmer: "Microsoft is as much an Israeli company as an American company. We intend to continue to invest in Israel." Microsoft tends to downplay its contribution to Israel for fear of an Arab backlash.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:27

>>17
FreeBSD has no Photoshop, OpenGL and even Skype is broken. Hardware support is lacking at best.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:32

>>19
Also,
http://www.sbcl.org/platform-table.html
FreeBSD binaries are outdated and I'm pretty sure build process will fail too, due to some gcc or unistd.h incompatibility.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:32

>>19
I hate the Jews -> Gotta give them all my gold for their software!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:32

>>18
Steven Paul Jobs was born in San Francisco on February 24, 1955 to two university students, Joanne Carole Schieble, of Swiss Catholic descent, and Syrian-born Abdulfattah "John" Jandali (Arabic: عبدالفتاح جندلي‎)
I understand now, NikitBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:34

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:35

>>21
I use pirated Photoshop to edit Warcraft 2 sprite sheets, because GIMP is too slow and glitchy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:38

>>23
Linux
wine
software rendering

No thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:38

>>24
Why would you use Photoshop when Paint.NET is far superior for such tasks?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:39

>>24
The fuck are you doing using any photo editing software to fuck about with stolen pixel art?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:40

>>13
And yet you insist on using a computer made with Israeli processors designed by the JEWS. You might as well be paying your tithe to your local Synagogue.

You must trash that computer immediately and run to buy a legitimate Lemote computer, made by the hardworking people of the Orient, running untainted, Aryan (which you aren't, you piece of shit East-Baltic untermensch) OpenBSD.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:41

>>25
Linux
That's Skype's fault. Stop using such shitty software.

wine
That's Adobe's fault. Stop using such shitty software.

software rendering
I'm not sure where you're getting that from. The OpenGL link I posted isn't about software rendering.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:42

JEWS

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:46

>>26
Photoshop has
1. Good 8-bit image editing support
2. Transform->Warp
3. Snap to grid
4. Fast with large images (10000x10000)

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:50

>>29
>The OpenGL link I posted isn't about software rendering.
cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver
make config
make install clean
No, Dad NO!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:52

>>31
You're doing pixel art, you don't need any of that. Make an MS Paint clone in that shit language of yours and get done with it. Here, I'll give you some code to get started with:

yoba=*&^%$^&*UYT#R^&*&^%$%^&^$%#$^&TREW%^&*&^%^*(&^%#$UYT$%^&U(I(O*U(*&**()(*&^[][][][][]^#%W$@

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:53

>>31
Oh yeah, I forgot all those 10000x10000px images that games use!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:54

"There are currently no plans to support CUDA/OpenCL on FreeBSD, although the runtime components (i.e. not the SDKs) may be ported at some point."


sorry, kids, no realtime raytraced glass sphere caustics with Linux. Only Apache, PHP and MySQL.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:56

>>35
What does that have to do with your shitty RPG full of smudged stolen pixel art?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 12:56

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 13:08

>>37
Wow, that looks manageable.
Did you render this yourself?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 13:17

>>38
No. It's badly rendered.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 13:43

>>36
Linux/FreeBSD has other big disadvantage: it's GUI uses C++, which is this ugly and math-heavy language with template classes like in Haskell. MacOSX uses Objective-C, which is a lot easier to integrate with Common Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 13:53

>>40
That's as false as your status as a true Russian, Sadkovich. Both GTK+ and X.org are written in C, and nevertheless, I can't imagine why would you prefer to interface with such technology rather than follow the style of Russian eminence Alexander Stepanov.

Why must you subject yourself to American-JEWish interests so eagerly, Mr. Sadkovich?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 13:56

>>1
that javascript really IS the future of cs

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 13:57

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:03

>>39
Wait, so you did? Or not?
>>40
It's true, Linux/FreeBSD is one thing and it only has one GUI.

Jesus christ, guy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:03

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:04

>>41
GTK+ is fugly and non-portable, so most distantly serious software uses Qt/KDE, which is seppless:
http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/GTK_vs_Qt#Portability

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:28

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:30

Sad子ーちゃん~

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:31

>>47
He was an adventurer, merchant and gusli musician from Novgorod.
Shalom, hymie! Shalom, hymie! Biggest Shalom to the biggest kike of /prog/: Nikita Sadko(v(sky)).

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:59

>>49
implying goyim have no merchants.
nice fallacy, Hymie.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 16:18

>>50
implying
Back to the ima/g/eboards, please.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 16:36

>>50
Weren't Russia's musicians all JEWS? And this totem[1] of the Sadkov family was a musician and a merchant.

Shalom, Sadkovski!

References:
_________________________________________________
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totem

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:04

>>52
All modern Russian musicians, like Schnittke or Shostakovich, are Jews.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:24

>>53
Don't forget Pussy Riot!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:24

All Russians are Jews.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:30

RIOT MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:57

>>54
Yeah. I wonder why Wiki fails to mention their Jewish ancestry...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pussy_Riot#Antisemitism.3F

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 18:16

Is SICP overrated?
It's a fairly good reference, but there are other good ones as well which aren't frequently mentioned on here.

