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The more hardware gets faster (not better)

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 0:12

The worse software will get.


the only thing we can do is sabotage

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 0:19

This is why I'm creating my own CPU architecture. Haskell-based with hardware-level lambdas and GC. Lazy thunks and arbitrary-precision numbers are primitive data types. Everything will compile to Haskell, including a garbage-collected C implementation.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 0:27

>>2
Haskell-based
FUCK OFF

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 0:32

>>2
Please go into more detail.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 0:57

Processor time is much less valuable than developer time, so this is a good thing.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 2:58

>>2
Make it Symta based and port Sparrow On Symta OS to it and you will have the CPU of the future.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 3:27

>>2
Garbage collection in C is easy: throw C away and you'll have no garbage.

(This method is patented though)

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2013-03-11 4:37

CPUs will not be getting much faster soon...

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 4:51

>>8


New physical models of computation are emerging. Current ideas will be obsolete.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 5:23

>>9
Like parallel quanta computing?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 5:53

>>10

Jacking hunderds of cores on a board, asynchronous processors, optical processors, biological computers, revival of analog computers for specific computations.

Quantum will take more time.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 5:56

http://blogs.voanews.com/science-world/2013/03/08/rats-communicate-brain-to-brain/

“So, even though the animals were on different continents, with the resulting noisy transmission and signal delays, they could still communicate,” said Miguel Pais-Vieira, a postdoctoral fellow and author of the study. “This tells us that it could be possible to create a workable, network of animal brains distributed in many different locations.”

This is also a computer. There are a lot of things that compute.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 7:10

>>11
So many tasks are not CPU bound but IO bound, either through transferring data through the different memory locations or through a computer network.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 12:38

>>5
Bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 12:51

>>14
Bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 13:21

>>15
Here is progsql, it uses bubblesort and took pretty much no time at all to implement, actually it's just a wrapper around /prog/, but since it took about no time at all of developer time, it follows that it will bring you great revenue, more so than MSSQL Server, presuming the programmers got paid writing it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 13:24

>>16
Someone will argue "oh but my ruby on rails/fioc/java(shit)/php library already implemented quicksort XD" or something like that. Be prepared.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 13:48

>>1
the only thing we can do is sabotage
I don't know about you, but myself, I can masturbate instead.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 18:44

>>14
$500 in extra eletricity bills vs. $20000 extra in developer time. Yes, paying the developers more is clearly the cost effective way to go.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 13:26

>>14
Thank you retard, you're the reason 99% of software is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-13 18:35

>>5
Depends on what you want to process.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 1:43

>>12
Just because a thing can compute does not make it a computer.
The human brain is a good example of something that is beyond being simply just a computer.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 1:47

>>22
If it's turing complete, then it's a computer.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 2:06

>>23
no

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 4:29

>>22

No, it is a bad example. Brains are extremely dependent on input and output. They have limited memory. And they can be programmed. They can compute. The can simulate their physical environment in a crude way. Some brains feature parallel personalities.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 4:44

>>22
I bet you believe in souls.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 5:26

>>26

I will wait for you by the gates of hell.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 5:37

>>27
I bet you believe in hell.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 5:47

>>28

You don't need to believe to burn.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 6:15

>>25
Yeah yeah reductionist nihilist shill.
Shalom, James Holmes (a neuroscientist studnent and nihilist murderer scum)

May He Rot

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 6:16

>>26
Science-fan detected.

I bet you think pinker is a genius and GEB is one of the best books of all time

le edgy new atheist face

MUH "FREETHOUGHT"

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 7:38

>>30

Proof that you have a soul.

I cannot. But that is silly.


Ok, then proof you have free will empirically.

Oh dear. I can't.

Have you heard of occam's razor?

Yes, now I see. So free will and a soul are unnecessary assumptions. I should chose the more elegant theory with the least assumptions. Thank you for educating me, master-san. May I suck your dick now?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 9:12

>>31
You are fucking retarded.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 9:13

>>32
Of course we have free will. People choose goals and choose daily decisions to reach that goal. Many people fail and choose smaller goals because they don't care to pay the price needed for big goals. Others choose little goals and wonder why they live a boring and meaningless life.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 9:38

>>33
MUH
Self-evident, really.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 9:47

>>34
lol wut

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 9:51

>>34
"Anyone could achieve anything if they just tried their hardest!"
Is this what you're saying?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 10:34

>>37
No, I'm saying that we can choose many parts of our lives, we have free will. Just because we have a will doesn't change our biology or environmental status. For example, I will not be part of the Bin Laden family no matter how I wish, I could possibly become a friend or confidant but never a family member. No amount of training or will power will ever cause me to become a gold medalist in Olympic sprinting, there are others with muscular genes that'll always outperform mine given equal training and motivation. I cannot change the fractional banking system no matter how influential and wealthy I become, the system is far too entrenched for me to do it personally.

