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Name: Anonymous 2012-12-29 18:31

Let's go, /prog/.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-29 18:57

More like anything goes MEGADEAD

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-29 19:00

More like anything goes ⚡MEGADEATH⚡

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-29 19:05

More like /prog/'s least shit thread today

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 1:06

I'll make sure it doesn't die either. This will be our legacy

Name: Mentifex 2012-12-30 2:06

http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/mindforth.txt

can now engage you in intelligent discussion using

http://code.google.com/p/mindforth/wiki/InFerence

and can ask you a yes-or-no question in confirmation.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 14:34

>>6 why are you using shitty languages to program AI?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 14:55

Why the fuck are Linux fonts so ugly? I would be happy with just X's bitmaps for Helvetica, Times and Courier, but even those are ugly as fuck. Microsoft got that shit right twenty years ago, and you can't even get it right now?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 15:17

>>8 I use Arial for typographic shit, and:

Nimbus for Courier,
Liberation for Times New Roman,
and the standard Monospace for code.

Most of the stylistic fonts are there in most well-known distros, I'm using Ubuntu with Openbox and once you figure out what font is what, it's not so bad.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 15:28

because linux is shit and it's pointless to fix the fonts.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 15:47

>>10 elaborate

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 15:50

>>8
>Why the fuck are Linux fonts so ugly?

Patents. Apple and Microsoft both own patents on the best font rendering algorithms.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 16:18

I was fine with fonts until web fonts came along. Serif, sans-serif, monospace. Times, Helvetica, Courier (or Terminus).
But no, now Web pages are designed around being seen with a certain font at a certain size using anti-aliasing and subpixel rendering. Otherwise they look like shit.

Web typefaces should be ``semantic'', like print. This part is roman, this part is italic, etc. Fuck all this designing to be pixel perfect across browsers crap.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 16:28

Why the fuck are Linux fonts so ugly?

welcome to Linux, where everything is shit. please take a few weeks to try to fix all the problems you find.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 17:09

>>12
I stare at a mac all day and its fonts are horrible, especially at small sizes on a dark background. The whole point of Apple's retina display is to make the fonts tolerable. When you have to double your screen resolution to make your fonts look better then a netbook running Ubuntu, your rendering algorithm is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 17:43

>>12
I never understood what makes a font ugly or not. Is there any sort of objective metric to quantify the beauty of a font?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 17:47

Weird, I like Linux fonts. I see no difference.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-30 19:07

What do you guys think about the Microsoft Surface preventing Linux boots with UEFI SecureBoot? Do you think there will be a way around it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 0:40

sage

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 1:03

>>18
What do you think of back to slashdot?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 5:42

>>18
Terrible, but I'll be using my Yeeloong homemade Cubieboard laptop.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 6:58

>>21
are you the guy who wants to power his laptop with NiMH batteries?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 12:07

>>21
Your cubieboard sucks dick. go away.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 12:37

>>23
Compared to what? The raspberry pi? It mops the floor with it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 13:40

>>16
Obviously it's a matter of opinion but there are some solid rules of thumb about type design. For example, letters shouldn't run into each other. Read The Elements of Typographic Style.

On computers, good subpixel rendering algorithms are important (until computer monitors hit a higher PPI then we can forget about them). There's also ordinary anti-aliasing and hinting (which basically lines the curves up on a grid). Here's a nice article:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/TrueTypeHintingIntro.mspx

Text generally looks ugly on a default X setup because 1) you're not used to it, and 2) Microsoft and Apple have all the patents. Freetype supports various types of subpixel rendering and hinting, but they're generally not as attractive as their Windows/OS X counterparts. It's also a fucking mess and a nightmare to configure.
Fortunately, a few people have written patches to make Linux fonts look more like they do in Windows or OS X, or at least less shitty. A good one is Infinality:
http://www.infinality.net/

I really hope X dies soon and Freetype with it. I want Wayland with sensible font formats (i.e. not PostScript Type 1 and XLFDs), and a font configuration system that I don't need to learn an XML schema and software library to use properly.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 13:48

I've never understood why people complain so fucking much about fonts on Linux.

I have 20/20 vision and a Dell IPS panel and they look exactly the same to me on both OSes. Not sure if people don't know how to turn on full font hinting/antialiasing or what.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 16:18

>>25
What the fuck is so great about Wayland? Other than not being X, of course.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 16:49

>>27
The way I see it, Wayland is the way to remove all the legacy functions from the graphics system. X11 is far too chatty to be useful as a networked graphics system outside of a local LAN.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 17:05

>>26
On Linux my fonts are beautiful, but I think I might have sacrificed some freedom for them to be so.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 17:12

>>29
On Linux my fonts look exactly like they do on Windows, and I think they look fine (including corefonts, Adobe Fonts and other proprietary ``bullshites''). And DejaVu Sans is probably the best desktop font I've ever seen.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 19:08

Mersenne prime get

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 19:37

>>30
DejaVu Sans is too fat.

Also it has an oblique variant but not an italic variant, and for some reason even with 90-synthetic symlinked my Firefox switches from DejaVu Sans to DejaVu Serif Italic for italic text. Really distracting.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 21:31

fuck 'em

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 21:35

>>32
I like its roundness.

Yeah, the oblique thing really annoys me. I'd be almost sure that has to do with the roundness.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 21:39

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 23:15

drunk , its 4am ;   trying to sleep on a couch  . wish i had a computer,   just on my shitty  android at the moment.

computers are my friends .  why  did i even leave the house.. im  never socializing with  humans again .. just computers.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 23:19

>>36
see you at reddit, neurotypical fagshit

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 23:35

>>37
reddit  is   for  gays

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-31 23:42

>>35
I remember this game.

I liked Slowbeef's Let's Play of it (the screenshot one, not the video one).

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 1:17

>>39 how do you feel about the podcasts they've been doing? I rather like them

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