Do you think FIOC is a good idea?
Nope. I like S-Expressions. Would be kewl if people used them for everything, from web documents to source code.

I guess I agree that FIOC is shit and SICP is a good reference, but I disagree with some other things. For instance, I don't think smoking weed everyday is a good idea. I think it's more fun to smoke it every day for a short period in time then to take a break for a while. I find that helps me form an interesting perspective on life, and if I were to just smoke every single day for a long period in time, I think I'd get to the point where I wouldn't really gain anything from using it.

Oh, and although I guess it's just Nikita, I don't have anything against Jews. That's probably because I don't fall for silly, dogmatic ideologies that are based entirely on superstition. It's one thing to claim that the Zionist movement is evil, and another to try to claim that an entire race of people are.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 18:36

>>58
I don't fall for silly, dogmatic ideologies that are based entirely on superstition.
Tell that to racist Jews with their Yahweh.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 18:50

>>58
TimBL intentionally design HTML to not make use of S-exp because of (((((())))))

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:00

>>60
Yeah, now it's <<<<></><></></>>>. Big fucking difference.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:03

>>59
Nikita's the racist. He wastes so much of his time trying to figure out whether people have a Jewish ethnic background or not, then uses that to form an opinion about them.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:05

-pedophilia
-homosexuality
-cultural marxism

Name: 62 2013-03-12 19:07

>>59
Oh yeah, and Judaism is just about as stupid and prejudiced as many other religions. That doesn't mean everyone who's even slightly related to people who may have practiced it in the past is a nutcase.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:10

>>62
Jews ain't a race, there are international mafia.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:12

>>65
Cool story bro

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:14

>>65
There are international mafia? Such that there exists a three headed dragon with five anuses?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:24

>>67
Exist my anus

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:49

>>66
I'm not you bro, Chaim.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 20:48

>>63
You forgot
-racism
-genocide
-usury

Name: お爺さん 2013-03-12 21:08

>>1
1. Yes, but it is still a classic. A must read.
2. It never was. The language was spun out of sheer frustration from Guido not being able to read code with regular expressions. Because of that, he made a language of his own to force everyone to use one style of writing code. Think of it how Pascal was made, as a ``solution'' and _indoctrination_ to write code well. It had its merits on teaching proper grammar, and being conscience for the next reader, but to that point. That is why C and Scheme or Common Lisp will still beat the 2, because they were meant for actual practical programming and reading. All it depends on the user, you.

>>20
Try a lot harder:
http://www.freshports.org/lang/sbcl/

The wiki article has not updated:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sbcl

>>20,24,31
2013, can't into imageMagick, Cairo, or GD.

>>35
Thanks for all the help!

>>37
So Manex Visual Effects did not use FreeBSD to render all the 3D graphics for the Matrix movie⸮

>>65,67
It would be best to call them what they are, ruthless plutocracts.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 21:25

>>71
So Disney did not use PDP-10 to render all the 3D graphics for the Tron movie⸮

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-12 22:02

>>72
Tron != 3d, but 2d shading techniques. Also parallel servers were used, to use all 5Ds (++time, ++frame_shot). Try harder, Technicolor.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 0:20

>>9
Even Perl can't make it any terser than that.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 1:34

>>73
Tron's graphics were true 3D. MAGI, one of the companies hired to do the rendering (which used computers other than the famous SuperFoonly F-1), employed a bunch of scientists and wrote the first ray-tracer program, largely to do Tron.

Many of their parts, such as the light cycles, use the full Phong reflection model, which had been invented in 1973, almost a full decade before Tron hit theatres.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 1:39

>>58

It's a fairly good reference, but there are other good ones as well which aren't frequently mentioned on here.


Which ones?

Please, tell me!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 3:37

>>33
gale is a good pixel art editor. its free version cannot do animated gifs though so you may need to pirate it (or pay to japanese jewu)
http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 7:30

>>77
Windows
No, thanks. I don't like Jews. If I had a choice, I would had purchased an ARM or MIPS PC.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 7:33

>>78
Man, a MIPS desktop would be great, but I really can't afford a Lemote right now, and I'd really just rather have the performance, even if it's in the form of the clusterfuck that is PC architecture.
ARM desktops are inevitable though. We're gonna be seeing 20+ core ARMv8 workstations in the next 5 years. It'll be fantastic.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 7:39

>>76
TAPL, RWH,...

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 7:49

>>75
than the famous SuperFoonly F-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foonly
the machines shipped as wire-wrapped engineering prototypes requiring individual attention from more than usually competent site personnel, and thus had significant reliability problems. Poole's legendary temper and unwillingness to suffer fools gladly did not help matters.

lol. that is why BSD/Linux has failed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 8:10

>>81
the console computer was replaced by an IBM PC running an application developed using Pascal. Interface boards were developed by myself that brought the total boot time from 15 mins to under 10 seconds. The old console computers were LISP derivatives that took forever to load. LISP was an artificial intelligence language that was not bad for a lab environment, but a nightmare for the market environment. I worked with Dave Poole for 4 years, and I have to admit he is very intelligent, was not a pleasant experience.

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