People can achieve many things given the right will and the right system. It is only through action that things are done and people won't act without the will to do so. The point is about will, we have will and a life and many choose to live a life of mediocrity and then complain about living a mediocre life on crutches.

For me, I have chosen a life that benefits myself, my local and greater community as well as the land that we occupy. I haven't reached that goal but I am certainly on the way there.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 10:44

Free will is a social construct.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 10:45

>>38

Go suck some Jew dick Nikita.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 10:51

>>38
I will not be part of the Bin Laden family no matter how I wish
If you name yourself "Bin Laden", then you will be a part of Bin Laden family.


Given enough energy you can transform even shit into gold, while physical matter is just 0 and 1 bits, which can take any given form.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 11:31

>>38
I haven't reached that goal but I am certainly on the way there.
Hahaha.. AHAHAHAHAHA. If you only knew what I know. All our labor and sweat is without reward. We're both inevitably doomed to a meaningless end.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 11:38

JEWS are a social construct.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 12:10

dubs are a social construct
also, check em

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 14:54

check 'em

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 14:55

>>45
intentionally failing dubz is le epik new meme now?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 17:39

>>42
Whether you believe you can or believe you can't, you're probably right - Henry Ford

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 18:33

>>42
Le highschooler just got done reading le camus.

why is it that only edgy young adult males believe such things?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 18:36

>>47
fuck henry ford
fuck edison
tesla okay but he is a fatty hater and most likely racist

fuckin 19th and 20th century people are cunts

I am glad we live in a Modern Liberal Age

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 18:42

>>49
Excellent reasons there chief, I totally agree with you, random internet person over people who accomplish things.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 18:47

>>49
tesla okay but he is a fatty hater
What's wrong with that? Are you a fatty?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 19:15

>>47
Hope is not a strategy. Luck is not a factor. Fear is not an option. - James Cameron

I genuinely believe I'm God. According to your reasoning, I am God. Bow down to me, foolish mortal.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 19:24

>>22
Alright, what would that something be? I'm all ears.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 19:35

>>53
I think he's referring to subjective experience, which is beyond computation.[1]
Too bad it's all reciprocal though; the computer thinks you're the soulless machine. Or that's what it would think if it were aware of such concepts.

[1] Try to localize yourself in an arbitrary cellular automaton. See what I mean?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 19:38

Oh cool I have the same initials as James Cameron. - Jesus Christ

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 21:05

>>53
a highly complex group of self-sustaining chemical reactions..?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 22:24

>>52
You're missing the point which is free will. Having a will doesn't necessarily mean that one can change one's biology or overall environment. What it does mean is that we can choose goals and find ways to achieve them. I cannot grow myself a third arm, I can study biology and robotics for the goal of building a third arm. I cannot stop a two tonne car by my strength, I can train to pull a bus to a given standard. I cannot stop earthquakes from occurring but I can invest research money into geographical studies and engineering technologies so that buildings can better survive them when they occur.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 23:20

>>29

Yeah, well you don't need to believe in my demigod in order to be fucked in the ass by him for eternity, but don't worry, you'll enjoy it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 23:37

>>54
>I think he's referring to subjective experience, which is beyond computation.[1]
Give a reasonable definition of subjective experience so that there may be a logical connection to computation. Then we can ask if it is beyond or not.

Too bad it's all reciprocal though; the computer thinks you're the soulless machine. Or that's what it would think if it were aware of such concepts.
At present day technology, we can understand the schematics of our machines and be reasonably certain that they are not aware of concepts. But then consider a chaotic FPGA with a microphone input that has been reassembling itself over thousands of years. Even if you had access to its schematics, its design would not be humanly comprehensible, and you would not know its designed purpose. So you could not be sure that it doesn't have a process that is equivalent to us understanding concepts.

Try to localize yourself in an arbitrary cellular automaton. See what I mean?
Quines can do it. They can do it better than I can, actually.
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